Unvaccinated Students & School Closures

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Anonymous wrote:why would middle and high schools close when there is a positive case? CDC guidance says vaccinated people don't have to quarantine when exposed. Send the unvaccinated home and let the sane, vaccinated students continue their education.

This is a DCPS policy.

That is a pre-vaccination policy. I don't believe DCPS has updated its policies for this school year. Still waiting for DOH to issue new guidance following the CDC new guidance.

Actually how would it work if there are different quarantine rules for the vaccinated and unvaccinated? One would have to disclose vaccination status, but that brings privacy concerns. So why not just lie if one is unvaccinated? Since we won't be able to know who is vaccinated or not, and given that some people will lie about being vaccinated, that means erring on the side of safety and making everyone quarantine.

Schools have been collecting student vaccination info since forever. There has never been privacy concerns about your school knowing you got your tdap booster at age 11. I dont see why covid vaccine info would be any different. If there is a covid outbreak in a school, unvaccinated students should quarantine away, obviously, for their health and safety. Vaccinated students shouldn’t have to worry.

Privacy concerns are among the teachers.

Honest question- do they not have to currently show the school (or the county etc) their proof of vaccination against communicable diseases? I work in health care and this is standard. If we can’t provide proof of vaccination since we don’t have our MMR shot record from 40 years ago, we get titers drawn. It’s a non issue.

I don't believe so, and it sounds like it is a big issue for them. Teachers are very concerned about their "individual medical records" being private.

It blows me away that teachers get to have concerns about reporting vaccinations to their employers, when presumably, they are fine with children having to have their vaccination statuses reported. Parents are required to fill out these long-ass health forms with all kinds of detail, and teachers are too concerned about having exactly one piece of information to report, related to the most overwhelming public health crisis in recent memory.

Be intellectually consistent, teachers. Either no one, including children, should ever have to report any health information to schools, or everyone should, including you.

Teachers don’t decide the policy for child vaccination.

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Anonymous wrote:why would middle and high schools close when there is a positive case? CDC guidance says vaccinated people don't have to quarantine when exposed. Send the unvaccinated home and let the sane, vaccinated students continue their education.

This is a DCPS policy.

That is a pre-vaccination policy. I don't believe DCPS has updated its policies for this school year. Still waiting for DOH to issue new guidance following the CDC new guidance.

Actually how would it work if there are different quarantine rules for the vaccinated and unvaccinated? One would have to disclose vaccination status, but that brings privacy concerns. So why not just lie if one is unvaccinated? Since we won't be able to know who is vaccinated or not, and given that some people will lie about being vaccinated, that means erring on the side of safety and making everyone quarantine.

Schools have been collecting student vaccination info since forever. There has never been privacy concerns about your school knowing you got your tdap booster at age 11. I dont see why covid vaccine info would be any different. If there is a covid outbreak in a school, unvaccinated students should quarantine away, obviously, for their health and safety. Vaccinated students shouldn’t have to worry.

Privacy concerns are among the teachers.

Honest question- do they not have to currently show the school (or the county etc) their proof of vaccination against communicable diseases? I work in health care and this is standard. If we can’t provide proof of vaccination since we don’t have our MMR shot record from 40 years ago, we get titers drawn. It’s a non issue.

I don't believe so, and it sounds like it is a big issue for them. Teachers are very concerned about their "individual medical records" being private.

It blows me away that teachers get to have concerns about reporting vaccinations to their employers, when presumably, they are fine with children having to have their vaccination statuses reported. Parents are required to fill out these long-ass health forms with all kinds of detail, and teachers are too concerned about having exactly one piece of information to report, related to the most overwhelming public health crisis in recent memory.

Be intellectually consistent, teachers. Either no one, including children, should ever have to report any health information to schools, or everyone should, including you.

We do submit all that information prior to being hired by dcps. The only hold up has been working with DCPS to aggregate the Covid vax information district wide

I hope that once DCPS and WTU come to some contract, then teachers will be willing to share their vaccination status, and at the very least we can know what percentage of them are vaccinated. Hopefully at the school level. Where individual teacher vaccination status becomes pertinent for school functioning (like for a quarantine), well....who knows.

[Anonymous]

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Be intellectually consistent, teachers. Either no one, including children, should ever have to report any health information to schools, or everyone should, including you.

Teachers don’t decide the policy for child vaccination.

Likely for next year I will opt out of having my children tested for covid at school. Because privacy.

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Be intellectually consistent, teachers. Either no one, including children, should ever have to report any health information to schools, or everyone should, including you.

Teachers don’t decide the policy for child vaccination.

Likely for next year I will opt out of having my children tested for covid at school. Because privacy.

I’m sure there will be lots of people who do this. I’m not shocked or surprised. I’m vaccinated and will wear a mask because I have small children at home. My assumption going in this year is there will be COVID in classes and we won’t know.

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Be intellectually consistent, teachers. Either no one, including children, should ever have to report any health information to schools, or everyone should, including you.

Teachers don’t decide the policy for child vaccination.

Likely for next year I will opt out of having my children tested for covid at school. Because privacy.

Is this like a spite thing? I can assure you teachers do not care whether or not your kid opts in. I had no clue which of my students had consented last year

[Anonymous]

An alternative to requiring students or teachers to disclose vax status is to create a policy that you need to wear a mask, and you need to quarantine after exposure, UNLESS you have shown proof of vaccination. Then no one is required to show this proof. But if you do show the proof then you have certain privileges.

[Anonymous]

6th grade is going to be hard this year with the mix of 11- and 12-year-olds.

[Anonymous]

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Be intellectually consistent, teachers. Either no one, including children, should ever have to report any health information to schools, or everyone should, including you.

Teachers don’t decide the policy for child vaccination.

Likely for next year I will opt out of having my children tested for covid at school. Because privacy.

That’s fine, my students families opted in but were never ‘randomly’ tested…even though there was only like 4 other classes at my school.

But you can bet your bottom dollar if your kid is sick and you send them they’ll spend their whole day in the isolation room.

[Anonymous]

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Be intellectually consistent, teachers. Either no one, including children, should ever have to report any health information to schools, or everyone should, including you.

Teachers don’t decide the policy for child vaccination.

Likely for next year I will opt out of having my children tested for covid at school. Because privacy.

Is this like a spite thing? I can assure you teachers do not care whether or not your kid opts in. I had no clue which of my students had consented last year

No. I just don't think DCPS manages my child's education well where it interacts with covid prevention. And I don't trust DCPS with this specific bit of personal data for my child. Having seen what happens to others when they have had false positives and the ensuing headaches and intrusion, I'll go my own way with this one.

[Anonymous]

I think the bottom line is don’t count on in-person learning without interruptions. There will be closures either on the team or grade level when kids test positive.

Also I’ve read epsilon can cause covid in vaccinated people. It’s only in CA right now but give it time.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the bottom line is don’t count on in-person learning without interruptions. There will be closures either on the team or grade level when kids test positive.

Also I’ve read epsilon can cause covid in vaccinated people. It’s only in CA right now but give it time.

..or when teachers or staff test positive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think the bottom line is don’t count on in-person learning without interruptions. There will be closures either on the team or grade level when kids test positive.

Also I’ve read epsilon can cause covid in vaccinated people. It’s only in CA right now but give it time.

We all know you can still get covid after vaccination. It's just the likelihood and the severity are decreased.

[Anonymous]

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Be intellectually consistent, teachers. Either no one, including children, should ever have to report any health information to schools, or everyone should, including you.

Teachers don’t decide the policy for child vaccination.

Likely for next year I will opt out of having my children tested for covid at school. Because privacy.

That’s fine, my students families opted in but were never ‘randomly’ tested…even though there was only like 4 other classes at my school.

But you can bet your bottom dollar if your kid is sick and you send them they’ll spend their whole day in the isolation room.

Ok. I'm not very concerned with that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:why would middle and high schools close when there is a positive case? CDC guidance says vaccinated people don't have to quarantine when exposed. Send the unvaccinated home and let the sane, vaccinated students continue their education.

This is a DCPS policy.

That is a pre-vaccination policy. I don't believe DCPS has updated its policies for this school year. Still waiting for DOH to issue new guidance following the CDC new guidance.

Actually how would it work if there are different quarantine rules for the vaccinated and unvaccinated? One would have to disclose vaccination status, but that brings privacy concerns. So why not just lie if one is unvaccinated? Since we won't be able to know who is vaccinated or not, and given that some people will lie about being vaccinated, that means erring on the side of safety and making everyone quarantine.

Schools have been collecting student vaccination info since forever. There has never been privacy concerns about your school knowing you got your tdap booster at age 11. I dont see why covid vaccine info would be any different. If there is a covid outbreak in a school, unvaccinated students should quarantine away, obviously, for their health and safety. Vaccinated students shouldn’t have to worry.

Privacy concerns are among the teachers.

Honest question- do they not have to currently show the school (or the county etc) their proof of vaccination against communicable diseases? I work in health care and this is standard. If we can’t provide proof of vaccination since we don’t have our MMR shot record from 40 years ago, we get titers drawn. It’s a non issue.

I don't believe so, and it sounds like it is a big issue for them. Teachers are very concerned about their "individual medical records" being private.

It blows me away that teachers get to have concerns about reporting vaccinations to their employers, when presumably, they are fine with children having to have their vaccination statuses reported. Parents are required to fill out these long-ass health forms with all kinds of detail, and teachers are too concerned about having exactly one piece of information to report, related to the most overwhelming public health crisis in recent memory.

Be intellectually consistent, teachers. Either no one, including children, should ever have to report any health information to schools, or everyone should, including you.

We do submit all that information prior to being hired by dcps. The only hold up has been working with DCPS to aggregate the Covid vax information district wide

we've seen plenty of teachers here complain about submitting "personal health records" i.e. covid vax status

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:An alternative to requiring students or teachers to disclose vax status is to create a policy that you need to wear a mask, and you need to quarantine after exposure, UNLESS you have shown proof of vaccination. Then no one is required to show this proof. But if you do show the proof then you have certain privileges.

That seems like a good solution. Although I can imagine a vaxxed teacher having a choice of doing the class all DL versus concurrent, and choosing DL (by not divulging vax status). Because concurrent seems like a teaching nightmare.