Is there or isn’t there a crisis on the border?

[Anonymous]

the crisis is not at the border, it is in neighborhoods where the middle class families cannot send their kids to a local school because it is overrun by illegals kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Trump is an opportunist, he doesn’t care about curbing illegal immigration, but the saddest thing is that nobody else does either. Middle class is supposed to share their resources while the richest hide in prohibitively expensive neighborhoods and behind walls of their own.

+1 neighborhoods and schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/20/us/border-patrol-rio-grande-overcrowding

Article I read tonight in the NYT. Why has the border been busier the past month? Because reading this alarms me, a moderate Democrat. I see Trump using this to his benefit.

there is a crises in Montgomery County. You should check out the busloads showing up monthly at CASA de Maryland. They instantly expect a lot of freebies, and have been well-taught what their "rights" are to American asylum-claimants (full welfare, SNAP, Medicaid, bus passes, ESOL classes), and of course where to best wire cash back to the true homeland.

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Anonymous wrote:There is no political benefit to Trump to actually come up with a sensible solution to illegal immigration. It's far more useful to him to use simple-minded ideas like the wall to keep his base riled up.

As if democrats arent using it as a wedge issue.

Trump has that covered better than anyone.

Democrats absolutely use it as a wedge issue too to the same degree.

Mind you there is already a wall on the border that most of them voted for previously. Democrats somehow only find this particular piece of border wall immoral and ineffective. But for some odd reason they aren't talking about tearing down the wall sections they voted for previously.

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They're so far past hypocrisy at this point. Luckily, the rest of the nation is seeing them for what they are.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/20/us/border-patrol-rio-grande-overcrowding

Article I read tonight in the NYT. Why has the border been busier the past month? Because reading this alarms me, a moderate Democrat. I see Trump using this to his benefit.

No need to be alarmed. A bunch of families fleeing violence is not a threat to you. Kim Jung Un continuing to develop a nuclear arsenal unchecked by Donald Trump is a much more serious threat.

What exactly did Barack and Joe do for EIGHT years?

North Korea’s nuclear program has made the greatest strides in history under Trump. And it’s contiuning while Trump feeds his base red meat about an unneeded wall.

That is such a load of crap. Obama did nothing. His stated strategy was "strategic patience." You are so off on this. It is not an easy thing to do--to simply convince another country to give up its arms. I am not saying Trump has succeed or is succeeding but he is trying. Obama literally did NOTHING.

THIS. For all the mocking of Trump and his meetings with KJU, he was taking action, not merely sitting in the WH, doing nothing.

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Anonymous wrote:Not a crisis. U.S. Customs & Border Protection has a $14.7 billion budget and all the personnel and resources they need to deal with some poor people showing up at the border.

They could've gotten even more if Trump had accepted the deal.

You mean the deal which would have given DACA a path to citizenship, thus insuring even more illegal immigrants would arrive here, hoping for the same? Nope. He declined the deal for a reason.

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Anonymous wrote:There is no political benefit to Trump to actually come up with a sensible solution to illegal immigration. It's far more useful to him to use simple-minded ideas like the wall to keep his base riled up.

As if democrats arent using it as a wedge issue.

Trump has that covered better than anyone.

Democrats absolutely use it as a wedge issue too to the same degree.

Mind you there is already a wall on the border that most of them voted for previously. Democrats somehow only find this particular piece of border wall immoral and ineffective. But for some odd reason they aren't talking about tearing down the wall sections they voted for previously.

Probably because back when they voted for it,

1. they weren't going to build along the Rio Grande, which would be really difficult and expensive

2. we didn't have the type of high tech gizmos we have today. Even the military uses more high tech gear today than they did 8 years, which Trump btw wants us to go back to using tanks and steam power for our weapons.

There are a lot of other places that need wall not on the Rio Grande and you know it. These people are walking across deserts way out in remote areas. Those places need wall.

Trump wants to use 'high tech gizmos'too.. in addition to a wall. To stop the hundreds of people flooding the border daily. None of the high tech gizmos will physically stop people or even slow them down.

None of this explains why a wall is immoral now but not back when they voted for it. Most people agree that the places that are walled saw a drop in illegal crossings. In fact humanitarian groups have said that is why there has been an increase in deaths... because people are pushing out to more remote places with no wall to cross and end up dying in the heat... because the wall is so effective.

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Yet the U.S. is somehow being blamed for the deaths of people who *choose* to make a long and dangerous journey.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Also now that coyotes know that our Congress is worthless they are ferrying people to the border in groups 100+ as a distraction to get drugs across while the border agents are processing the people. Or using children as a distraction most recently dropping young kids across the border to distract the agents then sending a larger group of adults in while they are distracted. These are not asylum seekers. I can only guess why a group of men wants to come undetected. Lord only knows what crimes they have been convicted of. And this is the scenario Democrats are fighting to maintain. Drones and other technology would do nothing but allow border agents to watch as more people and criminals flood in. They will sit on their hands unwilling to give Trump anything and will pay in 2020 for it.

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There was even an unaccompanied TWO-YR. OLD recently. Seems people are just grabbing kids because they know it'll get them into the U.S. faster.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/20/us/border-patrol-rio-grande-overcrowding

Article I read tonight in the NYT. Why has the border been busier the past month? Because reading this alarms me, a moderate Democrat. I see Trump using this to his benefit.

No need to be alarmed. A bunch of families fleeing violence is not a threat to you. Kim Jung Un continuing to develop a nuclear arsenal unchecked by Donald Trump is a much more serious threat.

What exactly did Barack and Joe do for EIGHT years?

North Korea’s nuclear program has made the greatest strides in history under Trump. And it’s contiuning while Trump feeds his base red meat about an unneeded wall.

That is such a load of crap. Obama did nothing. His stated strategy was "strategic patience." You are so off on this. It is not an easy thing to do--to simply convince another country to give up its arms. I am not saying Trump has succeed or is succeeding but he is trying. Obama literally did NOTHING.

THIS. For all the mocking of Trump and his meetings with KJU, he was taking action, not merely sitting in the WH, doing nothing.

What actions? Turning down $25 billion for border funding?

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Anonymous wrote:Not a crisis. U.S. Customs & Border Protection has a $14.7 billion budget and all the personnel and resources they need to deal with some poor people showing up at the border.

They could've gotten even more if Trump had accepted the deal.

You mean the deal which would have given DACA a path to citizenship, thus insuring even more illegal immigrants would arrive here, hoping for the same? Nope. He declined the deal for a reason.

And ended up with nothing. So. Much. Winning.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:the crisis is not at the border, it is in neighborhoods where the middle class families cannot send their kids to a local school because it is overrun by illegals kids.

True

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Anonymous wrote:the crisis is not at the border, it is in neighborhoods where the middle class families cannot send their kids to a local school because it is overrun by illegals kids.

True

Yes, true - but there wouldn't be this crisis in middle class neighborhoods and schools if it wasn't starting at the border.

[Anonymous]

Schroedingers Border. Its like Schroedinger’s economy (in the best shape ever unless we are dissing Jay Powell), but with kids in cages.

Who knew Teump did theoretical physics?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Schroedingers Border. Its like Schroedinger’s economy (in the best shape ever unless we are dissing Jay Powell), but with kids in cages.

Who knew Teump did theoretical physics?

Who is Teump?

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/20/us/border-patrol-rio-grande-overcrowding

Article I read tonight in the NYT. Why has the border been busier the past month? Because reading this alarms me, a moderate Democrat. I see Trump using this to his benefit.

there is a crises in Montgomery County. You should check out the busloads showing up monthly at CASA de Maryland. They instantly expect a lot of freebies, and have been well-taught what their "rights" are to American asylum-claimants (full welfare, SNAP, Medicaid, bus passes, ESOL classes), and of course where to best wire cash back to the true homeland.

I dont give $ to places like CASA for this reason. They are a lobbying group in their own right