Looting DC tonight

[Anonymous]

Seriously folks what world is it that two wrongs make a right? So this OPs business deserves to be vandalized and destroyed? WTF kind of world do you live in? All of it is wrong. You can't pick and choose the violence. It's all wrong.

[Anonymous]

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What an angry thread. Did you board your windows, OP? If so, you should be fine.

Um, they are just prying the boards off with tools. Duh. We are in a state of total lawless anarchy.

Is this OP? Are they right now trying to pry off the plywood you installed? Call the police.

If you’re talking in general, and you fear it will happen to you, use twice the amount of fasteners even if you think it won’t look good later when you take it off. Vandalism and theft are mostly crimes of opportunity - make it harder for them!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How much looting was there last night? There was a curfew that was ignored, but police didn't attack the protestors. See the difference?

How about the business community line up against police brutality.

So the police attacking protestors caused the CVS in Friendship Heights to be looted?

Did a curfew prevent it?

There was no curfew on that night (Sunday).

The benefit of a curfew is police can arrest people for just being out without a purpose, even if they aren't actively looting. Otherwise, they need to see them do it, and manage to catch them.

It's a deterrent -- looters are less likely to be roaming around if they know that alone makes them subject to arrest.

[Anonymous]

I looked for the mayors office phone number to complain about the kate curfew, but could only find a very cumbersome comment form. Can someone post it?

[Anonymous]

The mayor doesn't care what you think. The number you need to look for is the $ amount you're donating to her and her proxies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How much looting was there last night? There was a curfew that was ignored, but police didn't attack the protestors. See the difference?

How about the business community line up against police brutality.

So the police attacking protestors caused the CVS in Friendship Heights to be looted?

This was on the first night. All other nights have been calm. I live in FH.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How much looting was there last night? There was a curfew that was ignored, but police didn't attack the protestors. See the difference?

How about the business community line up against police brutality.

So the police attacking protestors caused the CVS in Friendship Heights to be looted?

Did a curfew prevent it?

That was Sunday. Pre curfew. So using your logic, the curfew is working. 7PM curfew's and no looting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Any idiot that says “insurance will cover it” also thinks “the government” should pay for their healthcare.

Actually, they are just ignorant of how insurance works. If the looting is regular or implicitly allowed, the owners will not be able to get insurance in the future. This has huge implications for the mortgage market too (which relies on a working insurance market). Basically, every aspect of our economy is built on the premise of law and order.

[Anonymous]

Also, looting creates a situation where people defend their property with guns. There is OVERWHELMING demand for guns right now. Marketplace did a segment on roaring gun stocks this morning. If you care about gun control, you should understand the implications of lawlessness. People will simply take the law into their own hands - and there will be widespread sympathy for that. This implicit sanctioning of looting is unacceptable.

[Anonymous]

I thought folks were itching for the stay-at-home orders to be lifted and crying for things to open up. Now you saying y'all WANT to be locked down some more?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I thought folks were itching for the stay-at-home orders to be lifted and crying for things to open up. Now you saying y'all WANT to be locked down some more?

I’m in favor of normal business hours. Currently, all cvs stores in the district can be entered through broken windows 24/7.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I thought folks were itching for the stay-at-home orders to be lifted and crying for things to open up. Now you saying y'all WANT to be locked down some more?

I’d like the business owners to be able to open without having to spend another few weeks fixing damage and replacing stock. One or two nights of curfew is better than a week or two of repair work. Not to mention the cost.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Over the weekend, I ran into a middle-aged AA man outside a neighborhood store that had been vandalized the night before. He was angry and upset by both the police brutality and the vandalism. And he supported the protestors. But I suppose you would say he couldn’t possibly hold all those opinions at the same time?

Over the weekend, I ran into an older AA man who said you made up your story.

So you believe every AA person believes what you believe and reacts they way you think they should?

Yes of course, PP does. So do many people. This is why we have a problem in America.

I have seen so many people post about how upset they are about the looting. OK. Looting is not good, objectively, but really?
I have seen -- honestly, I think don't think I have seen any -- almost no posts about people who have first hand experience at being at a protest the week, for any duration. I get why you wouldn't go due to COVID, I get that. It is risky, but meaningful to many.

I think DCUM is unfortunately filled with more people who live .25 - 3 miles from the looted areas (which were a lot of places) and got real real nervous the past few nights as a CVS within an 8 minute walk of their house got looted. I think people decided that affected them more than the whole situation with systemic violence against black people. Because it does, actually. Their neighborhood CVS, where they buy a late night pint of Ben and Jerry's and paper towels and that cheap $19.99 anti-aging cream that works really well, being boarded up and closed for a while, and the fear that surrounds that, is more impactful to them than what the protests are all about. So that's what they shout about.

Feeling that is uncomfortable, but not doing anything about it to snap out of that frame and address the empathetic view is more detrimental. And guess what? It will lead to more looting.

[Anonymous]

So we should just continue to have cops murder black men because some people might loot during a protest?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The looting is really damaging the cause. You can tell your kids all kinds of enlightened things, but what they see on the nightly news is young African American males violently shattering glass & stealing. The looting needs to end.

This is a good point: "What should I believe: your enlightened words, or my own eyes?"

Unfortunately, the MPD Twitter feed -- with nearly identical "lookouts" week after month after year -- fuels the same sort of cognitive dissonance.