Looting DC tonight

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Anonymous wrote:The looting is really damaging the cause. You can tell your kids all kinds of enlightened things, but what they see on the nightly news is young African American males violently shattering glass & stealing. The looting needs to end.

Do you show them the young white males breaking windows and stealing, too? Because I've seen plenty of that on the news and on my FB/Twitter feed, all over the country. When you see that, do you think less of white people?

I suppose racists will find what they are looking for, though.

The curfew doesn't stop looting. Police can still arrest looters. Maybe if they aren't busy harassing peaceful protesters, they'll have more personnel to maintain order in shopping areas.

Here's video of the Friendship Heights CVS looting:
https://wjla.com/news/local/video-friendship-heights-cvs-robbed-looted-during-protests

Not a lot of white people there.

Yep, just like previous riots. Anyone who is over 40 isn't suprised by any of this. Everyone I know feels horribly for George Floyd, but the empathy pretty much stops there. This could have been a great cause.

If your understanding is distracted so easily then it’s obviously a cause you were never behind to begin with so it ain’t like shit has changed for you.

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When they rebuild they need better windows and built in protection like roll down covers of metal.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The looting is really damaging the cause. You can tell your kids all kinds of enlightened things, but what they see on the nightly news is young African American males violently shattering glass & stealing. The looting needs to end.

Do you show them the young white males breaking windows and stealing, too? Because I've seen plenty of that on the news and on my FB/Twitter feed, all over the country. When you see that, do you think less of white people?

I suppose racists will find what they are looking for, though.

The curfew doesn't stop looting. Police can still arrest looters. Maybe if they aren't busy harassing peaceful protesters, they'll have more personnel to maintain order in shopping areas.

Here's video of the Friendship Heights CVS looting:
https://wjla.com/news/local/video-friendship-heights-cvs-robbed-looted-during-protests

Not a lot of white people there.

Yep, just like previous riots. Anyone who is over 40 isn't suprised by any of this. Everyone I know feels horribly for George Floyd, but the empathy pretty much stops there. This could have been a great cause.

"If only 100% of Black people were law-abiding 100% of the time THEN we will support justice for them."


Do you realize how awful that is? You might benefit from putting DCUM down (sorry Jeff) and working on yourself. Here's a good site to start:

https://nmaahc.si.edu/learn/talking-about-race

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Anonymous wrote:When they rebuild they need better windows and built in protection like roll down covers of metal.

Or how about, people don't loot?

No one deserves to be raped, and if someone points out the victim was walking along in a dangerous part of town, the response is not to victim-blame them. They should have a right to walk around without getting raped (I agree).

So how about a store owner has a right to build their store and not have to install metal covers to prevent against looting?

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I don’t understand this thread. It hurts my head.

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Anonymous wrote:Over the weekend, I ran into a middle-aged AA man outside a neighborhood store that had been vandalized the night before. He was angry and upset by both the police brutality and the vandalism. And he supported the protestors. But I suppose you would say he couldn’t possibly hold all those opinions at the same time?

Over the weekend, I ran into an older AA man who said you made up your story.

So you believe every AA person believes what you believe and reacts they way you think they should?

Yes of course, PP does. So do many people. This is why we have a problem in America.

I have seen so many people post about how upset they are about the looting. OK. Looting is not good, objectively, but really?
I have seen -- honestly, I think don't think I have seen any -- almost no posts about people who have first hand experience at being at a protest the week, for any duration. I get why you wouldn't go due to COVID, I get that. It is risky, but meaningful to many.

I think DCUM is unfortunately filled with more people who live .25 - 3 miles from the looted areas (which were a lot of places) and got real real nervous the past few nights as a CVS within an 8 minute walk of their house got looted. I think people decided that affected them more than the whole situation with systemic violence against black people. Because it does, actually. Their neighborhood CVS, where they buy a late night pint of Ben and Jerry's and paper towels and that cheap $19.99 anti-aging cream that works really well, being boarded up and closed for a while, and the fear that surrounds that, is more impactful to them than what the protests are all about. So that's what they shout about.

Feeling that is uncomfortable, but not doing anything about it to snap out of that frame and address the empathetic view is more detrimental. And guess what? It will lead to more looting.

Riots destroy cities for decades. We've seen how this movie ends, and it's not with the CVS getting repaired and everything going back to normal. People who are thinking about where to start businesses don't pick the place that got burned down last year. People who have choices about where to live don't pick that area, either. And when the next set of elections come around, fewer people want to vote for the party associated - fairly or not - with burning down police stations. This isn't about the CVS down my street getting looted, although if I were someone without a car who got my prescriptions there I don't think I'd be going "but really?" about it. It's about seeing a massive abdication of responsibility on the part of local leaders to keep their cities intact, with encouragement from a lot of people who should know better.

You realize looting and riots are not the same thing, right? We have not had riots here this week. Where have there been riots?

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand this thread. It hurts my head.

Nothing to stress about. Folks wanna demonize Black people as a whole like always.

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Anonymous wrote:When they rebuild they need better windows and built in protection like roll down covers of metal.

Or, hurricane.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand this thread. It hurts my head.

Nothing to stress about. Folks wanna demonize Black people as a whole like always.

Not all looters are black.

Only a tiny percentage of protesters have been violent.

Not all cops are bad.

Not all whites are racist.

I'm sorry people have been so insensitive to the message the black community is trying to express right now.

I'm listening.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand this thread. It hurts my head.

Nothing to stress about. Folks wanna demonize Black people as a whole like always.

Not all looters are black.

Only a tiny percentage of protesters have been violent.

Not all cops are bad.

Not all whites are racist.

I'm sorry people have been so insensitive to the message the black community is trying to express right now.

I'm listening.

Much appreciated departure from the normal back-and-forth.
Thank you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There WAS a curfew on Sunday - 11pm. Did not work to calm things down. The last two nights have been better with a 7pm curfew, but that is really too early and hurts restaurants and cuts protests too early.

Couldn’t Bowser try a 9pm curfew? Why do early or so Late?

Curfews need to be before sunset. That is how the psychology of these things works. It is a lot easier to set the control features of a curfew up during the day and people get tired after dark. If we were in Sweden and it was light until midnight, you could successfully set the curfew up for midnight. What is VERY hard is imposing the curfew after the madness starts.

Look, last night was a win for everybody . Protestors get to say that they defied curfew. Authorities get to say that for the first time there was no looting. Both sides get to pat themselves on the back for there being no violence. I am not sure why we are looking that gift horse in the mouth. But we are so determined to make a Trump story about this, the city has opted to shoot itself in the foot. For once I wish that DC would do what was best for DC.

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Anonymous wrote:Seriously folks what world is it that two wrongs make a right? So this OPs business deserves to be vandalized and destroyed? WTF kind of world do you live in? All of it is wrong. You can't pick and choose the violence. It's all wrong.

I agree. Looting takes away from the real problem.

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Anonymous wrote:Seriously folks what world is it that two wrongs make a right? So this OPs business deserves to be vandalized and destroyed? WTF kind of world do you live in? All of it is wrong. You can't pick and choose the violence. It's all wrong.

I agree. Looting takes away from the real problem.

I think the police murdering people takes away from the real problem more. Be mad at them for abusing their power.

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Anonymous wrote:Seriously folks what world is it that two wrongs make a right? So this OPs business deserves to be vandalized and destroyed? WTF kind of world do you live in? All of it is wrong. You can't pick and choose the violence. It's all wrong.

I agree. Looting takes away from the real problem.

I think the police murdering people takes away from the real problem more. Be mad at them for abusing their power.

We can be mad at both.

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Anonymous wrote:Seriously folks what world is it that two wrongs make a right? So this OPs business deserves to be vandalized and destroyed? WTF kind of world do you live in? All of it is wrong. You can't pick and choose the violence. It's all wrong.

I agree. Looting takes away from the real problem.

I think the police murdering people takes away from the real problem more. Be mad at them for abusing their power.

We can be mad at both.

Yes, I'm also mad about a number of other things. Murder of citizens by police is much much higher than property damage. Agreed?