NYT Op Ed from a pediatrician - again arguing against schools closures

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There is a vocal handful on these boards that clamor for school openings and quote dubious claims by people who are not pandemic experts.
We must ignore them. They are literally pushing for more deaths.

Literally every health expert thinks schools should reopen. This is not a "handful" of voices. The only ones against it are teachers' unions.

Wrong.

1. DH and I are in the field. NO ONE we know think schools should open at this time.
2. There was some talk during the summer of opening schools. At the time the nation was not in a death spiral. Pay attention to timing of interviews or articles.
3. There are certain professionals who seek media attention, and may choose to take click-bait views. Remember that they do not talk for their profession.

I agree. I don't know other health experts that want schools open...

how about the Dean of the Brown School of Medicine?

"There’s no doubt in my mind that schools need to be bolder than they’re being. "

https://www.edweek.org/ew/articles/2020/11/03/schools-need-to-be-bolder-about-reopening.html

how about the policy lab a the Children's Hospital of Pennsylvania?

"In addition to protecting children and families from the damaging health effects of this virus, it is also imperative that we continue to safely reopen society, prepare for a potential resurgence of COVID-19 this fall and winter, and address the humanitarian impacts resulting from social distancing and disruptions to caregivers’ abilities to work and youth school attendance.:

https://policylab.chop.edu/project/responding-covid-19

how about these experts published in the New England Journal of Medicine?

"We believe that safely reopening schools full-time for all elementary school children should therefore be a top national priority ... Even under conditions of moderate transmission (<10 cases per 100,000 people),12 however, we believe that primary schools should be recognized as essential services — and school personnel as essential workers — and that school reopening plans should be developed and financed accordingly."

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMms2024920

How about the medical director of Children's Hospital here in DC?

""As a pediatrician, I am really seeing the negative impacts of these school closures on children," Dr. Danielle Dooley, a medical director at Children's National Hospital in Washington, D.C., told NPR. She ticked off mental health problems, hunger, obesity due to inactivity, missing routine medical care and the risk of child abuse — on top of the loss of education. "Going to school is really vital for children. They get their meals in school, their physical activity, their health care, their education, of course."

https://www.npr.org/2020/10/21/925794511/were-the-risks-of-reopening-schools-exaggerated

How about these other experts published in JAMA?

"Given the limited resources of public schools, in the event of reopening, school districts should devote efforts to interventions that are well supported by public health officials and feasible to implement. First, mask requirements should be enforced for all staff and students for grade levels K-12 through new dress code policies. Second, districts should implement the practice of cohorting, a strategy for keeping small groups of students together, which in effect limits the exposure of students and staff to other contacts.8 Because school districts may not have the resources or budget to make extensive changes to their facilities, this practice coupled with modified scheduling could allow all students to have at least some in-person instruction each week while ensuring physical distancing. At a minimum, districts should prioritize offering in-person instruction to K-5 students, students with disabilities, students who might not be able to access remote instruction,3 and perhaps to students who were already having difficulty attaining proficiency at their grade level."

https://jamanetwork.com/channels/health-forum/fullarticle/2769782

How about this research from Europe?

"Nowhere, the research found, was there a spike that coincided with reopening: "What we found is that the school [being opened] makes absolutely no difference," Álvarez told NPR."

https://jamanetwork.com/channels/health-forum/fullarticle/2769782

As decision to not educate children for a year was not science-based, the scientifically rigorous links you have provided are not going to persuade the posters who do not want kids educated.

DL seems far more rigorous than any in person schooling that has gone in prior years. I don't understand all the fuss, nor believe people should take the rantings of Dr. Atlas seriously on COVID.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
There is a vocal handful on these boards that clamor for school openings and quote dubious claims by people who are not pandemic experts.
We must ignore them. They are literally pushing for more deaths.

Literally every health expert thinks schools should reopen. This is not a "handful" of voices. The only ones against it are teachers' unions.

Wrong.

1. DH and I are in the field. NO ONE we know think schools should open at this time.
2. There was some talk during the summer of opening schools. At the time the nation was not in a death spiral. Pay attention to timing of interviews or articles.
3. There are certain professionals who seek media attention, and may choose to take click-bait views. Remember that they do not talk for their profession.

You don't know a lot of people then. There's no way you'd find 100% consensus on keeping schools closed. You exaggerate and/or lie.

I know a lot of infectious disease doctors at Hopkins and Maryland who have been sending their kids to in person private school all fall. Not sure what field you are claiming to be in, but if it is infectious disease, you are in a very tiny minority with your opinion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/17/opinion/schools-closing-covid.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage

I couldn't agree more and am really disappointed with MCPS and their non-scientific "health metrics" which we will certainly never meet, meaning no in-person school for our kids this year.

For every nutty pediatrician that is for this there are 10 sensible ones who are against it. Printing this is just to a means to get clicks.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/17/opinion/schools-closing-covid.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage

I couldn't agree more and am really disappointed with MCPS and their non-scientific "health metrics" which we will certainly never meet, meaning no in-person school for our kids this year.

For every nutty pediatrician that is for this there are 10 sensible ones who are against it. Printing this is just to a means to get clicks.

Is Fauci nutty too ?


Is Dr. Faiuci a pandemic expert cause he says “close schools as last resort” and “keeping schools open school should be the default” https://fb.watch/1PJP9OjROz/

Is the person who is going to lead Biden coronavirus task a pandemic expert? She says open schools https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/16/health/coronavi...Dg6eiCtz3HfxD8H1W2aMiEirZ

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
There is a vocal handful on these boards that clamor for school openings and quote dubious claims by people who are not pandemic experts.
We must ignore them. They are literally pushing for more deaths.

Literally every health expert thinks schools should reopen. This is not a "handful" of voices. The only ones against it are teachers' unions.

Wrong.

1. DH and I are in the field. NO ONE we know think schools should open at this time.
2. There was some talk during the summer of opening schools. At the time the nation was not in a death spiral. Pay attention to timing of interviews or articles.
3. There are certain professionals who seek media attention, and may choose to take click-bait views. Remember that they do not talk for their profession.

You don't know a lot of people then. There's no way you'd find 100% consensus on keeping schools closed. You exaggerate and/or lie.

I know a lot of infectious disease doctors at Hopkins and Maryland who have been sending their kids to in person private school all fall. Not sure what field you are claiming to be in, but if it is infectious disease, you are in a very tiny minority with your opinion.

If they are working, it makes sense and they are at high risk jobs. They probably need the child care/support.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
There is a vocal handful on these boards that clamor for school openings and quote dubious claims by people who are not pandemic experts.
We must ignore them. They are literally pushing for more deaths.

Literally every health expert thinks schools should reopen. This is not a "handful" of voices. The only ones against it are teachers' unions.

Wrong.

1. DH and I are in the field. NO ONE we know think schools should open at this time.
2. There was some talk during the summer of opening schools. At the time the nation was not in a death spiral. Pay attention to timing of interviews or articles.
3. There are certain professionals who seek media attention, and may choose to take click-bait views. Remember that they do not talk for their profession.

You don't know a lot of people then. There's no way you'd find 100% consensus on keeping schools closed. You exaggerate and/or lie.

I know a lot of infectious disease doctors at Hopkins and Maryland who have been sending their kids to in person private school all fall. Not sure what field you are claiming to be in, but if it is infectious disease, you are in a very tiny minority with your opinion.

If they are working, it makes sense and they are at high risk jobs. They probably need the child care/support.

Do you think we all quit our jobs?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
There is a vocal handful on these boards that clamor for school openings and quote dubious claims by people who are not pandemic experts.
We must ignore them. They are literally pushing for more deaths.

Literally every health expert thinks schools should reopen. This is not a "handful" of voices. The only ones against it are teachers' unions.

Wrong.

1. DH and I are in the field. NO ONE we know think schools should open at this time.
2. There was some talk during the summer of opening schools. At the time the nation was not in a death spiral. Pay attention to timing of interviews or articles.
3. There are certain professionals who seek media attention, and may choose to take click-bait views. Remember that they do not talk for their profession.

I agree. I don't know other health experts that want schools open...

how about the Dean of the Brown School of Medicine?

"There’s no doubt in my mind that schools need to be bolder than they’re being. "

https://www.edweek.org/ew/articles/2020/11/03/schools-need-to-be-bolder-about-reopening.html

how about the policy lab a the Children's Hospital of Pennsylvania?

"In addition to protecting children and families from the damaging health effects of this virus, it is also imperative that we continue to safely reopen society, prepare for a potential resurgence of COVID-19 this fall and winter, and address the humanitarian impacts resulting from social distancing and disruptions to caregivers’ abilities to work and youth school attendance.:

https://policylab.chop.edu/project/responding-covid-19

how about these experts published in the New England Journal of Medicine?

"We believe that safely reopening schools full-time for all elementary school children should therefore be a top national priority ... Even under conditions of moderate transmission (<10 cases per 100,000 people),12 however, we believe that primary schools should be recognized as essential services — and school personnel as essential workers — and that school reopening plans should be developed and financed accordingly."

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMms2024920

How about the medical director of Children's Hospital here in DC?

""As a pediatrician, I am really seeing the negative impacts of these school closures on children," Dr. Danielle Dooley, a medical director at Children's National Hospital in Washington, D.C., told NPR. She ticked off mental health problems, hunger, obesity due to inactivity, missing routine medical care and the risk of child abuse — on top of the loss of education. "Going to school is really vital for children. They get their meals in school, their physical activity, their health care, their education, of course."

https://www.npr.org/2020/10/21/925794511/were-the-risks-of-reopening-schools-exaggerated

How about these other experts published in JAMA?

"Given the limited resources of public schools, in the event of reopening, school districts should devote efforts to interventions that are well supported by public health officials and feasible to implement. First, mask requirements should be enforced for all staff and students for grade levels K-12 through new dress code policies. Second, districts should implement the practice of cohorting, a strategy for keeping small groups of students together, which in effect limits the exposure of students and staff to other contacts.8 Because school districts may not have the resources or budget to make extensive changes to their facilities, this practice coupled with modified scheduling could allow all students to have at least some in-person instruction each week while ensuring physical distancing. At a minimum, districts should prioritize offering in-person instruction to K-5 students, students with disabilities, students who might not be able to access remote instruction,3 and perhaps to students who were already having difficulty attaining proficiency at their grade level."

https://jamanetwork.com/channels/health-forum/fullarticle/2769782

How about this research from Europe?

"Nowhere, the research found, was there a spike that coincided with reopening: "What we found is that the school [being opened] makes absolutely no difference," Álvarez told NPR."

https://jamanetwork.com/channels/health-forum/fullarticle/2769782

As decision to not educate children for a year was not science-based, the scientifically rigorous links you have provided are not going to persuade the posters who do not want kids educated.

They ARE educating our kids. It just looks different than years past. For us, DL has been far better than in person.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
There is a vocal handful on these boards that clamor for school openings and quote dubious claims by people who are not pandemic experts.
We must ignore them. They are literally pushing for more deaths.

Literally every health expert thinks schools should reopen. This is not a "handful" of voices. The only ones against it are teachers' unions.

Wrong.

1. DH and I are in the field. NO ONE we know think schools should open at this time.
2. There was some talk during the summer of opening schools. At the time the nation was not in a death spiral. Pay attention to timing of interviews or articles.
3. There are certain professionals who seek media attention, and may choose to take click-bait views. Remember that they do not talk for their profession.

I agree. I don't know other health experts that want schools open...

How many health experts do you know?

What field are you in corn or something else? We will come help you find your way home.

It's the research scientist with a background in virology, I'm guessing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/17/opinion/schools-closing-covid.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage

I couldn't agree more and am really disappointed with MCPS and their non-scientific "health metrics" which we will certainly never meet, meaning no in-person school for our kids this year.

For every nutty pediatrician that is for this there are 10 sensible ones who are against it. Printing this is just to a means to get clicks.

For every 10 "sensible" ones, there are 100 qualified ones that think that it's imperative that kids be in the classroom. See, I can make stuff up too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
There is a vocal handful on these boards that clamor for school openings and quote dubious claims by people who are not pandemic experts.
We must ignore them. They are literally pushing for more deaths.

Literally every health expert thinks schools should reopen. This is not a "handful" of voices. The only ones against it are teachers' unions.

Wrong.

1. DH and I are in the field. NO ONE we know think schools should open at this time.
2. There was some talk during the summer of opening schools. At the time the nation was not in a death spiral. Pay attention to timing of interviews or articles.
3. There are certain professionals who seek media attention, and may choose to take click-bait views. Remember that they do not talk for their profession.

I agree. I don't know other health experts that want schools open...

how about the Dean of the Brown School of Medicine?

"There’s no doubt in my mind that schools need to be bolder than they’re being. "

https://www.edweek.org/ew/articles/2020/11/03/schools-need-to-be-bolder-about-reopening.html

how about the policy lab a the Children's Hospital of Pennsylvania?

"In addition to protecting children and families from the damaging health effects of this virus, it is also imperative that we continue to safely reopen society, prepare for a potential resurgence of COVID-19 this fall and winter, and address the humanitarian impacts resulting from social distancing and disruptions to caregivers’ abilities to work and youth school attendance.:

https://policylab.chop.edu/project/responding-covid-19

how about these experts published in the New England Journal of Medicine?

"We believe that safely reopening schools full-time for all elementary school children should therefore be a top national priority ... Even under conditions of moderate transmission (<10 cases per 100,000 people),12 however, we believe that primary schools should be recognized as essential services — and school personnel as essential workers — and that school reopening plans should be developed and financed accordingly."

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMms2024920

How about the medical director of Children's Hospital here in DC?

""As a pediatrician, I am really seeing the negative impacts of these school closures on children," Dr. Danielle Dooley, a medical director at Children's National Hospital in Washington, D.C., told NPR. She ticked off mental health problems, hunger, obesity due to inactivity, missing routine medical care and the risk of child abuse — on top of the loss of education. "Going to school is really vital for children. They get their meals in school, their physical activity, their health care, their education, of course."

https://www.npr.org/2020/10/21/925794511/were-the-risks-of-reopening-schools-exaggerated

How about these other experts published in JAMA?

"Given the limited resources of public schools, in the event of reopening, school districts should devote efforts to interventions that are well supported by public health officials and feasible to implement. First, mask requirements should be enforced for all staff and students for grade levels K-12 through new dress code policies. Second, districts should implement the practice of cohorting, a strategy for keeping small groups of students together, which in effect limits the exposure of students and staff to other contacts.8 Because school districts may not have the resources or budget to make extensive changes to their facilities, this practice coupled with modified scheduling could allow all students to have at least some in-person instruction each week while ensuring physical distancing. At a minimum, districts should prioritize offering in-person instruction to K-5 students, students with disabilities, students who might not be able to access remote instruction,3 and perhaps to students who were already having difficulty attaining proficiency at their grade level."

https://jamanetwork.com/channels/health-forum/fullarticle/2769782

How about this research from Europe?

"Nowhere, the research found, was there a spike that coincided with reopening: "What we found is that the school [being opened] makes absolutely no difference," Álvarez told NPR."

https://jamanetwork.com/channels/health-forum/fullarticle/2769782

As decision to not educate children for a year was not science-based, the scientifically rigorous links you have provided are not going to persuade the posters who do not want kids educated.

They ARE educating our kids. It just looks different than years past. For us, DL has been far better than in person.

They're going through the motions. As to DL being far better for you than in person...BFD.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
There is a vocal handful on these boards that clamor for school openings and quote dubious claims by people who are not pandemic experts.
We must ignore them. They are literally pushing for more deaths.

Literally every health expert thinks schools should reopen. This is not a "handful" of voices. The only ones against it are teachers' unions.

Wrong.

1. DH and I are in the field. NO ONE we know think schools should open at this time.
2. There was some talk during the summer of opening schools. At the time the nation was not in a death spiral. Pay attention to timing of interviews or articles.
3. There are certain professionals who seek media attention, and may choose to take click-bait views. Remember that they do not talk for their profession.

I agree. I don't know other health experts that want schools open...

how about the Dean of the Brown School of Medicine?

"There’s no doubt in my mind that schools need to be bolder than they’re being. "

https://www.edweek.org/ew/articles/2020/11/03/schools-need-to-be-bolder-about-reopening.html

how about the policy lab a the Children's Hospital of Pennsylvania?

"In addition to protecting children and families from the damaging health effects of this virus, it is also imperative that we continue to safely reopen society, prepare for a potential resurgence of COVID-19 this fall and winter, and address the humanitarian impacts resulting from social distancing and disruptions to caregivers’ abilities to work and youth school attendance.:

https://policylab.chop.edu/project/responding-covid-19

how about these experts published in the New England Journal of Medicine?

"We believe that safely reopening schools full-time for all elementary school children should therefore be a top national priority ... Even under conditions of moderate transmission (<10 cases per 100,000 people),12 however, we believe that primary schools should be recognized as essential services — and school personnel as essential workers — and that school reopening plans should be developed and financed accordingly."

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMms2024920

How about the medical director of Children's Hospital here in DC?

""As a pediatrician, I am really seeing the negative impacts of these school closures on children," Dr. Danielle Dooley, a medical director at Children's National Hospital in Washington, D.C., told NPR. She ticked off mental health problems, hunger, obesity due to inactivity, missing routine medical care and the risk of child abuse — on top of the loss of education. "Going to school is really vital for children. They get their meals in school, their physical activity, their health care, their education, of course."

https://www.npr.org/2020/10/21/925794511/were-the-risks-of-reopening-schools-exaggerated

How about these other experts published in JAMA?

"Given the limited resources of public schools, in the event of reopening, school districts should devote efforts to interventions that are well supported by public health officials and feasible to implement. First, mask requirements should be enforced for all staff and students for grade levels K-12 through new dress code policies. Second, districts should implement the practice of cohorting, a strategy for keeping small groups of students together, which in effect limits the exposure of students and staff to other contacts.8 Because school districts may not have the resources or budget to make extensive changes to their facilities, this practice coupled with modified scheduling could allow all students to have at least some in-person instruction each week while ensuring physical distancing. At a minimum, districts should prioritize offering in-person instruction to K-5 students, students with disabilities, students who might not be able to access remote instruction,3 and perhaps to students who were already having difficulty attaining proficiency at their grade level."

https://jamanetwork.com/channels/health-forum/fullarticle/2769782

How about this research from Europe?

"Nowhere, the research found, was there a spike that coincided with reopening: "What we found is that the school [being opened] makes absolutely no difference," Álvarez told NPR."

https://jamanetwork.com/channels/health-forum/fullarticle/2769782

As decision to not educate children for a year was not science-based, the scientifically rigorous links you have provided are not going to persuade the posters who do not want kids educated.

They ARE educating our kids. It just looks different than years past. For us, DL has been far better than in person.

They're going through the motions. As to DL being far better for you than in person...BFD.

The quality of the teacher is the most important thing to us. A good teacher will teach well in any format. We've had some really crappy teachers in years past. This year we've had much better teachers so DL is better. Our children are happy with it and have no issue with it continuing. You need to find a way to make it work as its here to stay for a while.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
There is a vocal handful on these boards that clamor for school openings and quote dubious claims by people who are not pandemic experts.
We must ignore them. They are literally pushing for more deaths.

Do you also complain that people who want restaurants and other non-essential activities to stay open are pushing for more deaths?

There are so few complaints about it that I don't come across them. The crazies are all focused on schools. Nothing inside should be open except essential services. Education and entertainment are not essential in a pandemic.

OP here. I disagree. I think education is essential but not entertainment. And I believe that DL ain’t “education”. Kids need to be with their peers learning in classrooms. And kids are depressed, anxious and suicidal in greater numbers. So- not learning plus poor mental health.

For the PP who said this was just some nutty pediatrician- Fauci says the same thing, as does my children’s pediatrician in Silver Spring.

History is going to judge us harshly for how we put the burden of this pandemic on our kids’ backs. I’m not a Trumper and I used to be a huge supporter of teachers and their unions. That support is wavering.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
There is a vocal handful on these boards that clamor for school openings and quote dubious claims by people who are not pandemic experts.
We must ignore them. They are literally pushing for more deaths.

Literally every health expert thinks schools should reopen. This is not a "handful" of voices. The only ones against it are teachers' unions.

Wrong.

1. DH and I are in the field. NO ONE we know think schools should open at this time.
2. There was some talk during the summer of opening schools. At the time the nation was not in a death spiral. Pay attention to timing of interviews or articles.
3. There are certain professionals who seek media attention, and may choose to take click-bait views. Remember that they do not talk for their profession.

I agree. I don't know other health experts that want schools open...

how about the Dean of the Brown School of Medicine?

"There’s no doubt in my mind that schools need to be bolder than they’re being. "

https://www.edweek.org/ew/articles/2020/11/03/schools-need-to-be-bolder-about-reopening.html

how about the policy lab a the Children's Hospital of Pennsylvania?

"In addition to protecting children and families from the damaging health effects of this virus, it is also imperative that we continue to safely reopen society, prepare for a potential resurgence of COVID-19 this fall and winter, and address the humanitarian impacts resulting from social distancing and disruptions to caregivers’ abilities to work and youth school attendance.:

https://policylab.chop.edu/project/responding-covid-19

how about these experts published in the New England Journal of Medicine?

"We believe that safely reopening schools full-time for all elementary school children should therefore be a top national priority ... Even under conditions of moderate transmission (<10 cases per 100,000 people),12 however, we believe that primary schools should be recognized as essential services — and school personnel as essential workers — and that school reopening plans should be developed and financed accordingly."

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMms2024920

How about the medical director of Children's Hospital here in DC?

""As a pediatrician, I am really seeing the negative impacts of these school closures on children," Dr. Danielle Dooley, a medical director at Children's National Hospital in Washington, D.C., told NPR. She ticked off mental health problems, hunger, obesity due to inactivity, missing routine medical care and the risk of child abuse — on top of the loss of education. "Going to school is really vital for children. They get their meals in school, their physical activity, their health care, their education, of course."

https://www.npr.org/2020/10/21/925794511/were-the-risks-of-reopening-schools-exaggerated

How about these other experts published in JAMA?

"Given the limited resources of public schools, in the event of reopening, school districts should devote efforts to interventions that are well supported by public health officials and feasible to implement. First, mask requirements should be enforced for all staff and students for grade levels K-12 through new dress code policies. Second, districts should implement the practice of cohorting, a strategy for keeping small groups of students together, which in effect limits the exposure of students and staff to other contacts.8 Because school districts may not have the resources or budget to make extensive changes to their facilities, this practice coupled with modified scheduling could allow all students to have at least some in-person instruction each week while ensuring physical distancing. At a minimum, districts should prioritize offering in-person instruction to K-5 students, students with disabilities, students who might not be able to access remote instruction,3 and perhaps to students who were already having difficulty attaining proficiency at their grade level."

https://jamanetwork.com/channels/health-forum/fullarticle/2769782

How about this research from Europe?

"Nowhere, the research found, was there a spike that coincided with reopening: "What we found is that the school [being opened] makes absolutely no difference," Álvarez told NPR."

https://jamanetwork.com/channels/health-forum/fullarticle/2769782

As decision to not educate children for a year was not science-based, the scientifically rigorous links you have provided are not going to persuade the posters who do not want kids educated.

They ARE educating our kids. It just looks different than years past. For us, DL has been far better than in person.

They're going through the motions. As to DL being far better for you than in person...BFD.

The quality of the teacher is the most important thing to us. A good teacher will teach well in any format. We've had some really crappy teachers in years past. This year we've had much better teachers so DL is better. Our children are happy with it and have no issue with it continuing. You need to find a way to make it work as its here to stay for a while.

So DL is not better. Your teachers are better. I mean, what's your point?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
There is a vocal handful on these boards that clamor for school openings and quote dubious claims by people who are not pandemic experts.
We must ignore them. They are literally pushing for more deaths.

Literally every health expert thinks schools should reopen. This is not a "handful" of voices. The only ones against it are teachers' unions.

Wrong.

1. DH and I are in the field. NO ONE we know think schools should open at this time.
2. There was some talk during the summer of opening schools. At the time the nation was not in a death spiral. Pay attention to timing of interviews or articles.
3. There are certain professionals who seek media attention, and may choose to take click-bait views. Remember that they do not talk for their profession.

I agree. I don't know other health experts that want schools open...

How many health experts do you know?

What field are you in corn or something else? We will come help you find your way home.

It's the research scientist with a background in virology, I'm guessing.

More like a lab tech in a virology lab. How’s that centrifuging coming?

[Anonymous]

Here's what one of Biden's advisors had to say on schools. This is from Dr. Céline Gounder, an infectious disease specialist at Bellevue Hospital Center and assistant professor at the New York University Grossman School of Medicine. Does it seem like this is how MCPS is thinking about the challenges of reopening?

If you have widespread community transmission, there may come a tipping point where you do need to go back to virtual schooling. But I think the priority is to try to keep schools open as much as possible, and to provide the resources for that to happen.

From an epidemiologic perspective, we know that the highest-risk settings are restaurants, bars, gyms, nail salons and also indoor gatherings — social gatherings and private settings.

I would consider school an essential service. Those other things are not essential services. The smarter we are about being very responsive to trends in transmission — to closing indoor restaurants sooner — the longer you’re likely to be able to keep schools open.

We know that the risk of transmission in schools is not zero, but they’re not amplifying transmission the way some of these other places are.

We need to be supporting those businesses, whether it’s the restaurant owners and the people working in those restaurants, because it is not fair that they are bearing a very heavy brunt of the economic fallout from this.