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Anonymous wrote:So the problem is that their scout is picking more players from one of the more talented elite clubs in the region than other clubs? I’m not following the “problem” or the “bad look” for US Soccer. It’s not their fault that there are better players on FCV on average than VDA.


It would be nice if they could play each other. I’d love to watch FCV smash the VDA hypetrain.


They might have played at Jeff cup for 2006s, but VDA’s “best team” couldn’t even make it past the same Penn Fusion DA team that WSVA only lost to 1-2 last week.

http://events.gotsport.com/events/results.aspx?EventID=66907&Gender=Girls&Age=13

FCV DA looked a lot better at Jeff Cup.


Obviously spirit va and fcv are the best teams in the area. Just ask their parents...


Best teams don’t matter. Just best players who are selected. Sorry DD isn’t one.
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Anonymous wrote:So the problem is that their scout is picking more players from one of the more talented elite clubs in the region than other clubs? I’m not following the “problem” or the “bad look” for US Soccer. It’s not their fault that there are better players on FCV on average than VDA.


It’s the fact that the scout is on the bench for all FCV age group games, that’s she’s working with FCV coaches to make choices, that kids she’s picking are less talented than others. It’s undeniable that it’s a bad look for US Soccer. She’s their employee, not FCV’s.


Well then get your kid to FCV and YNT dreams are yours for the taking.



Exactly. These people are miserable.


Not miserable, just realistic. Facts are facts.


If you were realistic you would:

A. Take your YNT DD to FCV

or

B. Realize your DD is not YNT material.


Why? Most of the YNTs from the area do not come from FCV.


The points were that there is more exposure to the local scout at FCV and that there is more average talent at FCV. Both points are correct.


The main difference between elite teams is not at the top of the depth chart, it is at the middle and bottom. FCV is deeper than all other elite clubs at most age groups. That is why having a predominance of FCV at YNT camps raises questions. The record of any given team does not necessarily correlate to the number of YNT camp selects. At the very least it is a conflict of interest to have a scout with a son or daughter in the area and be making that selection.
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Anonymous wrote:So the problem is that their scout is picking more players from one of the more talented elite clubs in the region than other clubs? I’m not following the “problem” or the “bad look” for US Soccer. It’s not their fault that there are better players on FCV on average than VDA.


It would be nice if they could play each other. I’d love to watch FCV smash the VDA hypetrain.


They might have played at Jeff cup for 2006s, but VDA’s “best team” couldn’t even make it past the same Penn Fusion DA team that WSVA only lost to 1-2 last week.

http://events.gotsport.com/events/results.aspx?EventID=66907&Gender=Girls&Age=13

FCV DA looked a lot better at Jeff Cup.


Obviously spirit va and fcv are the best teams in the area. Just ask their parents...


Having your DD's coach email the Talent Director about your kid is free. That is really all it takes. Perhaps you should talk to your DD's coach first and find out what he/she thinks about your DD's chances at being selected before you create conspiracy theories.
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Anonymous wrote:So the problem is that their scout is picking more players from one of the more talented elite clubs in the region than other clubs? I’m not following the “problem” or the “bad look” for US Soccer. It’s not their fault that there are better players on FCV on average than VDA.


It’s the fact that the scout is on the bench for all FCV age group games, that’s she’s working with FCV coaches to make choices, that kids she’s picking are less talented than others. It’s undeniable that it’s a bad look for US Soccer. She’s their employee, not FCV’s.


Well then get your kid to FCV and YNT dreams are yours for the taking.



Exactly. These people are miserable.


Not miserable, just realistic. Facts are facts.


If you were realistic you would:

A. Take your YNT DD to FCV

or

B. Realize your DD is not YNT material.


Why? Most of the YNTs from the area do not come from FCV.


The points were that there is more exposure to the local scout at FCV and that there is more average talent at FCV. Both points are correct.


The main difference between elite teams is not at the top of the depth chart, it is at the middle and bottom. FCV is deeper than all other elite clubs at most age groups. That is why having a predominance of FCV at YNT camps raises questions. The record of any given team does not necessarily correlate to the number of YNT camp selects. At the very least it is a conflict of interest to have a scout with a son or daughter in the area and be making that selection.


So that FCV's roster talent is deep is a reason why fewer FCV kids should be invited to YTC?

Those are some mental gymnastics you've got going on.
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Anonymous wrote:So the problem is that their scout is picking more players from one of the more talented elite clubs in the region than other clubs? I’m not following the “problem” or the “bad look” for US Soccer. It’s not their fault that there are better players on FCV on average than VDA.


It’s the fact that the scout is on the bench for all FCV age group games, that’s she’s working with FCV coaches to make choices, that kids she’s picking are less talented than others. It’s undeniable that it’s a bad look for US Soccer. She’s their employee, not FCV’s.


Well then get your kid to FCV and YNT dreams are yours for the taking.



Exactly. These people are miserable.


Not miserable, just realistic. Facts are facts.


If you were realistic you would:

A. Take your YNT DD to FCV

or

B. Realize your DD is not YNT material.


Why? Most of the YNTs from the area do not come from FCV.


The points were that there is more exposure to the local scout at FCV and that there is more average talent at FCV. Both points are correct.


The main difference between elite teams is not at the top of the depth chart, it is at the middle and bottom. FCV is deeper than all other elite clubs at most age groups. That is why having a predominance of FCV at YNT camps raises questions. The record of any given team does not necessarily correlate to the number of YNT camp selects. At the very least it is a conflict of interest to have a scout with a son or daughter in the area and be making that selection.


So that FCV's roster talent is deep is a reason why fewer FCV kids should be invited to YTC?

Those are some mental gymnastics you've got going on.


Let me simplify this for you. The point is that the reason for FCVs success is primarily depth. That does not mean their top talent is going to be better than other clubs by a wide margin as is indicated by their YNT camp selections.
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I understand what PP is trying to get at. let me try to explain

FCV 1-3 great
FCV 4-6 good, but not as good as other team 1-3

Other Team 1-3 great
Other team 4-6 not as good as FCV 4-6

but FCV 1-6 get selected and other team 1-3 don't

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Anonymous wrote:So the problem is that their scout is picking more players from one of the more talented elite clubs in the region than other clubs? I’m not following the “problem” or the “bad look” for US Soccer. It’s not their fault that there are better players on FCV on average than VDA.


It’s the fact that the scout is on the bench for all FCV age group games, that’s she’s working with FCV coaches to make choices, that kids she’s picking are less talented than others. It’s undeniable that it’s a bad look for US Soccer. She’s their employee, not FCV’s.


Well then get your kid to FCV and YNT dreams are yours for the taking.



Exactly. These people are miserable.


Not miserable, just realistic. Facts are facts.


If you were realistic you would:

A. Take your YNT DD to FCV

or

B. Realize your DD is not YNT material.


Why? Most of the YNTs from the area do not come from FCV.


The points were that there is more exposure to the local scout at FCV and that there is more average talent at FCV. Both points are correct.


The main difference between elite teams is not at the top of the depth chart, it is at the middle and bottom. FCV is deeper than all other elite clubs at most age groups. That is why having a predominance of FCV at YNT camps raises questions. The record of any given team does not necessarily correlate to the number of YNT camp selects. At the very least it is a conflict of interest to have a scout with a son or daughter in the area and be making that selection.


So that FCV's roster talent is deep is a reason why fewer FCV kids should be invited to YTC?

Those are some mental gymnastics you've got going on.


Let me simplify this for you. The point is that the reason for FCVs success is primarily depth. That does not mean their top talent is going to be better than other clubs by a wide margin as is indicated by their YNT camp selections.


Right, so they have more talent on their rosters than do other teams.

Yes I understand that. You're making my point.
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Anonymous wrote:So the problem is that their scout is picking more players from one of the more talented elite clubs in the region than other clubs? I’m not following the “problem” or the “bad look” for US Soccer. It’s not their fault that there are better players on FCV on average than VDA.


It would be nice if they could play each other. I’d love to watch FCV smash the VDA hypetrain.


They might have played at Jeff cup for 2006s, but VDA’s “best team” couldn’t even make it past the same Penn Fusion DA team that WSVA only lost to 1-2 last week.

http://events.gotsport.com/events/results.aspx?EventID=66907&Gender=Girls&Age=13

FCV DA looked a lot better at Jeff Cup.


Great point here.
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Anonymous wrote:So the problem is that their scout is picking more players from one of the more talented elite clubs in the region than other clubs? I’m not following the “problem” or the “bad look” for US Soccer. It’s not their fault that there are better players on FCV on average than VDA.


It’s the fact that the scout is on the bench for all FCV age group games, that’s she’s working with FCV coaches to make choices, that kids she’s picking are less talented than others. It’s undeniable that it’s a bad look for US Soccer. She’s their employee, not FCV’s.


Well then get your kid to FCV and YNT dreams are yours for the taking.



Exactly. These people are miserable.


Not miserable, just realistic. Facts are facts.


If you were realistic you would:

A. Take your YNT DD to FCV

or

B. Realize your DD is not YNT material.


Why? Most of the YNTs from the area do not come from FCV.


The points were that there is more exposure to the local scout at FCV and that there is more average talent at FCV. Both points are correct.


The main difference between elite teams is not at the top of the depth chart, it is at the middle and bottom. FCV is deeper than all other elite clubs at most age groups. That is why having a predominance of FCV at YNT camps raises questions. The record of any given team does not necessarily correlate to the number of YNT camp selects. At the very least it is a conflict of interest to have a scout with a son or daughter in the area and be making that selection.


So that FCV's roster talent is deep is a reason why fewer FCV kids should be invited to YTC?

Those are some mental gymnastics you've got going on.


Let me simplify this for you. The point is that the reason for FCVs success is primarily depth. That does not mean their top talent is going to be better than other clubs by a wide margin as is indicated by their YNT camp selections.


Right, so they have more talent on their rosters than do other teams.

Yes I understand that. You're making my point.


What was the point you were trying to make. FCVs record is good because their average player over 18 players is better than another teams average player over 18 players?

That explains why they are winning, it doesn't explain why average players are invited.
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Anonymous wrote:So the problem is that their scout is picking more players from one of the more talented elite clubs in the region than other clubs? I’m not following the “problem” or the “bad look” for US Soccer. It’s not their fault that there are better players on FCV on average than VDA.


It’s the fact that the scout is on the bench for all FCV age group games, that’s she’s working with FCV coaches to make choices, that kids she’s picking are less talented than others. It’s undeniable that it’s a bad look for US Soccer. She’s their employee, not FCV’s.


Well then get your kid to FCV and YNT dreams are yours for the taking.



Exactly. These people are miserable.


Not miserable, just realistic. Facts are facts.


If you were realistic you would:

A. Take your YNT DD to FCV

or

B. Realize your DD is not YNT material.


Why? Most of the YNTs from the area do not come from FCV.


The points were that there is more exposure to the local scout at FCV and that there is more average talent at FCV. Both points are correct.


The main difference between elite teams is not at the top of the depth chart, it is at the middle and bottom. FCV is deeper than all other elite clubs at most age groups. That is why having a predominance of FCV at YNT camps raises questions. The record of any given team does not necessarily correlate to the number of YNT camp selects. At the very least it is a conflict of interest to have a scout with a son or daughter in the area and be making that selection.


So that FCV's roster talent is deep is a reason why fewer FCV kids should be invited to YTC?

Those are some mental gymnastics you've got going on.


Let me simplify this for you. The point is that the reason for FCVs success is primarily depth. That does not mean their top talent is going to be better than other clubs by a wide margin as is indicated by their YNT camp selections.


Right, so they have more talent on their rosters than do other teams.

Yes I understand that. You're making my point.


What was the point you were trying to make. FCVs record is good because their average player over 18 players is better than another teams average player over 18 players?

That explains why they are winning, it doesn't explain why average players are invited.



Ummm, average players are being invited because the scout spends all her time at FCV training and games.
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The only explanation is that the Talent Directors DD is at FCV. Mom decides who makes it. DD and her teammates are therefore selected. Clearly that is nepotism.

The FCV supporter explained it best. If you want to go to YNT, get your DD to FCV. That is corruption at it's worst.
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Anonymous wrote:So the problem is that their scout is picking more players from one of the more talented elite clubs in the region than other clubs? I’m not following the “problem” or the “bad look” for US Soccer. It’s not their fault that there are better players on FCV on average than VDA.


It’s the fact that the scout is on the bench for all FCV age group games, that’s she’s working with FCV coaches to make choices, that kids she’s picking are less talented than others. It’s undeniable that it’s a bad look for US Soccer. She’s their employee, not FCV’s.


Well then get your kid to FCV and YNT dreams are yours for the taking.



Exactly. These people are miserable.


Not miserable, just realistic. Facts are facts.


If you were realistic you would:

A. Take your YNT DD to FCV

or

B. Realize your DD is not YNT material.


Why? Most of the YNTs from the area do not come from FCV.


The points were that there is more exposure to the local scout at FCV and that there is more average talent at FCV. Both points are correct.


The main difference between elite teams is not at the top of the depth chart, it is at the middle and bottom. FCV is deeper than all other elite clubs at most age groups. That is why having a predominance of FCV at YNT camps raises questions. The record of any given team does not necessarily correlate to the number of YNT camp selects. At the very least it is a conflict of interest to have a scout with a son or daughter in the area and be making that selection.


So that FCV's roster talent is deep is a reason why fewer FCV kids should be invited to YTC?

Those are some mental gymnastics you've got going on.


Let me simplify this for you. The point is that the reason for FCVs success is primarily depth. That does not mean their top talent is going to be better than other clubs by a wide margin as is indicated by their YNT camp selections.


Right, so they have more talent on their rosters than do other teams.

Yes I understand that. You're making my point.


What was the point you were trying to make. FCVs record is good because their average player over 18 players is better than another teams average player over 18 players?

That explains why they are winning, it doesn't explain why average players are invited.



Ummm, average players are being invited because the scout spends all her time at FCV training and games.


+1 She needs to be fired. Major conflict of interest. Not fair to the rest of the players or to her employer US Soccer.
Anonymous
Scanning her resume. Where’s all the success?
Anonymous
Poor babies on this thread, whining that their superstar hasn’t been selected for a YNT camp. Better to wake up and smell the coffee than to personally attack someone whom you don’t even know. Some sick people on this forum.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Poor babies on this thread, whining that their superstar hasn’t been selected for a YNT camp. Better to wake up and smell the coffee than to personally attack someone whom you don’t even know. Some sick people on this forum.


I don't think my DD is headed for YNT. I still don't think we identify and cultivate talent properly. I find it hard to believe that what we field is really the best we have as a nation. And if it is, then let the overhaul of youth soccer begin.
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