Test optional sucks and Cornell is not elite

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I used to teach underserved kids. The really bright ones -and every demographic has really bright kids- had insights and innovative responses that I don’t always see in the kids from backgrounds with more built-in opportunities. I’m wondering if we’re going to see some break-through innovators as a result if test optional admissions. Sure, some won’t make it. But some will, and they wouldn’t have had the opportunities otherwise.

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Anonymous wrote:I love how she swears in the video, Real quality catch you picked there Cornell.

What's wrong with cursing?

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The private equity firm that owns my employer makes all employees take a standardized test as part of the hiring process. At age 53, I had to take the cognitive test for my executive-level job despite a 30 year job history and set of associated accomplishments.

Eventually most people are going to get stacked ranked against peers based on analytics - for jobs, promotions, grad school, etc. is college too early?

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She was admitted to the HumEc school for fashion design and seemingly had a lot of related ECs:
https://www.tiktok.com/@kari.alexandra/video/6941123412991495430

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Anonymous wrote:The private equity firm that owns my employer makes all employees take a standardized test as part of the hiring process. At age 53, I had to take the cognitive test for my executive-level job despite a 30 year job history and set of associated accomplishments.

Eventually most people are going to get stacked ranked against peers based on analytics - for jobs, promotions, grad school, etc. is college too early?

Nope. Not "most people". That is extremely rare in the professional world.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid who was a NMS, had 35 ACT, countless APs and extremely high GPA, three sport athlete and involved in leadership activities got rejected by almost every Ivy League (she didn’t apply to one - rejected by the rest).

Very jaded here.

seriously you kid doesn't stand out, you tried to play the AP game and you lost. There is a new game in town and it's called being unique.

There are a ton of successful Ivy grads that had low SAT/ACT test scores. Good grades does not = success at that level.

National awards, leading movement, being the top 1% of a sport/art, having rich/influential parents... those are things that point to success... not being a good little girl/boy

Harsh but true. One of my (wealthy white) children had perfect stats when applying. Took the SAT one time and got a perfect score, took an extremely rigorous course load, great ECs, etc. I told her she should assume she had no chance at the tippy top schools because she was indistinguishable on paper from thousands of similarly situated kids around the country. She applied to a few and was shut out. Neither of us felt “jaded” because we were aware of the realities around admissions, and it’s really not any kind of a tragedy for kids like this, who will be successful wherever they go.

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Anonymous wrote:Cornell is the community college of the Ivy League.

+1. Cornell should be ranked below 30 by US news.

Thank you for your expert opinion

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Anonymous wrote:So basically mediocre students can get into Ivies but exceptional hard working students cannot. Hmm.. makes so much sense

only if those mediocre students are first gen students, the right kind of minority, athletes, or have parents who write very large checks

or lead national movements, perform in the top 1% of the nation at something, are self made.

My kid does an international sport as Team USA and went in with 1530 SAT. Rejected from four ivies. Who knows what it takes?

Sports aren’t a hook unless the kid is being recruited to play for the college. Outside of that scenario, sports participation, even at a very high level, even if serving as the captain of three varsity sports teams per year, is just another good EC to add to the list.

[Anonymous]

In the early days, Jeff Bezos asked SAT scores for potential hires. It worked out well for him.

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Rodriguez. Done.

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Anonymous wrote:I love how she swears in the video, Real quality catch you picked there Cornell.

What's wrong with cursing?

What is impressive about cursing? Easy cheap garbage words.

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Anonymous wrote:In the early days, Jeff Bezos asked SAT scores for potential hires. It worked out well for him.

If getting education at Harvard is like working for amazon. - do not pay to go to Harvard. Period.

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Anonymous wrote:She was admitted to the HumEc school for fashion design and seemingly had a lot of related ECs:
https://www.tiktok.com/@kari.alexandra/video/6941123412991495430

That's one of the "SUNY" schools of Cornell. Of course, so is the labor relations school and they graduated some high level sports execs, including the MLB and NHL commissioners.

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Anonymous wrote:Cornell is the community college of the Ivy League.

+1. Cornell should be ranked below 30 by US news.

You understand these are not arbitrary choices, right? That they have a data-based methodology - rightly or wrongly as it may be - and they put the data in and the rankings result?

I hate the rankings and wish they would stop - but the idea that they should just choose where they put a school is the only thing that could make them more asinine than they already are. Good job!

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Anonymous wrote:She was admitted to the HumEc school for fashion design and seemingly had a lot of related ECs:
https://www.tiktok.com/@kari.alexandra/video/6941123412991495430

I'm glad they accepted her if she applied fashion design. She appeared to have the background and GPAs were high. The problem with the SAT is it is a 2-dimensional test (Language and Math) which had nothing to do with her passions (Math especially). HumEc was test-blind this year - so rescission is not even relevant.