I hate a mean kid.

[Anonymous]

My daughter has some SNs related to motor skills and her former friend has noted that mine can’t climb on to the top of playground equipment, and has ignored her, mocked her, rolled her eyes at her, and otherwise been a bunch of words I can’t type here. My daughter seems to understand that she should not even say hi going forward, as the girl will gleefully greet their mutual friend and ignore her. I’m just venting because I hate that nasty kid so much. She is a terrible shit, and her “irony loving,” sarcastic, thinks-they’re-cool parents helped create that. I can’t say this IRL so I’m venting (with no purpose) here.

[Anonymous]

Does your daughter have to be around her for any reason? I think there's a value to kids having to toughen up, but no kid needs to be made fun of for a disability.

For me, please teach your daughter to punch and then have her punch the girl the next time she calls her a name. If the girl complains, your daughter can just say "Oh, I didn't know my arm would work that way. You should have ducked. Too slow!"

[Anonymous]

My son has some SNs as well and we just stay away from kids and their parents like this. There are nice kids and families out there. Find them. Steer clear of the meanies.

[Anonymous]

I get this OP.

When people are mean to my children, I have thoughts that are really just horrible.

There was a girl who just tortured my son in second grade. The mom was awful too. My son was so unhappy. I will get flamed for this, but the girl was clearly going to end up not being attractive and I took immense pleasure from this.

[Anonymous]

I feel you OP. It’s hard to take when the cool kids (children or adults) are actually much worse people than our SN kids. So much of NT social behavior is pathological despite being considered normal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does your daughter have to be around her for any reason? I think there's a value to kids having to toughen up, but no kid needs to be made fun of for a disability.

For me, please teach your daughter to punch and then have her punch the girl the next time she calls her a name. If the girl complains, your daughter can just say "Oh, I didn't know my arm would work that way. You should have ducked. Too slow!"

I’m worried they will be in the same class next year but otherwise nope, we’d sta faaaar away. The little shit is in speech therapy and her parents fancy her a tomboy because omg she likes Pokémon and climbing wow!! My DD likes Pokémon, works her butt off in pt and is learning resilience and how to stand up for herself, and is best friends with boys (including exceptionally athletic ones) and girls. To hell with that girl, forever. She doesn’t only lack empathy, my hand to god she will never develop it. I really do hate her and one of her parents in particular. And I’ll keep “too slow” in my back pocket too! TY

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does your daughter have to be around her for any reason? I think there's a value to kids having to toughen up, but no kid needs to be made fun of for a disability.

For me, please teach your daughter to punch and then have her punch the girl the next time she calls her a name. If the girl complains, your daughter can just say "Oh, I didn't know my arm would work that way. You should have ducked. Too slow!"

I’m worried they will be in the same class next year but otherwise nope, we’d sta faaaar away. The little shit is in speech therapy and her parents fancy her a tomboy because omg she likes Pokémon and climbing wow!! My DD likes Pokémon, works her butt off in pt and is learning resilience and how to stand up for herself, and is best friends with boys (including exceptionally athletic ones) and girls. To hell with that girl, forever. She doesn’t only lack empathy, my hand to god she will never develop it. I really do hate her and one of her parents in particular. And I’ll keep “too slow” in my back pocket too! TY

Okay, I was just going to read this thread and not comment until I read the above. Please be "that" mom and go to your school/principal and insist that you and this girl not be in a class together. Exaggerate the girl's effect on your DD if you need to. It doesn't matter if they've already made that classes for next year. I've had children in this scenario in elementary and I wish I could turn back time and do exactly what I'm telling you that you should do. Everything's okay now but those were tough years. Good luck!

[Anonymous]

God, I hear you! I have to remember that the mean kids are victims too - victims of bad parenting and self-esteem issues. When I talk to my son (smaller than the other boys and wears glasses but not SN) about the mean boys in his class, I always ask him what he thinks is wrong or broken in those boys that makes them act that way. We talk a lot about inclusion and being kind to them even though they are mean. We also talk about “reading the room” and knowing when to step away and ignore them.

It’s so hard. I really wanted to pull a “Hand That Rocks The Cradle” move an go twist one little boy’s arm and threaten him when he kept punching my son in preK. Instead we talked to the teacher, the principal and the boy’s parents along with continued conversations with my son.

[Anonymous]

My introvert DD picked up Epee fencing and no one at school dares to mess with her. The mean girls pick on shy kids in DD’s circle but always take 2 steps back when DD approaches. We are working with DD on standing up not only for herself but others in need.

Sorry OP that your kid may be in the same class next year. I never understood how these girls become so mean. One of those Hs a perfectly lovely mother who thinks the world of her DD. But that girl is just a miserable, two faced creature. I don’t get it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My daughter has some SNs related to motor skills and her former friend has noted that mine can’t climb on to the top of playground equipment, and has ignored her, mocked her, rolled her eyes at her, and otherwise been a bunch of words I can’t type here. My daughter seems to understand that she should not even say hi going forward, as the girl will gleefully greet their mutual friend and ignore her. I’m just venting because I hate that nasty kid so much. She is a terrible shit, and her “irony loving,” sarcastic, thinks-they’re-cool parents helped create that. I can’t say this IRL so I’m venting (with no purpose) here.

+1 to all of it, but especially the bolded.

We have "friends" we've known since before any of us had kids who are like this, and like this around their kids, and now that their kids are getting to be 6 or 7, their kids are also sarcastic and rude, and we no longer hang out with them at all because I don't want to be around any of it.

It is bizarre how many people view their kids as yet another cool accessory and not, you know, a person who they are responsible for turning into a worthwhile person. They'd rather cultivate their kid's musical taste or fashion sense than teach them kindness or tolerance. It's alarming to watch and you are wise to stay away, OP. I'm so sorry your daughter has to deal with someone like that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My introvert DD picked up Epee fencing and no one at school dares to mess with her. The mean girls pick on shy kids in DD’s circle but always take 2 steps back when DD approaches. We are working with DD on standing up not only for herself but others in need.

Sorry OP that your kid may be in the same class next year. I never understood how these girls become so mean. One of those Hs a perfectly lovely mother who thinks the world of her DD. But that girl is just a miserable, two faced creature. I don’t get it.

Op again. The father is extremely sardonic and sarcastic and clearly thinks I helicopter - the POS has no idea that I’ve been on the PT train and juggling multi week appointments for years., since DD was 6 months old. He is horrible and stuck up. The girl is smart, like mine, and a daredevil so she’ll probably be “cool” even though she’s a whining, horse faced, dead eyed and utterly cruel little b$!tch. The mom is a teacher at the school and in some level a good person and has fretted to me about her girl having empathy issues. Stupid me used to feel sympathy. I’m done. It’s obviously been an issue for years. Fck her.

I’m going to request no placement with her, I don’t need this and my kid sure as hell doesn’t. I’m just (clearly!) so mad but also repulsed. I don’t know what I believe about cruel types being “broken,” since they are likely to get away with anything. My kid won’t be the nasty kid’s plaything, I will raise hell and hurt feelings first.

The epee idea is truly brilliant. Congrats PP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My introvert DD picked up Epee fencing and no one at school dares to mess with her. The mean girls pick on shy kids in DD’s circle but always take 2 steps back when DD approaches. We are working with DD on standing up not only for herself but others in need.

Sorry OP that your kid may be in the same class next year. I never understood how these girls become so mean. One of those Hs a perfectly lovely mother who thinks the world of her DD. But that girl is just a miserable, two faced creature. I don’t get it.

Op again. The father is extremely sardonic and sarcastic and clearly thinks I helicopter - the POS has no idea that I’ve been on the PT train and juggling multi week appointments for years., since DD was 6 months old. He is horrible and stuck up. The girl is smart, like mine, and a daredevil so she’ll probably be “cool” even though she’s a whining, horse faced, dead eyed and utterly cruel little b$!tch. The mom is a teacher at the school and in some level a good person and has fretted to me about her girl having empathy issues. Stupid me used to feel sympathy. I’m done. It’s obviously been an issue for years. Fck her.

I’m going to request no placement with her, I don’t need this and my kid sure as hell doesn’t. I’m just (clearly!) so mad but also repulsed. I don’t know what I believe about cruel types being “broken,” since they are likely to get away with anything. My kid won’t be the nasty kid’s plaything, I will raise hell and hurt feelings first.

The epee idea is truly brilliant. Congrats PP.

I’m very sorry the girl has been mean but you really sound like you could use a little empathy brush up yourself talking like that about a little kid. When your kid does something mean or insensitive (snd she will, they all do) I hope any parent overhearing has a bit more grace.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My introvert DD picked up Epee fencing and no one at school dares to mess with her. The mean girls pick on shy kids in DD’s circle but always take 2 steps back when DD approaches. We are working with DD on standing up not only for herself but others in need.

Sorry OP that your kid may be in the same class next year. I never understood how these girls become so mean. One of those Hs a perfectly lovely mother who thinks the world of her DD. But that girl is just a miserable, two faced creature. I don’t get it.

Op again. The father is extremely sardonic and sarcastic and clearly thinks I helicopter - the POS has no idea that I’ve been on the PT train and juggling multi week appointments for years., since DD was 6 months old. He is horrible and stuck up. The girl is smart, like mine, and a daredevil so she’ll probably be “cool” even though she’s a whining, horse faced, dead eyed and utterly cruel little b$!tch. The mom is a teacher at the school and in some level a good person and has fretted to me about her girl having empathy issues. Stupid me used to feel sympathy. I’m done. It’s obviously been an issue for years. Fck her.

I’m going to request no placement with her, I don’t need this and my kid sure as hell doesn’t. I’m just (clearly!) so mad but also repulsed. I don’t know what I believe about cruel types being “broken,” since they are likely to get away with anything. My kid won’t be the nasty kid’s plaything, I will raise hell and hurt feelings first.

The epee idea is truly brilliant. Congrats PP.

I’m very sorry the girl has been mean but you really sound like you could use a little empathy brush up yourself talking like that about a little kid. When your kid does something mean or insensitive (snd she will, they all do) I hope any parent overhearing has a bit more grace.

You aren’t sorry, and my empathy is firmly in place and developed. If this bothers you, please move on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My daughter has some SNs related to motor skills and her former friend has noted that mine can’t climb on to the top of playground equipment, and has ignored her, mocked her, rolled her eyes at her, and otherwise been a bunch of words I can’t type here. My daughter seems to understand that she should not even say hi going forward, as the girl will gleefully greet their mutual friend and ignore her. I’m just venting because I hate that nasty kid so much. She is a terrible shit, and her “irony loving,” sarcastic, thinks-they’re-cool parents helped create that. I can’t say this IRL so I’m venting (with no purpose) here.

+1 to all of it, but especially the bolded.

We have "friends" we've known since before any of us had kids who are like this, and like this around their kids, and now that their kids are getting to be 6 or 7, their kids are also sarcastic and rude, and we no longer hang out with them at all because I don't want to be around any of it.

It is bizarre how many people view their kids as yet another cool accessory and not, you know, a person who they are responsible for turning into a worthwhile person. They'd rather cultivate their kid's musical taste or fashion sense than teach them kindness or tolerance. It's alarming to watch and you are wise to stay away, OP. I'm so sorry your daughter has to deal with someone like that.

Yes, thank you! It’s a really strange thing to witness. I suppose it doesn’t seem to bear fruit when the kids are essentially pre-verbal, but while there are outliers, the kids that struggle with basic kindness have in my admittedly limited experience, been raised by at least one ridiculously snide parent. YMMV.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My introvert DD picked up Epee fencing and no one at school dares to mess with her. The mean girls pick on shy kids in DD’s circle but always take 2 steps back when DD approaches. We are working with DD on standing up not only for herself but others in need.

Sorry OP that your kid may be in the same class next year. I never understood how these girls become so mean. One of those Hs a perfectly lovely mother who thinks the world of her DD. But that girl is just a miserable, two faced creature. I don’t get it.

Op again. The father is extremely sardonic and sarcastic and clearly thinks I helicopter - the POS has no idea that I’ve been on the PT train and juggling multi week appointments for years., since DD was 6 months old. He is horrible and stuck up. The girl is smart, like mine, and a daredevil so she’ll probably be “cool” even though she’s a whining, horse faced, dead eyed and utterly cruel little b$!tch. The mom is a teacher at the school and in some level a good person and has fretted to me about her girl having empathy issues. Stupid me used to feel sympathy. I’m done. It’s obviously been an issue for years. Fck her.

I’m going to request no placement with her, I don’t need this and my kid sure as hell doesn’t. I’m just (clearly!) so mad but also repulsed. I don’t know what I believe about cruel types being “broken,” since they are likely to get away with anything. My kid won’t be the nasty kid’s plaything, I will raise hell and hurt feelings first.

The epee idea is truly brilliant. Congrats PP.

I’m very sorry the girl has been mean but you really sound like you could use a little empathy brush up yourself talking like that about a little kid. When your kid does something mean or insensitive (snd she will, they all do) I hope any parent overhearing has a bit more grace.

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