APS Transgender Policy

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Difficult issue to deal with.

It seems to me that there are some accomodations that must be made by the trans child/family.

If your child has a physical problem (such as bedwetting), you would likely consider not sending the child to sleepaway camp. If your child has anxiety issues, you might reconsider sleepaway camp. If your child is trans, maybe you should also reconsider. This surely would be the least of the issues.

If your child has extreme allergies, the same.

We all adapt to the needs of our kids. We cannot make everyone else do so.

So how do you feel about nut-free schools?

[Anonymous]

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But will she be sharing a bunk with a boy? Specific individuals isn’t the point. Race is a social construct. Sex is a real, biological difference, and it does NOT make someone intolerant if they don’t want their minor daughter sharing sleeping arrangements with someone with a penis. I have no problem with people being trans, but why does it seem that people are fine with girls’ & women's rights and well-being being steamrolled to make things better or “more fair” for trans people??

You should probably think about why you automatically assume a child with a penis who is actively living their life as a girl would in any way pose a threat to another girl who is their friend. And why you are willing to put that child in a room with a bunch of other children with penises socialized as boys who are 100 times more likely to hurt them. You would willingly put a trans child in a more dangerous position because you are afraid of something that quite literally never happens. Trans children dont assault other children. Cis children, especially boys,assault trans children every day. Confront your bigotry and think about what it is that makes you so afraid.

x1000

This exactly. Where precisely should the trans girl sleep? The boys bunk? You think that'll go well?

Depends -- the whole concept of "trans girl" is BS.

Either we are talking a biological boy or a biological girl. Once someone has completely "transed" over, he or she is just the new biological reality.

So the rule is one and the same, always -- for sports and sleeping and bathroom and lockers, you go with your biological sex.

Ok, so according to your rule, a trans girl - a child who looks and identifies as a girl - who has a penis should sleep in a bunk full of boys. How do you imagine that will play out? Do you think that trans child will be safe? Will feel safe?

How do you imagine that 10 girls would feel if someone sleeping with them has a penis? Do you think they would feel safe?

And if they wouldn't, then don't send them to a camp where they might have to bunk with a trans girl.

This is getting interesting.

So, the rights of one kid with mental health problems trumps the rights of 10 girls who simply want to go on with their lives?

From now on I demand to be called Cleopatra and to be addressed in Greek.

If you don't like it, don't come to DCUM.

I don’t understand how in our sleep away camp situation the 10 girls can’t go on living their lives in the same room as the transgender girl . . . . Are you concerned they might catch a glimpse of some anatomy when kids are changing into PJs? Are you concerned about assault?

[Anonymous]

I don’t understand how in our sleep away camp situation the 10 girls can’t go on living their lives in the same room as the transgender girl . . . . Are you concerned they might catch a glimpse of some anatomy when kids are changing into PJs? Are you concerned about assault

Do you even remember being a 10-12 year old girl? Budding bodies? Curiosity? Talking about boys?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Difficult issue to deal with.

It seems to me that there are some accomodations that must be made by the trans child/family.

If your child has a physical problem (such as bedwetting), you would likely consider not sending the child to sleepaway camp. If your child has anxiety issues, you might reconsider sleepaway camp. If your child is trans, maybe you should also reconsider. This surely would be the least of the issues.

If your child has extreme allergies, the same.

We all adapt to the needs of our kids. We cannot make everyone else do so.

So how do you feel about nut-free schools?

DP: great question. That's OK because 1) many kids may have the problem, and 2) the solution does not impact anyone's privacy or safety.

This is quite different.

Incidentally, one of my kids is lactose-intolerant and we don't try to impose her dietary needs on all kids at school/ camp.

[Anonymous]

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I don’t understand how in our sleep away camp situation the 10 girls can’t go on living their lives in the same room as the transgender girl . . . . Are you concerned they might catch a glimpse of some anatomy when kids are changing into PJs? Are you concerned about assault

Do you even remember being a 10-12 year old girl? Budding bodies? Curiosity? Talking about boys?

So? What's the problem with having a trans girl there? You think she's gonna whip it out?

[Anonymous]

Now you’ve got the same “woke” parents all chiming in on AEM like there’s no nuance whatsoever to this new policy. For allegedly being tolerant of different views, doesn’t seem like Arlington is very tolerant of anything other than the most progressive.

[Anonymous]

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I don’t understand how in our sleep away camp situation the 10 girls can’t go on living their lives in the same room as the transgender girl . . . . Are you concerned they might catch a glimpse of some anatomy when kids are changing into PJs? Are you concerned about assault

Do you even remember being a 10-12 year old girl? Budding bodies? Curiosity? Talking about boys?

+1.

[Anonymous]

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I don’t understand how in our sleep away camp situation the 10 girls can’t go on living their lives in the same room as the transgender girl . . . . Are you concerned they might catch a glimpse of some anatomy when kids are changing into PJs? Are you concerned about assault

Do you even remember being a 10-12 year old girl? Budding bodies? Curiosity? Talking about boys?

So? What's the problem with having a trans girl there? You think she's gonna whip it out?

If you even have to make that lame joke, by definition she is not a girl.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Difficult issue to deal with.

It seems to me that there are some accomodations that must be made by the trans child/family.

If your child has a physical problem (such as bedwetting), you would likely consider not sending the child to sleepaway camp. If your child has anxiety issues, you might reconsider sleepaway camp. If your child is trans, maybe you should also reconsider. This surely would be the least of the issues.

If your child has extreme allergies, the same.

We all adapt to the needs of our kids. We cannot make everyone else do so.

So how do you feel about nut-free schools?

DP: great question. That's OK because 1) many kids may have the problem, and 2) the solution does not impact anyone's privacy or safety.

This is quite different.

Incidentally, one of my kids is lactose-intolerant and we don't try to impose her dietary needs on all kids at school/ camp.

That's great, but your kid isn't going to experience symptoms if someone else has a cheese stick.

I think the fact that fewer kids have the problem actually weighs in favor of accommodation, because fewer children will be affected by the accommodation.

Could you explain how a child's privacy or safety is impacted, especially since we don't segregate gay children from their same-sex peers? Is there any evidence at all that trans children are a danger to cis children?

[Anonymous]

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I don’t understand how in our sleep away camp situation the 10 girls can’t go on living their lives in the same room as the transgender girl . . . . Are you concerned they might catch a glimpse of some anatomy when kids are changing into PJs? Are you concerned about assault

Do you even remember being a 10-12 year old girl? Budding bodies? Curiosity? Talking about boys?

So? What's the problem with having a trans girl there? You think she's gonna whip it out?

If you even have to make that lame joke, by definition she is not a girl.

By your definition. Not by the medical community's.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Now you’ve got the same “woke” parents all chiming in on AEM like there’s no nuance whatsoever to this new policy. For allegedly being tolerant of different views, doesn’t seem like Arlington is very tolerant of anything other than the most progressive.

Have whatever views you want. But don't take them out on trans kids.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Now you’ve got the same “woke” parents all chiming in on AEM like there’s no nuance whatsoever to this new policy. For allegedly being tolerant of different views, doesn’t seem like Arlington is very tolerant of anything other than the most progressive.

Have whatever views you want. But don't take them out on trans kids.

+1

Keep your intolerance at home.

[Anonymous]

There's now a non-transparent APS parent group that has been created to fight this policy.
https://arlingtonparentcoa.wixsite.com/arlingtonparentcoa?fbclid=IwAR0yqhdaEcHTRW8RzUcnxPuiF_FEogCHPiS-CKAwukT-KtC0rpCmB8za4t0

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Now you’ve got the same “woke” parents all chiming in on AEM like there’s no nuance whatsoever to this new policy. For allegedly being tolerant of different views, doesn’t seem like Arlington is very tolerant of anything other than the most progressive.

Have whatever views you want. But don't take them out on trans kids.

+1

Keep your intolerance at home.

But that’s just it. You’re assuming I’m intolerant just because I think there’s further legitimate discussion to be had on some of these points. Instead conversation that you shut down the discussion. That’s not very tolerant.

[Anonymous]

That should say that instead of having a conversation, you shut down the discussion.