White cops harass and pepper spray Black Army Lieutenant in Windsor, VA

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Anonymous wrote:Why didn't get get out of the car, he will lose his clearance for this. Remember that military could be armed and have recently been mass shooters


Nope. He hasn’t faced any military punishment because he did nothing wrong. He was not arrested or given a ticket. He is suing the police department.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This is a good video to show your kids as what not to do when getting pulled over.

It’s actually a great training video to show cops as to how they end up killing so many unarmed Black people who pose zero threat to anyone.
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Anonymous wrote:Why didn't get get out of the car, he will lose his clearance for this. Remember that military could be armed and have recently been mass shooters


Watch the full body cam video before saying something that stupid.
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Anonymous wrote:This is a good video to show your kids as what not to do when getting pulled over.


He was calm and respectful. The cops were both insanely out of control and idiotic. Watch the full body cam video before it “malfunctioned”
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Anonymous wrote:This is a good video to show your kids as what not to do when getting pulled over.


This is an informative video to show kids that even when a black man is in the military in full uniform police officers (particularly white ones) will still see him as a dangerous threat and use excessive force even if no crime has been committed.
Anonymous
Fascist cops. Fire them and the Police Chief and close the town’s police department. These dipshit small towns don’t need their own dysfunctional police. Let the county sheriff cover the jurisdiction.
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Anonymous wrote:This idiot failed repeatedly to follow basic commands. The cops did sctew up at times ny giving conflicting commands.


He was pepper sprayed while calmly sitting in his car, with his hands outside the window, just after asking why he was being detained. That is indefensible.


He had been sitting there arguing with the cops for a good long while by that point.

He had every opportunity to not be an idiot, and at each decision point chose idiot.

If you don't want a tense confrontation with the cops, obey directions, don't argue, don't resist.


They gave him no reason for approaching him. They just started barking orders in the most aggressive way possible. You clearly are white, aren't you?


I think we definitely need to find more ways to introduce race into this. After all, isn't everything about race?


Yes, yes it is. Every single institution in this country is built on the foundation of white supremacy/superiority and it's time to dismantle oppressive institutional, systemic racism.




Of course everything, everyone, everywhere, racist.

It is amazing you have survived this long in such a horrible racist place.


My ancestors survived hundreds of years of slavery so yes I have survival in my blood.


There is nobody alive today whose ancestors didn't survive many trials that they might not have.

My ancestors hunted mammoths with stone tipped spears, and I often deal with traffic on my way to the grocery store. We all face our own trials in our own times I guess.



Can I talk to you privately, White person to White person? You sound like a total jackash. I think it comes from a place of ignorance, but that’s not an excuse in this day and age. You have the internet and library access, if you can’t afford books on your own. We all of us survived day to day life, that which was natural and normal in its place and was not done to us, but just happened. Slavery, a 400 year long condition of complete ownership over people’s bodies and lives (and minds and spirit, to the extent that the owners could manage it), was done to Black people. For generations. And it’s not like the cruelty stopped in 1865.

The exact same cruelty is still happening. And you’re excusing it.

So what you do is you pick an area of interest, and you find a book about it. Do you like gardening? Read about Black farmers and the challenges they have faced and face.
Here’s one that focuses on the years 1940-1974. https://www.amazon.com/Dispossession-Pete-Daniel/dp/1469622076/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=Black+farmers&qid=1618079176&sr=8-2
Here’s an artsy, photographic book if that’s more your speed: https://www.amazon.com/Black-Farmers-America-Francis-Ficara/dp/0813123992/ref=sr_1_7?dchild=1&keywords=Black+farmers&qid=1618079176&sr=8-7
Like sports? Read a book about the Negro Leagues.
https://www.amazon.com/Shades-Glory-Leagues-African-American-Baseball/dp/1426200331/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=Negro+leagues&qid=1618079318&sr=8-2
The Negro Leagues Were Major Leagues: https://www.amazon.com/Negro-Leagues-Were-Major-Historians/dp/1476665141/ref=sr_1_10?dchild=1&keywords=Negro+leagues&qid=1618079318&sr=8-10

And then you learn. And you don’t say stupidly offensive stuff like you wrote.



Lol

Seriously.

Slavery in 1865 is the same as "racism" today? Outside your window somewhere there is a real world where the earth revolves around the sun, not racism.

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Anonymous wrote:This is a good video to show your kids as what not to do when getting pulled over.


This is an informative video to show kids that even when a black man is in the military in full uniform police officers (particularly white ones) will still see him as a dangerous threat and use excessive force even if no crime has been committed.


Or maybe to show them that if he had just done as instructed no force would have been used in the first place.

Think about how those two different lessons might effect the outcomes in life for the kids.

One assumes racial motivations where none are evident. One one lead them to assume they are being targeted even in totally innocent interactions.

The other might let a traffic stop just be a traffic stop.

Anonymous
Looks like the justice warriors with zero law enforcement training or experience are now use of force experts.
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Anonymous wrote:Looks like the justice warriors with zero law enforcement training or experience are now use of force experts.


Why was force needed? They saw the temp tag when the motorist stopped.
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Anonymous wrote:This is a good video to show your kids as what not to do when getting pulled over.


This is an informative video to show kids that even when a black man is in the military in full uniform police officers (particularly white ones) will still see him as a dangerous threat and use excessive force even if no crime has been committed.


Or maybe to show them that if he had just done as instructed no force would have been used in the first place.

Think about how those two different lessons might effect the outcomes in life for the kids.

One assumes racial motivations where none are evident. One one lead them to assume they are being targeted even in totally innocent interactions.

The other might let a traffic stop just be a traffic stop.



You keep saying that, but the events of the last few years, say otherwise.

This man did not want to become the next George Floyd, Anthony McClain, Walter Scott, and many more. The fact is that as a black man, this individual was fearful for his life, fearful of being shot just for a traffic stop. And the only thing he was asking was to be told what the traffic stop was.

This is clearly a lesson for police officers of what NOT to do.
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Disturbing and, I think officers are trained to take that tone when dealing with non compliant citizens. The tone doesn't surprise me.

I think the lieutenant should have gotten out with his hands in the air as directed, but,
I can only imagine the terror a black man feels when those blue lights fill the rear view mirror.
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Anonymous wrote:Why didn't get get out of the car, he will lose his clearance for this. Remember that military could be armed and have recently been mass shooters


Nope. He hasn’t faced any military punishment because he did nothing wrong. He was not arrested or given a ticket. He is suing the police department.


PP is so full of shite. One does not lose their clearance for situations like this. Your last statement is just idiotic.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Looks like the justice warriors with zero law enforcement training or experience are now use of force experts.


There is no hope for you. If you are in le just retire now.
Anonymous
I'm from near there. None of this surprises me. Windsor is awful. I wouldn't be surprised if they belong to the KKK.
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