Daycare now requiring masks for 2 year olds- ok to ask for deposit back?

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Anonymous wrote:No way do you get your deposit back. If it's a county mandate, ask the county for your money back! Then get a nanny.

I work in a child care center and guess what? The 2 year olds have learned to wear masks.

PP is right. It is a county mandate. If you feel that strongly about “no masks in preschools,” then your best bet is to contact your county (whoever is making these decisions) or even the CDC and propose/speak up/lobby that they change the rules. Montgomery County mandates 2 and up. CDC mandates 2 and up. Maryland mandates 5 and up. Virginia mandates 5 and up. The other posters wrote that DC mandates 2 and up. If your daycare is in Montgomery County, then the daycare must follow county rules. If enough people disagree with the Montgomery County mandate and speak up, then perhaps the county may change their standpoint and mandates. If you choose to send your kid to a daycare in this county or jurisdiction, he or she will likely have to wear a mask wherever they go. Otherwise, you can move or drive to a daycare in Virginia or another county in Maryland where there is no such mandate -or- hire a nanny.

I personally agree with the Montgomery County/DC mandate that preschoolers should be masked when indoors since they are not vaccinated and there are so many new variants that are more contagious.

There’s no MoCo mandate. My in-home informed us that the new guidelines state that masks are not compulsory for 2 year olds if the kid won’t wear them.

[Anonymous]

Regardless of all our pontificating on masks-on-toddlers, of course you can ask for your deposit back. I doubt they’ll give it back to you but you can certainly ask.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No way do you get your deposit back. If it's a county mandate, ask the county for your money back! Then get a nanny.

I work in a child care center and guess what? The 2 year olds have learned to wear masks.

PP is right. It is a county mandate. If you feel that strongly about “no masks in preschools,” then your best bet is to contact your county (whoever is making these decisions) or even the CDC and propose/speak up/lobby that they change the rules. Montgomery County mandates 2 and up. CDC mandates 2 and up. Maryland mandates 5 and up. Virginia mandates 5 and up. The other posters wrote that DC mandates 2 and up. If your daycare is in Montgomery County, then the daycare must follow county rules. If enough people disagree with the Montgomery County mandate and speak up, then perhaps the county may change their standpoint and mandates. If you choose to send your kid to a daycare in this county or jurisdiction, he or she will likely have to wear a mask wherever they go. Otherwise, you can move or drive to a daycare in Virginia or another county in Maryland where there is no such mandate -or- hire a nanny.

I personally agree with the Montgomery County/DC mandate that preschoolers should be masked when indoors since they are not vaccinated and there are so many new variants that are more contagious.

There’s no MoCo mandate. My in-home informed us that the new guidelines state that masks are not compulsory for 2 year olds if the kid won’t wear them.

Legit question- how did OP’s daycare get reported & run into issues with the county if there’s no mandate? If there was no mandate, OP’s daycare wouldn’t have an issue and OP wouldn’t have posted this issue.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No way do you get your deposit back. If it's a county mandate, ask the county for your money back! Then get a nanny.

I work in a child care center and guess what? The 2 year olds have learned to wear masks.

PP is right. It is a county mandate. If you feel that strongly about “no masks in preschools,” then your best bet is to contact your county (whoever is making these decisions) or even the CDC and propose/speak up/lobby that they change the rules. Montgomery County mandates 2 and up. CDC mandates 2 and up. Maryland mandates 5 and up. Virginia mandates 5 and up. The other posters wrote that DC mandates 2 and up. If your daycare is in Montgomery County, then the daycare must follow county rules. If enough people disagree with the Montgomery County mandate and speak up, then perhaps the county may change their standpoint and mandates. If you choose to send your kid to a daycare in this county or jurisdiction, he or she will likely have to wear a mask wherever they go. Otherwise, you can move or drive to a daycare in Virginia or another county in Maryland where there is no such mandate -or- hire a nanny.

I personally agree with the Montgomery County/DC mandate that preschoolers should be masked when indoors since they are not vaccinated and there are so many new variants that are more contagious.

There’s no MoCo mandate. My in-home informed us that the new guidelines state that masks are not compulsory for 2 year olds if the kid won’t wear them.

Legit question- how did OP’s daycare get reported & run into issues with the county if there’s no mandate? If there was no mandate, OP’s daycare wouldn’t have an issue and OP wouldn’t have posted this issue.

Just because someone at the county said something does not make it true. I’d be curious to know *who* exactly the daycare was informed by. The county department of health? Or the licensing specialist, who is actually employed by the state?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Its a county requirement and your kid nor the other kids are vaccinated. Grow up.

So I’m curious where this daycare is- DC or which county? Im guessing it must be DC or Montgomery county, but I’m not sure how much teeth MoCo’s requirement has since daycares are licensed by the state.

My daycare center in Montgomery county requires 2 year old & above to wear mask since last year March/April. I thought it is cdc mandate something like that. My 2 year old is going to start at daycare next month, and I have already prepared many little masks for her to wear. She has been wearing masks at public playground.

The cdc and Maryland’s mandate is 5 and up.

Yes. And MoCo is two and up and a good daycare isn’t picking a fight about this. It’s dumb but the path of least resistance is to follow the rules.

A good daycare understands child development, unlike the moco government.

+1. And again, could the COUNTY revoke a license issued by the STATE? Genuinely curious.

No, but they can make it so they can’t operate in-county and have to relocate out.

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Anonymous wrote:Its a county requirement and your kid nor the other kids are vaccinated. Grow up.

So I’m curious where this daycare is- DC or which county? Im guessing it must be DC or Montgomery county, but I’m not sure how much teeth MoCo’s requirement has since daycares are licensed by the state.

My daycare center in Montgomery county requires 2 year old & above to wear mask since last year March/April. I thought it is cdc mandate something like that. My 2 year old is going to start at daycare next month, and I have already prepared many little masks for her to wear. She has been wearing masks at public playground.

The cdc and Maryland’s mandate is 5 and up.

Yes. And MoCo is two and up and a good daycare isn’t picking a fight about this. It’s dumb but the path of least resistance is to follow the rules.

A good daycare understands child development, unlike the moco government.

+1. And again, could the COUNTY revoke a license issued by the STATE? Genuinely curious.

No, but they can make it so they can’t operate in-county and have to relocate out.

How? That doesn't make any sense. Plus isn't the county planning to defer to all the state guidelines soon anyway?

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Anonymous wrote:Its a county requirement and your kid nor the other kids are vaccinated. Grow up.

So I’m curious where this daycare is- DC or which county? Im guessing it must be DC or Montgomery county, but I’m not sure how much teeth MoCo’s requirement has since daycares are licensed by the state.

My daycare center in Montgomery county requires 2 year old & above to wear mask since last year March/April. I thought it is cdc mandate something like that. My 2 year old is going to start at daycare next month, and I have already prepared many little masks for her to wear. She has been wearing masks at public playground.

The cdc and Maryland’s mandate is 5 and up.

Yes. And MoCo is two and up and a good daycare isn’t picking a fight about this. It’s dumb but the path of least resistance is to follow the rules.

A good daycare understands child development, unlike the moco government.

+1. And again, could the COUNTY revoke a license issued by the STATE? Genuinely curious.

No, but they can make it so they can’t operate in-county and have to relocate out.

False.

It’s just theater. The county does not have authority over the state.

[Anonymous]

OP, I get it. It is absolutely idiotic and ridiculous that a 2 year old has to wear a mask. So glad I'm in a county where that's not a requirement. So damn laughable.

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Anonymous wrote:My MIL teaches Kindergarten and she says the kids that age chew in the masks and won't keep them on. One kid ate like half of a paper mask. And these kids are older.

It's totally a false sense of security, kids that close to each other all day, the masks really won't do anything, especially with typical kid compliance. They're napping and eating together.

My two year old wears a mask. My kindergartner definitely wears a mask

Why are there so many bad parents out there unable to teach their kids to wear masks?
Or is it just that the parents aren’t trying?
This isn’t hard, people.

You’re right, it’s not hard to get kids to wear a mask. What is hard is to have kids wear masks for eight hours a day and keep them clean and sanitary.

Stop. I direct a childcare center in DC. Our 2s and older wear masks. Yes, it took about 1.5 months in September to get the 2s used to them. But they are good at it now. And, we CHANGE THEM when they get wet or yucky. So a child goes through 2 or 3 a day. We don't leave them in wet masks! Yes, some children chew on them but those kids change them more often. Seriously. I want kids to be out of masks. I want ME to be out of a mask.


So get vaccinated yourself.
Get your 12 year olds and older get vaccinated.
And when the 2s and up can get vaccinated then get them vaccinated.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No way do you get your deposit back. If it's a county mandate, ask the county for your money back! Then get a nanny.

I work in a child care center and guess what? The 2 year olds have learned to wear masks.

PP is right. It is a county mandate. If you feel that strongly about “no masks in preschools,” then your best bet is to contact your county (whoever is making these decisions) or even the CDC and propose/speak up/lobby that they change the rules. Montgomery County mandates 2 and up. CDC mandates 2 and up. Maryland mandates 5 and up. Virginia mandates 5 and up. The other posters wrote that DC mandates 2 and up. If your daycare is in Montgomery County, then the daycare must follow county rules. If enough people disagree with the Montgomery County mandate and speak up, then perhaps the county may change their standpoint and mandates. If you choose to send your kid to a daycare in this county or jurisdiction, he or she will likely have to wear a mask wherever they go. Otherwise, you can move or drive to a daycare in Virginia or another county in Maryland where there is no such mandate -or- hire a nanny.

I personally agree with the Montgomery County/DC mandate that preschoolers should be masked when indoors since they are not vaccinated and there are so many new variants that are more contagious.

There’s no MoCo mandate. My in-home informed us that the new guidelines state that masks are not compulsory for 2 year olds if the kid won’t wear them.

This isn't even new. The guidance to child care centers in Montgomery County was always just to try to get >2 yo to wear masks, but not to force it if the kids aren't developmentally ready to wear masks appropriately.

The whole idea of 2 year olds wearing masks in MoCo will go away on May 28th when the county terminates its health order. The state always had its mask order start at age 5. And both have had exceptions.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My MIL teaches Kindergarten and she says the kids that age chew in the masks and won't keep them on. One kid ate like half of a paper mask. And these kids are older.

It's totally a false sense of security, kids that close to each other all day, the masks really won't do anything, especially with typical kid compliance. They're napping and eating together.

My two year old wears a mask. My kindergartner definitely wears a mask

Why are there so many bad parents out there unable to teach their kids to wear masks?
Or is it just that the parents aren’t trying?
This isn’t hard, people.

You’re right, it’s not hard to get kids to wear a mask. What is hard is to have kids wear masks for eight hours a day and keep them clean and sanitary.

Stop. I direct a childcare center in DC. Our 2s and older wear masks. Yes, it took about 1.5 months in September to get the 2s used to them. But they are good at it now. And, we CHANGE THEM when they get wet or yucky. So a child goes through 2 or 3 a day. We don't leave them in wet masks! Yes, some children chew on them but those kids change them more often. Seriously. I want kids to be out of masks. I want ME to be out of a mask.


So get vaccinated yourself.
Get your 12 year olds and older get vaccinated.
And when the 2s and up can get vaccinated then get them vaccinated.

If a kid is chewing/sucking on a mask, then the mask is a greater danger than a help. If the masks don't fit snugly around the mouth, then they're not stopping droplets. If the masks constantly fall under the kids noses, then they're not doing much.

Any of those sound familiar? Because that's what I see at my kid's daycare every single day.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No way do you get your deposit back. If it's a county mandate, ask the county for your money back! Then get a nanny.

I work in a child care center and guess what? The 2 year olds have learned to wear masks.

PP is right. It is a county mandate. If you feel that strongly about “no masks in preschools,” then your best bet is to contact your county (whoever is making these decisions) or even the CDC and propose/speak up/lobby that they change the rules. Montgomery County mandates 2 and up. CDC mandates 2 and up. Maryland mandates 5 and up. Virginia mandates 5 and up. The other posters wrote that DC mandates 2 and up. If your daycare is in Montgomery County, then the daycare must follow county rules. If enough people disagree with the Montgomery County mandate and speak up, then perhaps the county may change their standpoint and mandates. If you choose to send your kid to a daycare in this county or jurisdiction, he or she will likely have to wear a mask wherever they go. Otherwise, you can move or drive to a daycare in Virginia or another county in Maryland where there is no such mandate -or- hire a nanny.

I personally agree with the Montgomery County/DC mandate that preschoolers should be masked when indoors since they are not vaccinated and there are so many new variants that are more contagious.

There’s no MoCo mandate. My in-home informed us that the new guidelines state that masks are not compulsory for 2 year olds if the kid won’t wear them.

This isn't even new. The guidance to child care centers in Montgomery County was always just to try to get >2 yo to wear masks, but not to force it if the kids aren't developmentally ready to wear masks appropriately.

The whole idea of 2 year olds wearing masks in MoCo will go away on May 28th when the county terminates its health order. The state always had its mask order start at age 5. And both have had exceptions.

I don’t think it’s going away though because, per their website update, the county still strongly recommends masks for the unvaccinated. Our daycare recently sent a covid update and said they intend to follow the county/cdc recommendation to keep all kids 2+ masked inside and outside. No word on why they choose to ignore the state guidance. I wish they’d at least get rid of the mask requirement outside and have said so, but they cling to the county and cdc rec. Definitely makes me wish I had enrolled my younger child elsewhere.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No way do you get your deposit back. If it's a county mandate, ask the county for your money back! Then get a nanny.

I work in a child care center and guess what? The 2 year olds have learned to wear masks.

PP is right. It is a county mandate. If you feel that strongly about “no masks in preschools,” then your best bet is to contact your county (whoever is making these decisions) or even the CDC and propose/speak up/lobby that they change the rules. Montgomery County mandates 2 and up. CDC mandates 2 and up. Maryland mandates 5 and up. Virginia mandates 5 and up. The other posters wrote that DC mandates 2 and up. If your daycare is in Montgomery County, then the daycare must follow county rules. If enough people disagree with the Montgomery County mandate and speak up, then perhaps the county may change their standpoint and mandates. If you choose to send your kid to a daycare in this county or jurisdiction, he or she will likely have to wear a mask wherever they go. Otherwise, you can move or drive to a daycare in Virginia or another county in Maryland where there is no such mandate -or- hire a nanny.

I personally agree with the Montgomery County/DC mandate that preschoolers should be masked when indoors since they are not vaccinated and there are so many new variants that are more contagious.

There’s no MoCo mandate. My in-home informed us that the new guidelines state that masks are not compulsory for 2 year olds if the kid won’t wear them.

This isn't even new. The guidance to child care centers in Montgomery County was always just to try to get >2 yo to wear masks, but not to force it if the kids aren't developmentally ready to wear masks appropriately.

The whole idea of 2 year olds wearing masks in MoCo will go away on May 28th when the county terminates its health order. The state always had its mask order start at age 5. And both have had exceptions.

I don’t think it’s going away though because, per their website update, the county still strongly recommends masks for the unvaccinated. Our daycare recently sent a covid update and said they intend to follow the county/cdc recommendation to keep all kids 2+ masked inside and outside. No word on why they choose to ignore the state guidance. I wish they’d at least get rid of the mask requirement outside and have said so, but they cling to the county and cdc rec. Definitely makes me wish I had enrolled my younger child elsewhere.

I would be surprised that school will send out a note saying that all vaccinated parents can be massless when they drop off or pick up their kids at the front of daycare center even state/county allow it. Bad role model for kids. And, I don’t think they will allow parents to go into building this summer because they cannot risk any sort of possible outbreak and they are not going to check vaccination card.

[Anonymous]

The % positive rates and case numbers are also way way down in the region. If cases continue to fall like they have been, continuing to require masks for kids will be silly.

Honestly though I'll get my 2 year old vaccinated as soon as they approve it too.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No way do you get your deposit back. If it's a county mandate, ask the county for your money back! Then get a nanny.

I work in a child care center and guess what? The 2 year olds have learned to wear masks.

PP is right. It is a county mandate. If you feel that strongly about “no masks in preschools,” then your best bet is to contact your county (whoever is making these decisions) or even the CDC and propose/speak up/lobby that they change the rules. Montgomery County mandates 2 and up. CDC mandates 2 and up. Maryland mandates 5 and up. Virginia mandates 5 and up. The other posters wrote that DC mandates 2 and up. If your daycare is in Montgomery County, then the daycare must follow county rules. If enough people disagree with the Montgomery County mandate and speak up, then perhaps the county may change their standpoint and mandates. If you choose to send your kid to a daycare in this county or jurisdiction, he or she will likely have to wear a mask wherever they go. Otherwise, you can move or drive to a daycare in Virginia or another county in Maryland where there is no such mandate -or- hire a nanny.

I personally agree with the Montgomery County/DC mandate that preschoolers should be masked when indoors since they are not vaccinated and there are so many new variants that are more contagious.

There’s no MoCo mandate. My in-home informed us that the new guidelines state that masks are not compulsory for 2 year olds if the kid won’t wear them.

This isn't even new. The guidance to child care centers in Montgomery County was always just to try to get >2 yo to wear masks, but not to force it if the kids aren't developmentally ready to wear masks appropriately.

The whole idea of 2 year olds wearing masks in MoCo will go away on May 28th when the county terminates its health order. The state always had its mask order start at age 5. And both have had exceptions.

I don’t think it’s going away though because, per their website update, the county still strongly recommends masks for the unvaccinated. Our daycare recently sent a covid update and said they intend to follow the county/cdc recommendation to keep all kids 2+ masked inside and outside. No word on why they choose to ignore the state guidance. I wish they’d at least get rid of the mask requirement outside and have said so, but they cling to the county and cdc rec. Definitely makes me wish I had enrolled my younger child elsewhere.

I would be surprised that school will send out a note saying that all vaccinated parents can be massless when they drop off or pick up their kids at the front of daycare center even state/county allow it. Bad role model for kids. And, I don’t think they will allow parents to go into building this summer because they cannot risk any sort of possible outbreak and they are not going to check vaccination card.

PP here- no problem with ongoing door dropoff and requirement for parents to be masked at dropoff. My issue is continuging to require masks on the kids while playing outside. I partly blame the CDC for this because they don't seem to realize how many institutions hang on their every word, but it also makes me question the daycare's judgement and knowledge of child development in a way it hadn't pre-pandemic. There was another issue recently too where the teachers/driector didn't seem to realize something was wrong with my DC and I think it's because she's so muffled through the mask.