Women enslaved to their sons.

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Anonymous wrote:I have 2 mid 20's boys. Both graduated from college and beyond and live out of the house. I think work ethic needs to start YOUNG. My kids worked a summer job from around age 15 and always worked summers while in college. My DH and I paid for college, but all extras were on them. I was a SAHM so we never outsourced much. Cue: Your dad is traveling this week so you need to mow the lawn and they always had indoor cleaning chores. I am baffled when parents don't expect their kids to work a summer job or have chores in the house.

OP: Regarding the kids you speak about, who is bankrolling their lifestyle? Is Dad in the picture?

Really now? Mid 20s are men not boys. Stop infantilizing your sons.

DP. My boys will always be my boys. So will my girls.

No matter what you say, they are men and women unless your “girls” are under 18.
I have two girls 7 and 1. THEY ARE GIRLS. and one day they will be women.

It’s fine if you are WASPY and not close to your family but some people are close. No reason to put it down.

We are actually very close, but we also know the difference between a baby, toddler, young child, tween, teen, and adult. As well as female/male child.

So what if I say "my boys are coming over for Thanksgiving" and you say "my men are coming over for Thanksgiving"... It's not better, your expression sounds weird to me, mine sounds weird to you.

different strokes.

Gtfoh. That is not what I meant and you know it. At the end of the day they are all men. And by the way I would never say that as my girls are 1 and 7. Now go sleep with your “boys” and don’t forget to give them their binkie and blankie.

Conversely you knew exactly what the OP meant when she said “boys”. At the end of the day they are our boys who are men and also our sons. There is no 1 way to say it that is right.

Now go work on those mean girl tactics and teach your women children how to sharpen their claws.

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Anonymous wrote:I am the pp who called her sons boys? My mistake, sorry this thread took THE TURN.

You just made me laugh, so it’s all good.

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Most mothers are creating entitled boys. Why?

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Anonymous wrote:He is 28, dumbass. Not 38.

Apologies - he's 28. Better but long past the age he should have flown the nest.

I’m the poster of this comment. He can fly the nest anytime he wants. There is no strict expectation on him or any other kids to stay with family but there is no judgment on them if they choose to stay. We like his company and he likes ours. It’s also very nice to have another adult available in the house. When he flies the nest, he will be able to get a nice one of his own due to all the money he saved on account of not having to pay rent. He’s a responsible young man and helps us so we don’t mind helping him. It’s entirely his voice.

On the flip side, my DH at 28 had a law degree, a wife, a lovely townhome, and a baby on the way. Your son is not much of a catch living at home.

No one is competing with your DH on who marries the earliest.

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My husband has a childhood friend like this. He plays video games and is very withdrawn and seldom responds to any phone/text/contact. Doesn't have a job and lives of his dad's largesse. We suspect some kind of undiagnosed mental ilness

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Anonymous wrote:He is 28, dumbass. Not 38.

Apologies - he's 28. Better but long past the age he should have flown the nest.

I’m the poster of this comment. He can fly the nest anytime he wants. There is no strict expectation on him or any other kids to stay with family but there is no judgment on them if they choose to stay. We like his company and he likes ours. It’s also very nice to have another adult available in the house. When he flies the nest, he will be able to get a nice one of his own due to all the money he saved on account of not having to pay rent. He’s a responsible young man and helps us so we don’t mind helping him. It’s entirely his voice.

On the flip side, my DH at 28 had a law degree, a wife, a lovely townhome, and a baby on the way. Your son is not much of a catch living at home.

+1

What about you? Working or living off of DH?

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Anonymous wrote:My next door neighbors have a failure to launch son. He has a good job, but doesn't appear to have any social life outside of his parents. They finally got him to move out on his own last year but he's still at their house for the entire weekend, every weekend. He is in his early 30s. No sign of a girlfriend/boyfriend or even one friend. If my neighbors have plans or are just out and about, the son still comes and just sits at the house by himself.

Who pays this much attention to what a neighbor's son is doing...

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yeah 10:32, it's pretty creepy that you would know all that, have noticed, and think it's important to report on it.

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Anonymous wrote:The feminization of our culture in which men have no value
Bring back the draft and make men enter the
Military to learn how to become responsible human beings.

So, it's "culture's" fault that parents don't expect their kids to grow the hell up?

I have 3 sons and will consider myself a failure as a parent if they don't grow up to build their own successful lives because I didn't put that expectation into action.

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There is a huge difference between living at home as an adult because you HAVE to (can't or won't find a job, for example) and because you want to (working and saving money to buy a house).

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Anonymous wrote:My next door neighbors have a failure to launch son. He has a good job, but doesn't appear to have any social life outside of his parents. They finally got him to move out on his own last year but he's still at their house for the entire weekend, every weekend. He is in his early 30s. No sign of a girlfriend/boyfriend or even one friend. If my neighbors have plans or are just out and about, the son still comes and just sits at the house by himself.

Who pays this much attention to what a neighbor's son is doing...

+1000. You need a hobby, pp.

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Yes yes yes. It’s scary and a trend I noticed.

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Anonymous wrote:I have 2 mid 20's boys. Both graduated from college and beyond and live out of the house. I think work ethic needs to start YOUNG. My kids worked a summer job from around age 15 and always worked summers while in college. My DH and I paid for college, but all extras were on them. I was a SAHM so we never outsourced much. Cue: Your dad is traveling this week so you need to mow the lawn and they always had indoor cleaning chores. I am baffled when parents don't expect their kids to work a summer job or have chores in the house.

OP: Regarding the kids you speak about, who is bankrolling their lifestyle? Is Dad in the picture?

Really now? Mid 20s are men not boys. Stop infantilizing your sons.

DP. My boys will always be my boys. So will my girls.

%100 My daughter will always be my girl and my two sons are my boys. I don't care how old they get or how old I get. Calling them that has ZERO to do with how they were raised, it's holds as much weight as a pet name. All of our kids were raised to work hard and earn what they wanted instead of asking for it. People who get hung up and place so much value on the pet name someone uses for their child amaze me. My grandmother called me "baby girl" until the day she died.

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Anonymous wrote:I literally don't know a single person in this situation. I know a few who have adult children living at home for various reasons, but they have jobs or are in school.

+1

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Anonymous wrote:My next door neighbors have a failure to launch son. He has a good job, but doesn't appear to have any social life outside of his parents. They finally got him to move out on his own last year but he's still at their house for the entire weekend, every weekend. He is in his early 30s. No sign of a girlfriend/boyfriend or even one friend. If my neighbors have plans or are just out and about, the son still comes and just sits at the house by himself.

Who pays this much attention to what a neighbor's son is doing...

So failure to launch is now a good job living in your own place but visiting parents on the weekend and no girlfriend? Just own it. You obsessed with your neighbor’s son and hate him so much.