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Reply to "NYT Op Ed from a pediatrician - again arguing against schools closures"
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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous] There is a vocal handful on these boards that clamor for school openings and quote dubious claims by people who are not pandemic experts. We must ignore them. They are literally pushing for more deaths. [/quote] Literally every health expert thinks schools should reopen. This is not a "handful" of voices. The only ones against it are teachers' unions. [/quote] Wrong. 1. DH and I are in the field. NO ONE we know think schools should open at this time. 2. There was some talk during the summer of opening schools. At the time the nation was not in a death spiral. Pay attention to timing of interviews or articles. 3. There are certain professionals who seek media attention, and may choose to take click-bait views. Remember that they do not talk for their profession. [/quote] I agree. I don't know other health experts that want schools open... [/quote] how about the Dean of the Brown School of Medicine? "There’s no doubt in my mind that schools need to be bolder than they’re being. " https://www.edweek.org/ew/articles/2020/11/03/schools-need-to-be-bolder-about-reopening.html how about the policy lab a the Children's Hospital of Pennsylvania? "In addition to protecting children and families from the damaging health effects of this virus, it is also imperative that we continue to safely reopen society, prepare for a potential resurgence of COVID-19 this fall and winter, and address the humanitarian impacts resulting from social distancing and disruptions to caregivers’ abilities to work and youth school attendance.: https://policylab.chop.edu/project/responding-covid-19 how about these experts published in the New England Journal of Medicine? "We believe that safely reopening schools full-time for all elementary school children should therefore be a top national priority ... Even under conditions of moderate transmission (<10 cases per 100,000 people),12 however, we believe that primary schools should be recognized as essential services — and school personnel as essential workers — and that school reopening plans should be developed and financed accordingly." https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMms2024920 How about the medical director of Children's Hospital here in DC? ""As a pediatrician, I am really seeing the negative impacts of these school closures on children," Dr. Danielle Dooley, a medical director at Children's National Hospital in Washington, D.C., told NPR. She ticked off mental health problems, hunger, obesity due to inactivity, missing routine medical care and the risk of child abuse — on top of the loss of education. "Going to school is really vital for children. They get their meals in school, their physical activity, their health care, their education, of course." https://www.npr.org/2020/10/21/925794511/were-the-risks-of-reopening-schools-exaggerated How about these other experts published in JAMA? "Given the limited resources of public schools, in the event of reopening, school districts should devote efforts to interventions that are well supported by public health officials and feasible to implement. First, mask requirements should be enforced for all staff and students for grade levels K-12 through new dress code policies. Second, districts should implement the practice of cohorting, a strategy for keeping small groups of students together, which in effect limits the exposure of students and staff to other contacts.8 Because school districts may not have the resources or budget to make extensive changes to their facilities, this practice coupled with modified scheduling could allow all students to have at least some in-person instruction each week while ensuring physical distancing. At a minimum, districts should prioritize offering in-person instruction to K-5 students, students with disabilities, students who might not be able to access remote instruction,3 and perhaps to students who were already having difficulty attaining proficiency at their grade level." https://jamanetwork.com/channels/health-forum/fullarticle/2769782 How about this research from Europe? "Nowhere, the research found, was there a spike that coincided with reopening: "What we found is that the school [being opened] makes absolutely no difference," Álvarez told NPR." https://jamanetwork.com/channels/health-forum/fullarticle/2769782 [/quote] As decision to not educate children for a year was not science-based, the scientifically rigorous links you have provided are not going to persuade the posters who do not want kids educated.[/quote] DL seems far more rigorous than any in person schooling that has gone in prior years. I don't understand all the fuss, nor believe people should take the rantings of Dr. Atlas seriously on COVID.[/quote]
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