I hate a mean kid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My introvert DD picked up Epee fencing and no one at school dares to mess with her. The mean girls pick on shy kids in DD’s circle but always take 2 steps back when DD approaches. We are working with DD on standing up not only for herself but others in need.

Sorry OP that your kid may be in the same class next year. I never understood how these girls become so mean. One of those Hs a perfectly lovely mother who thinks the world of her DD. But that girl is just a miserable, two faced creature. I don’t get it.

Sorry this is not really central to this thread (fascinating discussion btw) but can I just ask how fencing makes a kid less prone to being bullied? Unless they have their swords with them??

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:True, it’s definitely not me, PP. I’m happy about that.

The thread just has gotten wild. I’m sorry it’s made people angry. I feel peaceful having gotten it out, and requesting the separation. The speculation and attempted burns on me and my kid, well, think what you will. Bless your hearts.

Now you that you have gotten it out and it has been hopefully solved, you continue to be mean and off putting. I understand how a 6 year old can behave this way, but you? An adult? Where is YOUR empathy? You should look in the mirror before judging a little girl. How petty that you call a little girl “ugly”. I bet your are pretty old, ugly and fat yourself.

I am team “mean girl” now

Nope, sorry. I am loving how ridiculous people like you believe you are Team Empathy. Keep it up, darling. You’ll get to a point!

This thread is a perfect of how toxic our culture has become. If the victim falls short of perfection you instantly blame her and take the bully’s side. This is no different than blaming a rape victim for wearing a short skirt or otherwise “asking for it.” Unfortunately, this attitude is asAmerican as apple pie.

I cannot believe you just compared this to rape. This is ridiculous. Nobody is “against” OP’s daughter. We feel horrible for her (possibly even worse because of the mom she has). I have issues with OP (not the victim). This OP is calling a girl (who was mean to her daughter… not even in unusual ways) ugly, horse face, etc.

Do you actually think THIS is normal? The “aggressor” is a 6 year old with shitty parents…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My introvert DD picked up Epee fencing and no one at school dares to mess with her. The mean girls pick on shy kids in DD’s circle but always take 2 steps back when DD approaches. We are working with DD on standing up not only for herself but others in need.

Sorry OP that your kid may be in the same class next year. I never understood how these girls become so mean. One of those Hs a perfectly lovely mother who thinks the world of her DD. But that girl is just a miserable, two faced creature. I don’t get it.

Sorry this is not really central to this thread (fascinating discussion btw) but can I just ask how fencing makes a kid less prone to being bullied? Unless they have their swords with them??

I am the PP. My DD has gain lots of confidence on the strip through the rigorous training. She is no longer feeling that she doesn't measure up. There are events in this sport where one gets to compete in a mixed gender, mixed age group scenario. DD has learned that even when she is up against someone bigger/stronger, she can use her technique to score. For a tween who was never the popular girl and who doesn't want attention, she simply carries herself differently now. There is a quite resilience and confidence to her these days. Her classmates think she is tough as nails and those mean girls leave her alone. DD is still an introvert and is unassuming.

We don't have experience with any other sports and wonder if being involved in these type of activities in general would help kids to gain confidence.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:True, it’s definitely not me, PP. I’m happy about that.

The thread just has gotten wild. I’m sorry it’s made people angry. I feel peaceful having gotten it out, and requesting the separation. The speculation and attempted burns on me and my kid, well, think what you will. Bless your hearts.

Now you that you have gotten it out and it has been hopefully solved, you continue to be mean and off putting. I understand how a 6 year old can behave this way, but you? An adult? Where is YOUR empathy? You should look in the mirror before judging a little girl. How petty that you call a little girl “ugly”. I bet your are pretty old, ugly and fat yourself.

I am team “mean girl” now

Nope, sorry. I am loving how ridiculous people like you believe you are Team Empathy. Keep it up, darling. You’ll get to a point!

This thread is a perfect of how toxic our culture has become. If the victim falls short of perfection you instantly blame her and take the bully’s side. This is no different than blaming a rape victim for wearing a short skirt or otherwise “asking for it.” Unfortunately, this attitude is asAmerican as apple pie.

The victim is the daughter, not OP. And she wasn’t blamed instantly- she was blamed when she went off on a tirade about the little girl being irredeemable at 6 years old. It seems likely the kid is bullying OPs daughter which is not ok. But this does not mean she is doomed to a life of having zero empathy and never having real friends.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:True, it’s definitely not me, PP. I’m happy about that.

The thread just has gotten wild. I’m sorry it’s made people angry. I feel peaceful having gotten it out, and requesting the separation. The speculation and attempted burns on me and my kid, well, think what you will. Bless your hearts.

Now you that you have gotten it out and it has been hopefully solved, you continue to be mean and off putting. I understand how a 6 year old can behave this way, but you? An adult? Where is YOUR empathy? You should look in the mirror before judging a little girl. How petty that you call a little girl “ugly”. I bet your are pretty old, ugly and fat yourself.

I am team “mean girl” now

Nope, sorry. I am loving how ridiculous people like you believe you are Team Empathy. Keep it up, darling. You’ll get to a point!

This thread is a perfect of how toxic our culture has become. If the victim falls short of perfection you instantly blame her and take the bully’s side. This is no different than blaming a rape victim for wearing a short skirt or otherwise “asking for it.” Unfortunately, this attitude is asAmerican as apple pie.

I cannot believe you just compared this to rape. This is ridiculous. Nobody is “against” OP’s daughter. We feel horrible for her (possibly even worse because of the mom she has). I have issues with OP (not the victim). This OP is calling a girl (who was mean to her daughter… not even in unusual ways) ugly, horse face, etc.

Do you actually think THIS is normal? The “aggressor” is a 6 year old with shitty parents…

Nah, I just read this thread and get what pp is saying. Posters are always trashing an OP for every little thing. Annoying AF. Team OP here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:True, it’s definitely not me, PP. I’m happy about that.

The thread just has gotten wild. I’m sorry it’s made people angry. I feel peaceful having gotten it out, and requesting the separation. The speculation and attempted burns on me and my kid, well, think what you will. Bless your hearts.

Now you that you have gotten it out and it has been hopefully solved, you continue to be mean and off putting. I understand how a 6 year old can behave this way, but you? An adult? Where is YOUR empathy? You should look in the mirror before judging a little girl. How petty that you call a little girl “ugly”. I bet your are pretty old, ugly and fat yourself.

I am team “mean girl” now

Nope, sorry. I am loving how ridiculous people like you believe you are Team Empathy. Keep it up, darling. You’ll get to a point!

This thread is a perfect of how toxic our culture has become. If the victim falls short of perfection you instantly blame her and take the bully’s side. This is no different than blaming a rape victim for wearing a short skirt or otherwise “asking for it.” Unfortunately, this attitude is asAmerican as apple pie.

I cannot believe you just compared this to rape. This is ridiculous. Nobody is “against” OP’s daughter. We feel horrible for her (possibly even worse because of the mom she has). I have issues with OP (not the victim). This OP is calling a girl (who was mean to her daughter… not even in unusual ways) ugly, horse face, etc.

Do you actually think THIS is normal? The “aggressor” is a 6 year old with shitty parents…

Nah, I just read this thread and get what pp is saying. Posters are always trashing an OP for every little thing. Annoying AF. Team OP here.

I'm on neither team. OP sounds like a complete B-I-C-H and the little girl doesn't so great herself. I'm kind of disgusted with how OP talks on here though abou this kid.

[Anonymous]

I’m not that word you cannot spell. There’s just absolutely no utility in backing down on that board. I posted that I was venting, and I did. Other non-saint moms confessed to having the same type of dark feelings and thoughts. I have not said this IRL to anyone, let alone the parents. I didn’t add repeatedly to my first posts. But once the pile-on starts and the marms come in to pretend their judgment trumps all and start with the shame, shame, shame nonsense kicks up, yes, I’m going to push back on it. Honestly, it’s almost fun.

[Anonymous]

(This board, not that board).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m not that word you cannot spell. There’s just absolutely no utility in backing down on that board. I posted that I was venting, and I did. Other non-saint moms confessed to having the same type of dark feelings and thoughts. I have not said this IRL to anyone, let alone the parents. I didn’t add repeatedly to my first posts. But once the pile-on starts and the marms come in to pretend their judgment trumps all and start with the shame, shame, shame nonsense kicks up, yes, I’m going to push back on it. Honestly, it’s almost fun.

OP, people felt bad because your daughter has SN. Nothing you mentioned on your original post (eye rolling, not waiting for DD to get up, not saying hi, etc) seemed so horrible to grant your hate towards a little girl. Had your girl been NT, people would have said that the (mean, ugly, horse faced, little s*it) girl did nothing really wrong. If your daughter is slow to climb, tell her to let the other kids go first or take her places that are emptier (or with younger kids).

Had you mentioned really horrible behavior, I would have been ok with your rant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m not that word you cannot spell. There’s just absolutely no utility in backing down on that board. I posted that I was venting, and I did. Other non-saint moms confessed to having the same type of dark feelings and thoughts. I have not said this IRL to anyone, let alone the parents. I didn’t add repeatedly to my first posts. But once the pile-on starts and the marms come in to pretend their judgment trumps all and start with the shame, shame, shame nonsense kicks up, yes, I’m going to push back on it. Honestly, it’s almost fun.

OP, people felt bad because your daughter has SN. Nothing you mentioned on your original post (eye rolling, not waiting for DD to get up, not saying hi, etc) seemed so horrible to grant your hate towards a little girl. Had your girl been NT, people would have said that the (mean, ugly, horse faced, little s*it) girl did nothing really wrong. If your daughter is slow to climb, tell her to let the other kids go first or take her places that are emptier (or with younger kids).

Had you mentioned really horrible behavior, I would have been ok with your rant.

She wasn’t “slow to climb,” as far as an issue but I agree with you about that. The bully told other kids DD should be called “the kid who can’t keep up” and for no one to play with her. She hit her twice, successfully shoved her hard off something where DD got a bad bruise, and swatted at her from above while laughing at her. In our pod, she led the others (small group) to laugh at her during their mini-talent show. The girl did the same as far as playground crap to kids in a younger class who have IEPs for a suite of reasons (mine doesn’t have them) because her class and theirs share the grounds, with Covid scheduling. Anyway. A lot of this brings up awful memories for me, as I found out from an assistant teacher way after the fact, after entertaining the parents during our last play date where the dad boasted about his girls radar for only wanting to play with cool kids and how she’d repeatedly ignore kids in playgrounds who asked to play.

I don’t understand why OPs have to case-build on this site or else get swarmed. “Well you didn’t plead with enough specificity,” yeah ok. Your mileage may vary but I see it all the time here. Tiresome. I am totally fine with my opinions, and had I known earlier some of what I only determined after the fact, I would have stopped it and stepped in with a quickness. Life’s too short and my kid is too precious to us. (And I’m still good with my rant. Never fear.)

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m not that word you cannot spell. There’s just absolutely no utility in backing down on that board. I posted that I was venting, and I did. Other non-saint moms confessed to having the same type of dark feelings and thoughts. I have not said this IRL to anyone, let alone the parents. I didn’t add repeatedly to my first posts. But once the pile-on starts and the marms come in to pretend their judgment trumps all and start with the shame, shame, shame nonsense kicks up, yes, I’m going to push back on it. Honestly, it’s almost fun.

OP, people felt bad because your daughter has SN. Nothing you mentioned on your original post (eye rolling, not waiting for DD to get up, not saying hi, etc) seemed so horrible to grant your hate towards a little girl. Had your girl been NT, people would have said that the (mean, ugly, horse faced, little s*it) girl did nothing really wrong. If your daughter is slow to climb, tell her to let the other kids go first or take her places that are emptier (or with younger kids).

Had you mentioned really horrible behavior, I would have been ok with your rant.

She wasn’t “slow to climb,” as far as an issue but I agree with you about that. The bully told other kids DD should be called “the kid who can’t keep up” and for no one to play with her. She hit her twice, successfully shoved her hard off something where DD got a bad bruise, and swatted at her from above while laughing at her. In our pod, she led the others (small group) to laugh at her during their mini-talent show. The girl did the same as far as playground crap to kids in a younger class who have IEPs for a suite of reasons (mine doesn’t have them) because her class and theirs share the grounds, with Covid scheduling. Anyway. A lot of this brings up awful memories for me, as I found out from an assistant teacher way after the fact, after entertaining the parents during our last play date where the dad boasted about his girls radar for only wanting to play with cool kids and how she’d repeatedly ignore kids in playgrounds who asked to play.

I don’t understand why OPs have to case-build on this site or else get swarmed. “Well you didn’t plead with enough specificity,” yeah ok. Your mileage may vary but I see it all the time here. Tiresome. I am totally fine with my opinions, and had I known earlier some of what I only determined after the fact, I would have stopped it and stepped in with a quickness. Life’s too short and my kid is too precious to us. (And I’m still good with my rant. Never fear.)

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Why did you write on DCUM? I thought you needed validation for your feelings. If you just needed to write it out, you could have done so and never hit “send”. You wanted validation, I am sure about it.

What you described in this post is pretty bad and I would feel very upset if I were you. This is nit at all what you described in your OP… especially the physical parts.

I think I am a pretty rational person, but I would be furious if the “mean” girl hit my daughter or told other kids to call her something. I don’t understand why you would not talk to the girl’s parents about all of this. I don’t understand why the teachers wouldn’t do something about it. The girl has serious issues and it’s important they get addressed eighth away.

Good luck next year… I hope you e daughter will be surrounded by kinder children

[Anonymous]

PP, honestly, you’re doing the most.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m not that word you cannot spell. There’s just absolutely no utility in backing down on that board. I posted that I was venting, and I did. Other non-saint moms confessed to having the same type of dark feelings and thoughts. I have not said this IRL to anyone, let alone the parents. I didn’t add repeatedly to my first posts. But once the pile-on starts and the marms come in to pretend their judgment trumps all and start with the shame, shame, shame nonsense kicks up, yes, I’m going to push back on it. Honestly, it’s almost fun.

OP, people felt bad because your daughter has SN. Nothing you mentioned on your original post (eye rolling, not waiting for DD to get up, not saying hi, etc) seemed so horrible to grant your hate towards a little girl. Had your girl been NT, people would have said that the (mean, ugly, horse faced, little s*it) girl did nothing really wrong. If your daughter is slow to climb, tell her to let the other kids go first or take her places that are emptier (or with younger kids).

Had you mentioned really horrible behavior, I would have been ok with your rant.

She wasn’t “slow to climb,” as far as an issue but I agree with you about that. The bully told other kids DD should be called “the kid who can’t keep up” and for no one to play with her. She hit her twice, successfully shoved her hard off something where DD got a bad bruise, and swatted at her from above while laughing at her. In our pod, she led the others (small group) to laugh at her during their mini-talent show. The girl did the same as far as playground crap to kids in a younger class who have IEPs for a suite of reasons (mine doesn’t have them) because her class and theirs share the grounds, with Covid scheduling. Anyway. A lot of this brings up awful memories for me, as I found out from an assistant teacher way after the fact, after entertaining the parents during our last play date where the dad boasted about his girls radar for only wanting to play with cool kids and how she’d repeatedly ignore kids in playgrounds who asked to play.

I don’t understand why OPs have to case-build on this site or else get swarmed. “Well you didn’t plead with enough specificity,” yeah ok. Your mileage may vary but I see it all the time here. Tiresome. I am totally fine with my opinions, and had I known earlier some of what I only determined after the fact, I would have stopped it and stepped in with a quickness. Life’s too short and my kid is too precious to us. (And I’m still good with my rant. Never fear.)

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Ah yes. Those “other kids” with SN that are so much worse than your kids. Please.