Family of six killed by depressed and suicidal 19-year-old

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:gun control. gun control. gun control.

good luck with that. What reform would have prevented this?

He mentioned in his note that the gun shop owner asked his brother if he had any 'mental health issues'. The brother lied. The gun was handed over.

How about we start with that?

National database accessible by firearms sellers and updated by medical service providers with a simple read-out - you put your driver's license or ID under the scanner, you get DENIED if you're on certain prescriptions or restrictions.

And don't tell me they can't do it. I went into my local alcohol store and when carded - they had me swipe it under a non-tactile scanner.

so you want to create a national registry of anyone who has ever had mental health issues? I'm sure there will be no objections at all to that

I mean...the majority of our homeless have mental health issues, almost all of our mass shooters have had documented mental health issues (Columbine, Sandy Hook, Majory Stoneman Douglass), and most of the recent assaults against Asian americans has been by perpetrators with mental health issues.

IDK maybe we should just keep ignoring this subset of society and letting them have all the guns they want though.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4318286/

The population of people with "mental health issues" who do not commit violence is so much larger than the population that does that a registry created this way would be garbage data.

Military disqualifies based on a bunch of mental health disorders. Should be the same for gun ownership.

How about driving a car? And voting? And being allowed to have a credit card?

It's a slippery slope and there's no real reason to have such a large population of people on it when the actual predictors of violence are so much more fine-grained than "was the person diagnosed with a mental illness or not?".

Well, military does it, so we are on the slippery slope already.

The military also turns down many people with other illnesses that they can reasonably expect to be lifelong. And since the opportunity to serve in the military is not a constitutional right, that's fine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:gun control. gun control. gun control.

good luck with that. What reform would have prevented this?

High cost insurance requirement gun ownership.

This is also a good idea.

+1

Gun ownership + mental illness = disaster.

It is not a difficult equation to calculate.

[Anonymous]

Where is the rest of the note?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Guns made them less safe not more safe.

It's not the gun or knife, it's mental illness or pure evil. They simply find another weapon, or way to kill them.

No way they manage to kill their entire family with a knife. Without anyone escaping or disarming him. Please.

A few years ago young man from Maine managed to kill his mother, grandparents and their middle aged caregiver with a baseball bat without them being able to defend themselves and nobody survived except the young man. He’s been in a criminal mental hospital unit since, awaiting trial in Massachusetts where the killings occurred.

It isn’t that hard to kill a few people with a bat or hammer or knife if it’s a blitz attack.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Where is the rest of the note?

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Guns made them less safe not more safe.

It's not the gun or knife, it's mental illness or pure evil. They simply find another weapon, or way to kill them.

No way they manage to kill their entire family with a knife. Without anyone escaping or disarming him. Please.

A few years ago young man from Maine managed to kill his mother, grandparents and their middle aged caregiver with a baseball bat without them being able to defend themselves and nobody survived except the young man. He’s been in a criminal mental hospital unit since, awaiting trial in Massachusetts where the killings occurred.

It isn’t that hard to kill a few people with a bat or hammer or knife if it’s a blitz attack.

I've heard of quite a few cases where the adult child attacked the family while sleeping (with something other than a gun). Sadly, it can be done.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Where is the rest of the note?

+1

https://imgur.com/a/o3Stt7Q

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Where is the rest of the note?

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https://imgur.com/a/o3Stt7Q

Heartbreaking.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:An article said their murdered sister had a full ride scholarship to NYU and would be leaving in the fall. Their grandmother was just visiting. DISGUSTING, illness or no.

Not to mention the pact was made in February 2020 and was supposed to conclude in February 2020. He deliberately waited until his grandmother had flown in from Bangladesh to carry out the shooting.

What if she wanted to live and would have been perfectly happy with her remaining adult children and grand-children?

Selfish prick.

+1.
He claimed he made all his decisions 'based on logic'. What kind of f--ed-up logic is that? Why was he so sure his entire family couldn't have lived without him?
It's not just depression, the kid was a full-blown psycho. Ugh.

[Anonymous]

OR, he had depression with PSYCHOSIS.

Geez people try reading.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:gun control. gun control. gun control.

good luck with that. What reform would have prevented this?

He mentioned in his note that the gun shop owner asked his brother if he had any 'mental health issues'. The brother lied. The gun was handed over.

How about we start with that?

National database accessible by firearms sellers and updated by medical service providers with a simple read-out - you put your driver's license or ID under the scanner, you get DENIED if you're on certain prescriptions or restrictions.

And don't tell me they can't do it. I went into my local alcohol store and when carded - they had me swipe it under a non-tactile scanner.

so you want to create a national registry of anyone who has ever had mental health issues? I'm sure there will be no objections at all to that

I mean...the majority of our homeless have mental health issues, almost all of our mass shooters have had documented mental health issues (Columbine, Sandy Hook, Majory Stoneman Douglass), and most of the recent assaults against Asian americans has been by perpetrators with mental health issues.

IDK maybe we should just keep ignoring this subset of society and letting them have all the guns they want though.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4318286/

The population of people with "mental health issues" who do not commit violence is so much larger than the population that does that a registry created this way would be garbage data.

Military disqualifies based on a bunch of mental health disorders. Should be the same for gun ownership.

How about driving a car? And voting? And being allowed to have a credit card?

It's a slippery slope and there's no real reason to have such a large population of people on it when the actual predictors of violence are so much more fine-grained than "was the person diagnosed with a mental illness or not?".

Well, military does it, so we are on the slippery slope already.

The military also turns down many people with other illnesses that they can reasonably expect to be lifelong. And since the opportunity to serve in the military is not a constitutional right, that's fine.

DP
And the right to bear arms as part of a well-regulated militia is not the same as a right to walk into WalMart on your own to buy weapons for personal use.

[Anonymous]

A selfish pair of psychopaths. I wonder if they were sort of elevated as boys, because the sister getting a full scholarship and on the cusp of leaving Texas blew them out of the water. What a horrific story, and what senseless acts. Their double-suicide would have been a better choice, obviously.

[Anonymous]

It reminds me of the Tucson shooting—that young man has also been asked to leave his college due to specific concerns about violent statements made. It’s not just the mental health disorder—it’s that for this specific person, the mental health disorder is manifesting as violent tendencies.
I think some of the “red flag” laws that some states are enacting help get at this problem, but only if the educational or other institutions make a report. I bet him dad and grandmother also had an idea of what was going on, and if there had been any mechanism for them to tell the state “please don’t allow my kid to get a gun” they would have. That was true in the Tucson case—the parents were very upset that there was not a way for them to get the son on a “no purchase” list unless he was convicted of something. In most cases, the people close to them know something is wrong but we refuse to give them the tools to protect themselves or the community.

[Anonymous]

I don't think any self-respecting South Asian immigrant family would have been okay with not just one but TWO college dropouts in the family! But what is crazy is that this was orchestrated by both brothers in the family, and what are the odds that two brothers in the same family would be okay with the idea of this? It's got to be genetic. I have a long family history of mental illness and it's one of the many reasons I'm choosing to not have children.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It reminds me of the Tucson shooting—that young man has also been asked to leave his college due to specific concerns about violent statements made. It’s not just the mental health disorder—it’s that for this specific person, the mental health disorder is manifesting as violent tendencies.
I think some of the “red flag” laws that some states are enacting help get at this problem, but only if the educational or other institutions make a report. I bet him dad and grandmother also had an idea of what was going on, and if there had been any mechanism for them to tell the state “please don’t allow my kid to get a gun” they would have. That was true in the Tucson case—the parents were very upset that there was not a way for them to get the son on a “no purchase” list unless he was convicted of something. In most cases, the people close to them know something is wrong but we refuse to give them the tools to protect themselves or the community.

I don't understand why the college roommate or even the college didnt try to reach out to the family that their son planned on killing them????