White cops harass and pepper spray Black Army Lieutenant in Windsor, VA

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This idiot failed repeatedly to follow basic commands. The cops did sctew up at times ny giving conflicting commands.

He was pepper sprayed while calmly sitting in his car, with his hands outside the window, just after asking why he was being detained. That is indefensible.

He had been sitting there arguing with the cops for a good long while by that point.

He had every opportunity to not be an idiot, and at each decision point chose idiot.

If you don't want a tense confrontation with the cops, obey directions, don't argue, don't resist.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you just watch the video it looks like he's just disobeying. You can't hear what he's saying.

Read the article and it sounds like he was behaving reasonably given the situation, and that the cops are idiots.

He’s disobeying because he is terrified of being killed. He knows what white cops do to black motorists. He was also terrified of reaching down to unbuckle his seat belt because they told him to stick his hands out the window and then told him to open the door. How can he do both at the same time?

That is on the media then, because the statistics show there is no disproportionate risk to black motorists from police, and as said before, if a traffic stop terrifies him beyond the point where he can function and follow basic commands then he should resign his commission.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This idiot failed repeatedly to follow basic commands. The cops did sctew up at times ny giving conflicting commands.

He was pepper sprayed while calmly sitting in his car, with his hands outside the window, just after asking why he was being detained. That is indefensible.

He had been sitting there arguing with the cops for a good long while by that point.

He had every opportunity to not be an idiot, and at each decision point chose idiot.

If you don't want a tense confrontation with the cops, obey directions, don't argue, don't resist.

He drove to a well lit area - a common thing to do. The dumb cops jumped out of their cars with weapons drawn and gave conflicting directions.

You should study the law more.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This idiot failed repeatedly to follow basic commands. The cops did sctew up at times ny giving conflicting commands.

He was pepper sprayed while calmly sitting in his car, with his hands outside the window, just after asking why he was being detained. That is indefensible.

He had been sitting there arguing with the cops for a good long while by that point.

He had every opportunity to not be an idiot, and at each decision point chose idiot.

If you don't want a tense confrontation with the cops, obey directions, don't argue, don't resist.

Was the smart thing to reach to his waist and unbuckle his seatbelt? I would be scared. At least with his hands out of the car, he made sure he was not a threat.

They never even bothered to tell him why they were pulling him over. If they had, he could say "there's a license plate in my window."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you just watch the video it looks like he's just disobeying. You can't hear what he's saying.

Read the article and it sounds like he was behaving reasonably given the situation, and that the cops are idiots.

He’s disobeying because he is terrified of being killed. He knows what white cops do to black motorists. He was also terrified of reaching down to unbuckle his seat belt because they told him to stick his hands out the window and then told him to open the door. How can he do both at the same time?

That is on the media then, because the statistics show there is no disproportionate risk to black motorists from police, and as said before, if a traffic stop terrifies him beyond the point where he can function and follow basic commands then he should resign his commission.

He functioned exceptionally well. He kept his hands outside the car.

They charged him with no crime. Let that sink in. No crime.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This idiot failed repeatedly to follow basic commands. The cops did sctew up at times ny giving conflicting commands.

He was pepper sprayed while calmly sitting in his car, with his hands outside the window, just after asking why he was being detained. That is indefensible.

He had been sitting there arguing with the cops for a good long while by that point.

He had every opportunity to not be an idiot, and at each decision point chose idiot.

If you don't want a tense confrontation with the cops, obey directions, don't argue, don't resist.

They gave him no reason for approaching him. They just started barking orders in the most aggressive way possible. You clearly are white, aren't you?

[Anonymous]

From blue lights on to pulling over where it was well lit was less than a mile.

The fat old dumb small-town cop was looking for a problem and made one.

https://www.wavy.com/news/local-news/isle-of-wight/lawsuit-windsor-police-officers-threatened-man-and-his-career-during-traffic-stop/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This idiot failed repeatedly to follow basic commands. The cops did sctew up at times ny giving conflicting commands.

He was pepper sprayed while calmly sitting in his car, with his hands outside the window, just after asking why he was being detained. That is indefensible.

He had been sitting there arguing with the cops for a good long while by that point.

He had every opportunity to not be an idiot, and at each decision point chose idiot.

If you don't want a tense confrontation with the cops, obey directions, don't argue, don't resist.

Was the smart thing to reach to his waist and unbuckle his seatbelt? I would be scared. At least with his hands out of the car, he made sure he was not a threat.

They never even bothered to tell him why they were pulling him over. If they had, he could say "there's a license plate in my window."

Yes, since they were telling him to do that. Imagine if he had just announced he was undoing his seat belt, done so, opened the door, and gotten out slowly with his hands in view. It isn't complicated nor difficult.

Arguing with the cops is stupid.

You don't know what they think they are doing. You may be innocent. Maybe the cops have the wrong guy...but if the guy they are looking for just shot some people, they are going to be ready for the worst.

So lose the attitude. Don't play lawyer and tell the cops what they are allowed to direct you to do. (Especially when you are wrong. ) Don't argue. Don't resist them.

Just do as directed, slowly, and keep your hands in view.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you just watch the video it looks like he's just disobeying. You can't hear what he's saying.

Read the article and it sounds like he was behaving reasonably given the situation, and that the cops are idiots.

He’s disobeying because he is terrified of being killed. He knows what white cops do to black motorists. He was also terrified of reaching down to unbuckle his seat belt because they told him to stick his hands out the window and then told him to open the door. How can he do both at the same time?

That is on the media then, because the statistics show there is no disproportionate risk to black motorists from police, and as said before, if a traffic stop terrifies him beyond the point where he can function and follow basic commands then he should resign his commission.

This is so false but I somewhat admire how boldly you stated this.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/06/03/us/minneapolis-police-use-of-force.html

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jan/02/california-police-black-stops-force

https://www.npr.org/local/305/2020/06/24/882777765/fairfax-county-police-disproportionately-use-force-on-black-people-report-finds

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This idiot failed repeatedly to follow basic commands. The cops did sctew up at times ny giving conflicting commands.

He was pepper sprayed while calmly sitting in his car, with his hands outside the window, just after asking why he was being detained. That is indefensible.

He had been sitting there arguing with the cops for a good long while by that point.

He had every opportunity to not be an idiot, and at each decision point chose idiot.

If you don't want a tense confrontation with the cops, obey directions, don't argue, don't resist.

They gave him no reason for approaching him. They just started barking orders in the most aggressive way possible. You clearly are white, aren't you?

I think we definitely need to find more ways to introduce race into this. After all, isn't everything about race?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This idiot failed repeatedly to follow basic commands. The cops did sctew up at times ny giving conflicting commands.

He was pepper sprayed while calmly sitting in his car, with his hands outside the window, just after asking why he was being detained. That is indefensible.

He had been sitting there arguing with the cops for a good long while by that point.

He had every opportunity to not be an idiot, and at each decision point chose idiot.

If you don't want a tense confrontation with the cops, obey directions, don't argue, don't resist.

Was the smart thing to reach to his waist and unbuckle his seatbelt? I would be scared. At least with his hands out of the car, he made sure he was not a threat.

They never even bothered to tell him why they were pulling him over. If they had, he could say "there's a license plate in my window."

Yes, since they were telling him to do that. Imagine if he had just announced he was undoing his seat belt, done so, opened the door, and gotten out slowly with his hands in view. It isn't complicated nor difficult.

Arguing with the cops is stupid.

You don't know what they think they are doing. You may be innocent. Maybe the cops have the wrong guy...but if the guy they are looking for just shot some people, they are going to be ready for the worst.

So lose the attitude. Don't play lawyer and tell the cops what they are allowed to direct you to do. (Especially when you are wrong. ) Don't argue. Don't resist them.

Just do as directed, slowly, and keep your hands in view.

Again they aggressively gave conflicting commands. They approached him in an unprofessional manner. The supervisor was apologetic but patronizing and they let him go without even a ticket because he did nothing wrong. The older officer also threatens to ruin his military career by falsifying what happened during the encounter.

White racists really love to gaslight black people, accusing them of just not following orders even with video footage stating otherwise (i.e. Philando Castile).

Let me guess, you think Chauvin should be acquitted?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This idiot failed repeatedly to follow basic commands. The cops did sctew up at times ny giving conflicting commands.

He was pepper sprayed while calmly sitting in his car, with his hands outside the window, just after asking why he was being detained. That is indefensible.

He had been sitting there arguing with the cops for a good long while by that point.

He had every opportunity to not be an idiot, and at each decision point chose idiot.

If you don't want a tense confrontation with the cops, obey directions, don't argue, don't resist.

They gave him no reason for approaching him. They just started barking orders in the most aggressive way possible. You clearly are white, aren't you?

I think we definitely need to find more ways to introduce race into this. After all, isn't everything about race?

Yes, yes it is. Every single institution in this country is built on the foundation of white supremacy/superiority and it's time to dismantle oppressive institutional, systemic racism.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This idiot failed repeatedly to follow basic commands. The cops did sctew up at times ny giving conflicting commands.

He was pepper sprayed while calmly sitting in his car, with his hands outside the window, just after asking why he was being detained. That is indefensible.

He had been sitting there arguing with the cops for a good long while by that point.

He had every opportunity to not be an idiot, and at each decision point chose idiot.

If you don't want a tense confrontation with the cops, obey directions, don't argue, don't resist.

Was the smart thing to reach to his waist and unbuckle his seatbelt? I would be scared. At least with his hands out of the car, he made sure he was not a threat.

They never even bothered to tell him why they were pulling him over. If they had, he could say "there's a license plate in my window."

Yes, since they were telling him to do that. Imagine if he had just announced he was undoing his seat belt, done so, opened the door, and gotten out slowly with his hands in view. It isn't complicated nor difficult.

Arguing with the cops is stupid.

You don't know what they think they are doing. You may be innocent. Maybe the cops have the wrong guy...but if the guy they are looking for just shot some people, they are going to be ready for the worst.

So lose the attitude. Don't play lawyer and tell the cops what they are allowed to direct you to do. (Especially when you are wrong. ) Don't argue. Don't resist them.

Just do as directed, slowly, and keep your hands in view.

Again they aggressively gave conflicting commands. They approached him in an unprofessional manner. The supervisor was apologetic but patronizing and they let him go without even a ticket because he did nothing wrong. The older officer also threatens to ruin his military career by falsifying what happened during the encounter.

White racists really love to gaslight black people, accusing them of just not following orders even with video footage stating otherwise (i.e. Philando Castile).

Let me guess, you think Chauvin should be acquitted?

Ah, we are back to calling people racists without any evidence whatsoever.

BTW, the second officer is named "Gutierrez," so... doesn't quite fit the narrative of the omg -white- small town cop.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This idiot failed repeatedly to follow basic commands. The cops did sctew up at times ny giving conflicting commands.

He was pepper sprayed while calmly sitting in his car, with his hands outside the window, just after asking why he was being detained. That is indefensible.

He had been sitting there arguing with the cops for a good long while by that point.

He had every opportunity to not be an idiot, and at each decision point chose idiot.

If you don't want a tense confrontation with the cops, obey directions, don't argue, don't resist.

They gave him no reason for approaching him. They just started barking orders in the most aggressive way possible. You clearly are white, aren't you?

I think we definitely need to find more ways to introduce race into this. After all, isn't everything about race?

Yes, yes it is. Every single institution in this country is built on the foundation of white supremacy/superiority and it's time to dismantle oppressive institutional, systemic racism.

Of course everything, everyone, everywhere, racist.

It is amazing you have survived this long in such a horrible racist place.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This idiot failed repeatedly to follow basic commands. The cops did sctew up at times ny giving conflicting commands.

He was pepper sprayed while calmly sitting in his car, with his hands outside the window, just after asking why he was being detained. That is indefensible.

He had been sitting there arguing with the cops for a good long while by that point.

He had every opportunity to not be an idiot, and at each decision point chose idiot.

If you don't want a tense confrontation with the cops, obey directions, don't argue, don't resist.

Was the smart thing to reach to his waist and unbuckle his seatbelt? I would be scared. At least with his hands out of the car, he made sure he was not a threat.

They never even bothered to tell him why they were pulling him over. If they had, he could say "there's a license plate in my window."

Yes, since they were telling him to do that. Imagine if he had just announced he was undoing his seat belt, done so, opened the door, and gotten out slowly with his hands in view. It isn't complicated nor difficult.

Arguing with the cops is stupid.

You don't know what they think they are doing. You may be innocent. Maybe the cops have the wrong guy...but if the guy they are looking for just shot some people, they are going to be ready for the worst.

So lose the attitude. Don't play lawyer and tell the cops what they are allowed to direct you to do. (Especially when you are wrong. ) Don't argue. Don't resist them.

Just do as directed, slowly, and keep your hands in view.

Again they aggressively gave conflicting commands. They approached him in an unprofessional manner. The supervisor was apologetic but patronizing and they let him go without even a ticket because he did nothing wrong. The older officer also threatens to ruin his military career by falsifying what happened during the encounter.

White racists really love to gaslight black people, accusing them of just not following orders even with video footage stating otherwise (i.e. Philando Castile).

Let me guess, you think Chauvin should be acquitted?

Ah, we are back to calling people racists without any evidence whatsoever.

BTW, the second officer is named "Gutierrez," so... doesn't quite fit the narrative of the omg -white- small town cop.

My evidence is your comments.

Do you really think a white person with a Spanish last name can't be racist or anti-black? Try visiting Miami.