Surviving R. Kelly

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have only watched the first episode all the way through, but did anyone catch that the bodyguard insinuated that the marriage to Aaliyah was due to a possible pregnancy?

Yes, I think it may come up again in the second video. Not sure if that was the same guy who said he forged the documents for Aaliyah saying she was 18. I thought it was the same person.

Yeah, he said he helped forge documents for them. They just seem to gloss over the pregnancy thing, though. Maybe it was chemical or miscarried?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:PLEASE people don’t let the only argument or comment you have after seeing this documentary be “I blame the parents” or “but he been like that.” This world is so sad! The only thing that should be said now is “how do we get justice” or “how can I support the Me Too movement.” How can we stop monsters like this from continuing to hurt women!!!? First thing you can do is stop listening/buying/steaming his music. No need to fund and or support this nasty MFer. Sit down and teach your kids that there are monsters like him everywhere and how to identify if someone may be in a similar situation.

I agree with you and hear you. But the parents play a strong role in this and many of the other adults. When we see something wrong or strange we have to speak up. It’s nice to scream me too but when the rubber meets the road people have to stand up and not turn a blind eye. We cannot be blinded by money or fame.

You stop this by stopping the money. The #muteRKelly might be the only way he is ever stopped. As long as he can offer people the promise of fame and fortune, this will continue.

I also have to say I am disappointed that Aaliyah's family keeps denying the nature of their relationship. On some level, that is allowing him to continue this. Same with the young lady who was in "the video". The refused to ID her in court. EVERYONE knows it is her. Giving him plausible deniability only hurts more girls and women in the long run.

No I was referring to other situations where this could be going on now. R. Kelly will stay rich he is a songwriter for so many other artists songs. In my opinion this documentary raises more awareness about women that could be in this situation now and no one is speaking out around them.

[Anonymous]

I saw a few headlines saying that his music sales have spiked since the documentary was released. Yikes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I saw a few headlines saying that his music sales have spiked since the documentary was released. Yikes.

Is it really that surprising? People will defend him simply because he's a black man. It's ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I saw a few headlines saying that his music sales have spiked since the documentary was released. Yikes.

Is it really that surprising? People will defend him simply because he's a black man. It's ridiculous.

Uh, no. I'm black, and all my friends have been talking about how terrible he is, and how we need to do a better job of believing and protecting black women and girls.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I saw a few headlines saying that his music sales have spiked since the documentary was released. Yikes.

Is it really that surprising? People will defend him simply because he's a black man. It's ridiculous.

Uh, no. I'm black, and all my friends have been talking about how terrible he is, and how we need to do a better job of believing and protecting black women and girls.

That's nice, but who do you think is supporting him, attending his concerts, and buying his music?

[Anonymous]

As a former R.Kelly fan from the "12 Play" days, some things that stood out for me: Who takes their daughter to a R.Kelly concert? the 30+ year old DJ that quit her job to become part of the "cult"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As a former R.Kelly fan from the "12 Play" days, some things that stood out for me: Who takes their daughter to a R.Kelly concert? the 30+ year old DJ that quit her job to become part of the "cult"

I've watched the all the episodes and this is my take:

1. The parents were long-time fans, and as they said, he wasn't convicted in 2008. That adds to the sense that there was a conspiracy to take down a black man who is successful. They also said that their daughter wanted to perform, and that they thought that by being with her whenever R. Kelly interacted with her, that she would be out of harm's way. They claimed they were surprised when she called them to say she was with R. Kelly in a hotel room, "auditioning." He was wily enough to find a way to get around the parents' presence.

2. DJ- this one is harder to understand because she was in the industry and gave up her career to be with him, despite the years of stories and rumors. I think she was featured in one of the BuzzFeed or New Yorker articles, and there was obvious, post-divorce self-esteem issues. I think the thread for the older women, including ex-wife, is that he seduced then gaslit them. They "knew" a different man from what he later became. I think that is part of the abuse cycle.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I saw a few headlines saying that his music sales have spiked since the documentary was released. Yikes.

Is it really that surprising? People will defend him simply because he's a black man. It's ridiculous.

Uh, no. I'm black, and all my friends have been talking about how terrible he is, and how we need to do a better job of believing and protecting black women and girls.

That's nice, but who do you think is supporting him, attending his concerts, and buying his music?

Right, but unsaid here is that black people uniformly and uncritically support him because he's a black man. That's far from true. I haven't heard one single person I know defending him.

[Anonymous]

Also, the fact that now he's older than some of the PARENTS of the young ladies he's messing with really sickened me.

Although admittedly, I did catch myself falling into the thinking of, "Where the hell were these girls' parents?!" I did truly feel for Dominique's mother, who didn't realize her daughter was being brainwashed and sucked into R. Kelly's sick sex cult until it was too late, and tried so hard to get her out. I haven't seen the final episode yet, but at the end of episode 5 at least, I was happy with the outcome of Dominique's situation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Also, the fact that now he's older than some of the PARENTS of the young ladies he's messing with really sickened me.

Although admittedly, I did catch myself falling into the thinking of, "Where the hell were these girls' parents?!" I did truly feel for Dominique's mother, who didn't realize her daughter was being brainwashed and sucked into R. Kelly's sick sex cult until it was too late, and tried so hard to get her out. I haven't seen the final episode yet, but at the end of episode 5 at least, I was happy with the outcome of Dominique's situation.

The entire thing is sickening!

I don't feel sorry for the parents. One set of parents went from, one of them always has to be there with their daughter, to sure, someone from the label can watch over her. I mean, these poor choices on their part seem driven by money. No actual parenting was taking place at the time, even the older sister totally dropped the ball. They were afraid to say no. One of the parents said that in the docuseries.

[Anonymous]

Remember the bomb threat on the theatric premiere?

Yep. He sucks.

He MORE than sucks. He’s vile.

[Anonymous]

This story has been going on for years but the music industry still embraces him. Didn't he do a duet with Lady Gaga? Plenty of people, blacks and whites, buy his music and attend his concerts. If he had done this to young white girls he'd be in jail. why haven't people like Oprah taken him to task?

[Anonymous]

Dave Chapelle skit from 2010

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjsufO9hZwo&feature=youtu.be

[Anonymous]

Has he been dropped from his label?