DH having an attitude after strip club

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Anonymous wrote:Did you go to Camelot?

I knew girls who worked there in the late 90s. They were cool girls. Troubled, but cool. You should hear what strippers think of people who go to clubs.

LOL you should try to imagine how much I care about the good opinion of stupid sluts who dance naked for money.

Ok, wow. Former dancer here. I now have a family and professional job, and you would never, ever know about my past employment. Women I worked with are now lawyers, real estate agents, computer programmers, librarians, social workers, nurses, etc. Honestly everyone reading this thread probably knows a former dancer and has no idea, so I would watch it with sentiments like this. Most women who work in strip clubs aren't "stupid sluts", in my experience it was usually college students and moms who wanted to work three days a week and spend the rest of the time with their kids. I for one am one of the only people I know that didn't have family pay for college and has no student loans. So.

On to what dancers think of customers. Honestly, female customers were the bane of my existence. Women either think they have a license to get handsy and that the rules don't apply to them because they're women, or get super jealous about their dad bod husband they came with. Newsflash: chris rock wasn't lying when he said there was no sex in the champagne room. Dancers just want to make money and are not trying to get with your loser husbands. Dancing is basically a hardcore sales job, so everything that is said and done is done with the goal of selling dances. Sob story? Probably not true, just a hustle. Smooth talking about how attractive and fun the customer is? Also a hustle.

As for OP, next time you go you should talk with your husband first about what your boundaries are.

...aaaaand there it is. These well-adjusted, undamaged, totally not trafficked individuals view men to be losers and women to be the bane of their existence.

You are intentionally misreading my post. People were curious about what dancers think of customers, I'm telling you my opinion from my lived experience. I did not enjoy most female customers because of the issues mentioned above: jealousy, thinking the rules don't apply to them, etc. And yes, usually the female customers that acted the most jealous and crazy were sad middle aged frumps with loser husbands. Did I say all men were losers? No. Some men are losers, specifically the men that came to strip clubs with these sad, sad ladies. I don't think finding this behavior unpleasant makes me damaged or trafficked (again LOL.) I will say, anecdotally, that I usually didn't see this kind of jealous, weird behavior from attractive, secure women.

I find it interesting how a few of you seem so hell bent on posting this tired stereotype about how dancers are damaged, trafficked, slutty, etc when there are at least two or maybe three former dancers in this thread saying, No, this is not the case.

Trust me, all of you have at least one former stripper in your extended circle and you have no idea.

you may not be damaged, but you sure aren't a good person or a feminist.

New poster here. One who went with a boyfriend to a club 30 years ago. Now I’m old. Wasn’t jealous, but it’s not my thing. Dancing wouldn’t be my thing, either. But what’s with all the hate on the dancers? If a woman is doing something of her own free will, that’s fine in my book. Not hurting a soul. Feminism absolutely supports that.

NP: But this dancer isn't a feminist, she is judgemental about other women based on their looks. Her comments about the sad middle ages frumps is really quite awful. I'm sure looks mean a great deal to her.

NP. After being slut-shamed, IMO the gloves are off and the dancer cannsay whatever she wants about the rude a-hole who started it. And I agree with the poster who said feminism supports a woman’s choice to do this if she wants to. If someone does this and they enjoy it and are successful, more power to them. I’m not jealous and it’s just another job to me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can't believe people actually go to these clubs. Gah I can only imagine what body fluids are on every surface. Gross. Just so nasty. Nevermind having some strange gyrating near your face. Its anyones guess where that's been too.

I can’t believe how many women don’t understand men at all.

—woman

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did you go to Camelot?

I knew girls who worked there in the late 90s. They were cool girls. Troubled, but cool. You should hear what strippers think of people who go to clubs.

LOL you should try to imagine how much I care about the good opinion of stupid sluts who dance naked for money.

Ok, wow. Former dancer here. I now have a family and professional job, and you would never, ever know about my past employment. Women I worked with are now lawyers, real estate agents, computer programmers, librarians, social workers, nurses, etc. Honestly everyone reading this thread probably knows a former dancer and has no idea, so I would watch it with sentiments like this. Most women who work in strip clubs aren't "stupid sluts", in my experience it was usually college students and moms who wanted to work three days a week and spend the rest of the time with their kids. I for one am one of the only people I know that didn't have family pay for college and has no student loans. So.

On to what dancers think of customers. Honestly, female customers were the bane of my existence. Women either think they have a license to get handsy and that the rules don't apply to them because they're women, or get super jealous about their dad bod husband they came with. Newsflash: chris rock wasn't lying when he said there was no sex in the champagne room. Dancers just want to make money and are not trying to get with your loser husbands. Dancing is basically a hardcore sales job, so everything that is said and done is done with the goal of selling dances. Sob story? Probably not true, just a hustle. Smooth talking about how attractive and fun the customer is? Also a hustle.

As for OP, next time you go you should talk with your husband first about what your boundaries are.

...aaaaand there it is. These well-adjusted, undamaged, totally not trafficked individuals view men to be losers and women to be the bane of their existence.

You are intentionally misreading my post. People were curious about what dancers think of customers, I'm telling you my opinion from my lived experience. I did not enjoy most female customers because of the issues mentioned above: jealousy, thinking the rules don't apply to them, etc. And yes, usually the female customers that acted the most jealous and crazy were sad middle aged frumps with loser husbands. Did I say all men were losers? No. Some men are losers, specifically the men that came to strip clubs with these sad, sad ladies. I don't think finding this behavior unpleasant makes me damaged or trafficked (again LOL.) I will say, anecdotally, that I usually didn't see this kind of jealous, weird behavior from attractive, secure women.

I find it interesting how a few of you seem so hell bent on posting this tired stereotype about how dancers are damaged, trafficked, slutty, etc when there are at least two or maybe three former dancers in this thread saying, No, this is not the case.

Trust me, all of you have at least one former stripper in your extended circle and you have no idea.

you may not be damaged, but you sure aren't a good person or a feminist.

New poster here. One who went with a boyfriend to a club 30 years ago. Now I’m old. Wasn’t jealous, but it’s not my thing. Dancing wouldn’t be my thing, either. But what’s with all the hate on the dancers? If a woman is doing something of her own free will, that’s fine in my book. Not hurting a soul. Feminism absolutely supports that.

NP: But this dancer isn't a feminist, she is judgemental about other women based on their looks. Her comments about the sad middle ages frumps is really quite awful. I'm sure looks mean a great deal to her.

NP. After being slut-shamed, IMO the gloves are off and the dancer cannsay whatever she wants about the rude a-hole who started it. And I agree with the poster who said feminism supports a woman’s choice to do this if she wants to. If someone does this and they enjoy it and are successful, more power to them. I’m not jealous and it’s just another job to me.

Former dancer here and I am confused. There are women all over this board that say mean things about other women (exhibit A, any thread about working moms or stay at home moms), but I am a terrible person for relating my actual life experience? I find it confusing that some of you have such a hard time imagining that a middle aged woman who is maybe not looking/feeling so great anymore might get jealous about her dh at the strip club, get drunk, and act crazy. Think about how weird some women act about having an attractive young nanny or babysitter. Can you really all not imagine this scenario playing out as I'm describing? I'm not judging these women based on their looks, I'm judging them on their rude and shitty actions, which, in my opinion, are rooted in insecurity.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I can't believe people actually go to these clubs. Gah I can only imagine what body fluids are on every surface. Gross. Just so nasty. Nevermind having some strange gyrating near your face. Its anyones guess where that's been too.

I can’t believe how many women don’t understand men at all.

—woman

Hahaha right! Also, bodily fluids? I would say most strip club surface are more likely to be lightly scented with beer and whatever body spray is popular with young women at that time. Back in my day, it was Warm Vanilla Sugar and Lovespell. Calm down PP.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I can't believe people actually go to these clubs. Gah I can only imagine what body fluids are on every surface. Gross. Just so nasty. Nevermind having some strange gyrating near your face. Its anyones guess where that's been too.

I can’t believe how many women don’t understand men at all.

—woman

Yeah because all men like to "experience' women after a whole line of other dudes...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I can't believe people actually go to these clubs. Gah I can only imagine what body fluids are on every surface. Gross. Just so nasty. Nevermind having some strange gyrating near your face. Its anyones guess where that's been too.

I can’t believe how many women don’t understand men at all.

—woman

Hahaha right! Also, bodily fluids? I would say most strip club surface are more likely to be lightly scented with beer and whatever body spray is popular with young women at that time. Back in my day, it was Warm Vanilla Sugar and Lovespell. Calm down PP.

Yeah right. Take a black light in there and it will tell a different story. Yuck

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Did you go to Camelot?

I knew girls who worked there in the late 90s. They were cool girls. Troubled, but cool. You should hear what strippers think of people who go to clubs.

LOL you should try to imagine how much I care about the good opinion of stupid sluts who dance naked for money.

Ok, wow. Former dancer here. I now have a family and professional job, and you would never, ever know about my past employment. Women I worked with are now lawyers, real estate agents, computer programmers, librarians, social workers, nurses, etc. Honestly everyone reading this thread probably knows a former dancer and has no idea, so I would watch it with sentiments like this. Most women who work in strip clubs aren't "stupid sluts", in my experience it was usually college students and moms who wanted to work three days a week and spend the rest of the time with their kids. I for one am one of the only people I know that didn't have family pay for college and has no student loans. So.

On to what dancers think of customers. Honestly, female customers were the bane of my existence. Women either think they have a license to get handsy and that the rules don't apply to them because they're women, or get super jealous about their dad bod husband they came with. Newsflash: chris rock wasn't lying when he said there was no sex in the champagne room. Dancers just want to make money and are not trying to get with your loser husbands. Dancing is basically a hardcore sales job, so everything that is said and done is done with the goal of selling dances. Sob story? Probably not true, just a hustle. Smooth talking about how attractive and fun the customer is? Also a hustle.

As for OP, next time you go you should talk with your husband first about what your boundaries are.

...aaaaand there it is. These well-adjusted, undamaged, totally not trafficked individuals view men to be losers and women to be the bane of their existence.

You are intentionally misreading my post. People were curious about what dancers think of customers, I'm telling you my opinion from my lived experience. I did not enjoy most female customers because of the issues mentioned above: jealousy, thinking the rules don't apply to them, etc. And yes, usually the female customers that acted the most jealous and crazy were sad middle aged frumps with loser husbands. Did I say all men were losers? No. Some men are losers, specifically the men that came to strip clubs with these sad, sad ladies. I don't think finding this behavior unpleasant makes me damaged or trafficked (again LOL.) I will say, anecdotally, that I usually didn't see this kind of jealous, weird behavior from attractive, secure women.

I find it interesting how a few of you seem so hell bent on posting this tired stereotype about how dancers are damaged, trafficked, slutty, etc when there are at least two or maybe three former dancers in this thread saying, No, this is not the case.

Trust me, all of you have at least one former stripper in your extended circle and you have no idea.

you may not be damaged, but you sure aren't a good person or a feminist.

New poster here. One who went with a boyfriend to a club 30 years ago. Now I’m old. Wasn’t jealous, but it’s not my thing. Dancing wouldn’t be my thing, either. But what’s with all the hate on the dancers? If a woman is doing something of her own free will, that’s fine in my book. Not hurting a soul. Feminism absolutely supports that.

NP: But this dancer isn't a feminist, she is judgemental about other women based on their looks. Her comments about the sad middle ages frumps is really quite awful. I'm sure looks mean a great deal to her.

NP. After being slut-shamed, IMO the gloves are off and the dancer cannsay whatever she wants about the rude a-hole who started it. And I agree with the poster who said feminism supports a woman’s choice to do this if she wants to. If someone does this and they enjoy it and are successful, more power to them. I’m not jealous and it’s just another job to me.

Former dancer here and I am confused. There are women all over this board that say mean things about other women (exhibit A, any thread about working moms or stay at home moms), but I am a terrible person for relating my actual life experience? I find it confusing that some of you have such a hard time imagining that a middle aged woman who is maybe not looking/feeling so great anymore might get jealous about her dh at the strip club, get drunk, and act crazy. Think about how weird some women act about having an attractive young nanny or babysitter. Can you really all not imagine this scenario playing out as I'm describing? I'm not judging these women based on their looks, I'm judging them on their rude and shitty actions, which, in my opinion, are rooted in insecurity.

No, what you're doing is viciously furthering sexist/ageist stereotypes because these particular women made YOU feel disapproval.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I can't believe people actually go to these clubs. Gah I can only imagine what body fluids are on every surface. Gross. Just so nasty. Nevermind having some strange gyrating near your face. Its anyones guess where that's been too.

I can’t believe how many women don’t understand men at all.

—woman

Yeah because all men like to "experience' women after a whole line of other dudes...

You’re talking about sex. I’m taking about dancing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did you go to Camelot?

I knew girls who worked there in the late 90s. They were cool girls. Troubled, but cool. You should hear what strippers think of people who go to clubs.

LOL you should try to imagine how much I care about the good opinion of stupid sluts who dance naked for money.

Ok, wow. Former dancer here. I now have a family and professional job, and you would never, ever know about my past employment. Women I worked with are now lawyers, real estate agents, computer programmers, librarians, social workers, nurses, etc. Honestly everyone reading this thread probably knows a former dancer and has no idea, so I would watch it with sentiments like this. Most women who work in strip clubs aren't "stupid sluts", in my experience it was usually college students and moms who wanted to work three days a week and spend the rest of the time with their kids. I for one am one of the only people I know that didn't have family pay for college and has no student loans. So.

On to what dancers think of customers. Honestly, female customers were the bane of my existence. Women either think they have a license to get handsy and that the rules don't apply to them because they're women, or get super jealous about their dad bod husband they came with. Newsflash: chris rock wasn't lying when he said there was no sex in the champagne room. Dancers just want to make money and are not trying to get with your loser husbands. Dancing is basically a hardcore sales job, so everything that is said and done is done with the goal of selling dances. Sob story? Probably not true, just a hustle. Smooth talking about how attractive and fun the customer is? Also a hustle.

As for OP, next time you go you should talk with your husband first about what your boundaries are.

...aaaaand there it is. These well-adjusted, undamaged, totally not trafficked individuals view men to be losers and women to be the bane of their existence.

You are intentionally misreading my post. People were curious about what dancers think of customers, I'm telling you my opinion from my lived experience. I did not enjoy most female customers because of the issues mentioned above: jealousy, thinking the rules don't apply to them, etc. And yes, usually the female customers that acted the most jealous and crazy were sad middle aged frumps with loser husbands. Did I say all men were losers? No. Some men are losers, specifically the men that came to strip clubs with these sad, sad ladies. I don't think finding this behavior unpleasant makes me damaged or trafficked (again LOL.) I will say, anecdotally, that I usually didn't see this kind of jealous, weird behavior from attractive, secure women.

I find it interesting how a few of you seem so hell bent on posting this tired stereotype about how dancers are damaged, trafficked, slutty, etc when there are at least two or maybe three former dancers in this thread saying, No, this is not the case.

Trust me, all of you have at least one former stripper in your extended circle and you have no idea.

you may not be damaged, but you sure aren't a good person or a feminist.

New poster here. One who went with a boyfriend to a club 30 years ago. Now I’m old. Wasn’t jealous, but it’s not my thing. Dancing wouldn’t be my thing, either. But what’s with all the hate on the dancers? If a woman is doing something of her own free will, that’s fine in my book. Not hurting a soul. Feminism absolutely supports that.

NP: But this dancer isn't a feminist, she is judgemental about other women based on their looks. Her comments about the sad middle ages frumps is really quite awful. I'm sure looks mean a great deal to her.

Sounds like she hit a nerve with you.

Nothing she said was even close to being as offensive as the original degrading comment about strippers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did you go to Camelot?

I knew girls who worked there in the late 90s. They were cool girls. Troubled, but cool. You should hear what strippers think of people who go to clubs.

LOL you should try to imagine how much I care about the good opinion of stupid sluts who dance naked for money.

Ok, wow. Former dancer here. I now have a family and professional job, and you would never, ever know about my past employment. Women I worked with are now lawyers, real estate agents, computer programmers, librarians, social workers, nurses, etc. Honestly everyone reading this thread probably knows a former dancer and has no idea, so I would watch it with sentiments like this. Most women who work in strip clubs aren't "stupid sluts", in my experience it was usually college students and moms who wanted to work three days a week and spend the rest of the time with their kids. I for one am one of the only people I know that didn't have family pay for college and has no student loans. So.

On to what dancers think of customers. Honestly, female customers were the bane of my existence. Women either think they have a license to get handsy and that the rules don't apply to them because they're women, or get super jealous about their dad bod husband they came with. Newsflash: chris rock wasn't lying when he said there was no sex in the champagne room. Dancers just want to make money and are not trying to get with your loser husbands. Dancing is basically a hardcore sales job, so everything that is said and done is done with the goal of selling dances. Sob story? Probably not true, just a hustle. Smooth talking about how attractive and fun the customer is? Also a hustle.

As for OP, next time you go you should talk with your husband first about what your boundaries are.

...aaaaand there it is. These well-adjusted, undamaged, totally not trafficked individuals view men to be losers and women to be the bane of their existence.

You are intentionally misreading my post. People were curious about what dancers think of customers, I'm telling you my opinion from my lived experience. I did not enjoy most female customers because of the issues mentioned above: jealousy, thinking the rules don't apply to them, etc. And yes, usually the female customers that acted the most jealous and crazy were sad middle aged frumps with loser husbands. Did I say all men were losers? No. Some men are losers, specifically the men that came to strip clubs with these sad, sad ladies. I don't think finding this behavior unpleasant makes me damaged or trafficked (again LOL.) I will say, anecdotally, that I usually didn't see this kind of jealous, weird behavior from attractive, secure women.

I find it interesting how a few of you seem so hell bent on posting this tired stereotype about how dancers are damaged, trafficked, slutty, etc when there are at least two or maybe three former dancers in this thread saying, No, this is not the case.

Trust me, all of you have at least one former stripper in your extended circle and you have no idea.

you may not be damaged, but you sure aren't a good person or a feminist.

New poster here. One who went with a boyfriend to a club 30 years ago. Now I’m old. Wasn’t jealous, but it’s not my thing. Dancing wouldn’t be my thing, either. But what’s with all the hate on the dancers? If a woman is doing something of her own free will, that’s fine in my book. Not hurting a soul. Feminism absolutely supports that.

NP: But this dancer isn't a feminist, she is judgemental about other women based on their looks. Her comments about the sad middle ages frumps is really quite awful. I'm sure looks mean a great deal to her.

Sounds like she hit a nerve with you.

Nothing she said was even close to being as offensive as the original degrading comment about strippers.

*1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did you go to Camelot?

I knew girls who worked there in the late 90s. They were cool girls. Troubled, but cool. You should hear what strippers think of people who go to clubs.

LOL you should try to imagine how much I care about the good opinion of stupid sluts who dance naked for money.

Ok, wow. Former dancer here. I now have a family and professional job, and you would never, ever know about my past employment. Women I worked with are now lawyers, real estate agents, computer programmers, librarians, social workers, nurses, etc. Honestly everyone reading this thread probably knows a former dancer and has no idea, so I would watch it with sentiments like this. Most women who work in strip clubs aren't "stupid sluts", in my experience it was usually college students and moms who wanted to work three days a week and spend the rest of the time with their kids. I for one am one of the only people I know that didn't have family pay for college and has no student loans. So.

On to what dancers think of customers. Honestly, female customers were the bane of my existence. Women either think they have a license to get handsy and that the rules don't apply to them because they're women, or get super jealous about their dad bod husband they came with. Newsflash: chris rock wasn't lying when he said there was no sex in the champagne room. Dancers just want to make money and are not trying to get with your loser husbands. Dancing is basically a hardcore sales job, so everything that is said and done is done with the goal of selling dances. Sob story? Probably not true, just a hustle. Smooth talking about how attractive and fun the customer is? Also a hustle.

As for OP, next time you go you should talk with your husband first about what your boundaries are.

...aaaaand there it is. These well-adjusted, undamaged, totally not trafficked individuals view men to be losers and women to be the bane of their existence.

You are intentionally misreading my post. People were curious about what dancers think of customers, I'm telling you my opinion from my lived experience. I did not enjoy most female customers because of the issues mentioned above: jealousy, thinking the rules don't apply to them, etc. And yes, usually the female customers that acted the most jealous and crazy were sad middle aged frumps with loser husbands. Did I say all men were losers? No. Some men are losers, specifically the men that came to strip clubs with these sad, sad ladies. I don't think finding this behavior unpleasant makes me damaged or trafficked (again LOL.) I will say, anecdotally, that I usually didn't see this kind of jealous, weird behavior from attractive, secure women.

I find it interesting how a few of you seem so hell bent on posting this tired stereotype about how dancers are damaged, trafficked, slutty, etc when there are at least two or maybe three former dancers in this thread saying, No, this is not the case.

Trust me, all of you have at least one former stripper in your extended circle and you have no idea.

you may not be damaged, but you sure aren't a good person or a feminist.

New poster here. One who went with a boyfriend to a club 30 years ago. Now I’m old. Wasn’t jealous, but it’s not my thing. Dancing wouldn’t be my thing, either. But what’s with all the hate on the dancers? If a woman is doing something of her own free will, that’s fine in my book. Not hurting a soul. Feminism absolutely supports that.

NP: But this dancer isn't a feminist, she is judgemental about other women based on their looks. Her comments about the sad middle ages frumps is really quite awful. I'm sure looks mean a great deal to her.

Sounds like she hit a nerve with you.

Nothing she said was even close to being as offensive as the original degrading comment about strippers.

*1

Exactly. She gets called a troubled slut and defends herself politely and appropriately. What’s up with the deranged woman calling people sluts?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can't believe people actually go to these clubs. Gah I can only imagine what body fluids are on every surface. Gross. Just so nasty. Nevermind having some strange gyrating near your face. Its anyones guess where that's been too.

I can’t believe how many women don’t understand men at all.

—woman

I've met plenty of men who don't enjoy strip clubs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did you go to Camelot?

I knew girls who worked there in the late 90s. They were cool girls. Troubled, but cool. You should hear what strippers think of people who go to clubs.

LOL you should try to imagine how much I care about the good opinion of stupid sluts who dance naked for money.

Ok, wow. Former dancer here. I now have a family and professional job, and you would never, ever know about my past employment. Women I worked with are now lawyers, real estate agents, computer programmers, librarians, social workers, nurses, etc. Honestly everyone reading this thread probably knows a former dancer and has no idea, so I would watch it with sentiments like this. Most women who work in strip clubs aren't "stupid sluts", in my experience it was usually college students and moms who wanted to work three days a week and spend the rest of the time with their kids. I for one am one of the only people I know that didn't have family pay for college and has no student loans. So.

On to what dancers think of customers. Honestly, female customers were the bane of my existence. Women either think they have a license to get handsy and that the rules don't apply to them because they're women, or get super jealous about their dad bod husband they came with. Newsflash: chris rock wasn't lying when he said there was no sex in the champagne room. Dancers just want to make money and are not trying to get with your loser husbands. Dancing is basically a hardcore sales job, so everything that is said and done is done with the goal of selling dances. Sob story? Probably not true, just a hustle. Smooth talking about how attractive and fun the customer is? Also a hustle.

As for OP, next time you go you should talk with your husband first about what your boundaries are.

...aaaaand there it is. These well-adjusted, undamaged, totally not trafficked individuals view men to be losers and women to be the bane of their existence.

You are intentionally misreading my post. People were curious about what dancers think of customers, I'm telling you my opinion from my lived experience. I did not enjoy most female customers because of the issues mentioned above: jealousy, thinking the rules don't apply to them, etc. And yes, usually the female customers that acted the most jealous and crazy were sad middle aged frumps with loser husbands. Did I say all men were losers? No. Some men are losers, specifically the men that came to strip clubs with these sad, sad ladies. I don't think finding this behavior unpleasant makes me damaged or trafficked (again LOL.) I will say, anecdotally, that I usually didn't see this kind of jealous, weird behavior from attractive, secure women.

I find it interesting how a few of you seem so hell bent on posting this tired stereotype about how dancers are damaged, trafficked, slutty, etc when there are at least two or maybe three former dancers in this thread saying, No, this is not the case.

Trust me, all of you have at least one former stripper in your extended circle and you have no idea.

you may not be damaged, but you sure aren't a good person or a feminist.

New poster here. One who went with a boyfriend to a club 30 years ago. Now I’m old. Wasn’t jealous, but it’s not my thing. Dancing wouldn’t be my thing, either. But what’s with all the hate on the dancers? If a woman is doing something of her own free will, that’s fine in my book. Not hurting a soul. Feminism absolutely supports that.

NP: But this dancer isn't a feminist, she is judgemental about other women based on their looks. Her comments about the sad middle ages frumps is really quite awful. I'm sure looks mean a great deal to her.

Sounds like she hit a nerve with you.

Nothing she said was even close to being as offensive as the original degrading comment about strippers.

So it's ok to call older women "frumps" with "loser husbands" if you feel insulted?? I don't think saying that many/most sex workers have troubling circumstances, or that sex work is likely a degrading or psychologically harmful profession for most, is "slut shaming" either.

[Anonymous]

I don't equate exotic dancing with sex work and I think it is dangerous to confound the two.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't equate exotic dancing with sex work and I think it is dangerous to confound the two.

This.