Some of the disgusting stuff that is happening in pornography

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I've seen a lot of this. I also have friends in the industry (content side).

It's fake. I know the Latina Painal video referenced in the article too. They're part of a network of sites doing "gonzo" (reality) porn based out of Miami. BangBros is the company name.

Sometimes you'll catch slip-ups, like the girl's weaing earring and suddenly she's not, or her lipstick color changed. What happens is they missed a particular shot and had to re-shoot that part the next day.

These companies make millions. They have no incentive to risk their business by filming someone underage, or raping someone. Why put your business in jeapoardy when you can easily do it above-board (using actresses who agree to it)?

Also if you watch enough of it (I do, I'm male), you'll see the same rotation of actresses across the sites. If it was not consensual, they wouldn't be coming back to shoot more and more films.

Now, as for why people like it. One reason is these seem like "normal" girls that you'd just meet at a bar, so more genuine and not looking fake. The other reason is their being "surprised" the casting leads to sex portrays them as nice innocent girls not party sluts.. and guys like that fantasy.

Bingo. Also, it's not that pornography is doing some disgusting stuff, it's that there's a market out there that seeks out this "disgusting stuff".

[Anonymous]

Many of these films are made offshore specifically so that there is no liability and no age limit. Those justifying it as a legitimate industry are in lala land.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Many facts have been given, such as the fact that the average amount of time a girl spends in the porn industry is only 4 months, that she usually leaves without making much money, that many of these women were sexually abused. Care to address these facts? Thought not.

PP with friends in the industry here. Yes, the industry is always looking for new faces, so the shelf-life of an actress is short. I don't see a problem with this -- surely they know it. Just like a football player knows their career is lucky to last 3 years in pro football.

The women know how much they will get paid for one scene. They can turn it down or get another job if they don't like the money. They are not being forced to take the job. If she leaves without "making much money", she isn't choosing the right job.

As for many women being victims of sexual abuse in the past, I don't doubt that, but the industry isn't and shouldn't screen for it, just like other employers don't screen for it.

People make decisions in their life which we may not agree with, but they are making it of their own free will and legally.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Many of these films are made offshore specifically so that there is no liability and no age limit. Those justifying it as a legitimate industry are in lala land.

Wrong. Content providers outside the US only deal with 18+ models also. Why would they risk getting in huge trouble by using an under-18 model? The sites in the US that buy their content wouldn't touch the stuff. There's no business reason to do so, and besides, there are plenty of 18+ people out there to hire.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've seen a lot of this. I also have friends in the industry (content side).

It's fake. I know the Latina Painal video referenced in the article too. They're part of a network of sites doing "gonzo" (reality) porn based out of Miami. BangBros is the company name.

Sometimes you'll catch slip-ups, like the girl's weaing earring and suddenly she's not, or her lipstick color changed. What happens is they missed a particular shot and had to re-shoot that part the next day.

These companies make millions. They have no incentive to risk their business by filming someone underage, or raping someone. Why put your business in jeapoardy when you can easily do it above-board (using actresses who agree to it)?

Also if you watch enough of it (I do, I'm male), you'll see the same rotation of actresses across the sites. If it was not consensual, they wouldn't be coming back to shoot more and more films.

Now, as for why people like it. One reason is these seem like "normal" girls that you'd just meet at a bar, so more genuine and not looking fake. The other reason is their being "surprised" the casting leads to sex portrays them as nice innocent girls not party sluts.. and guys like that fantasy.

Average rotation time in porn: 4 months. Of course you will see some of these women more than once. It doesn't mean that "they wouldn't be coming back". Often times they need the money, they've done one film, so their name has essentially been ruined, so why not do a few more and get more money out of it, they've signed up for expenses (like living in a house with other young new porn actresses, often ran by the same people who cast them and scout them), etc. This is not something they are freely doing. You don't see women from Bethesda doing these films, let's put it that way

Your explanation is a very sanitized idea of why men want to watch scenes with "Pain" in the name, and why the woman being lied to and essentially tricked out of money is a major part of the scene. That's misogyny straight up, and there's no way you can whitewash it.

Women from Bethesda don’t do this? Hahahahaha!

Go over to FFXU and see the ongoing threads about women from FFX county who do this. If it was Bethesda Underground you’d have a similar list.

If you want to participate in the real world, please take your blinders off.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Many facts have been given, such as the fact that the average amount of time a girl spends in the porn industry is only 4 months, that she usually leaves without making much money, that many of these women were sexually abused. Care to address these facts? Thought not.

PP with friends in the industry here. Yes, the industry is always looking for new faces, so the shelf-life of an actress is short. I don't see a problem with this -- surely they know it. Just like a football player knows their career is lucky to last 3 years in pro football.

The women know how much they will get paid for one scene. They can turn it down or get another job if they don't like the money. They are not being forced to take the job. If she leaves without "making much money", she isn't choosing the right job.

As for many women being victims of sexual abuse in the past, I don't doubt that, but the industry isn't and shouldn't screen for it, just like other employers don't screen for it.

People make decisions in their life which we may not agree with, but they are making it of their own free will and legally.

while I would never want my DD to enter the porn industry, this PP is exactly right. What many folks (women) conveniently overlook is that the the vast majority of women who enter into the porn industry, do so by choosing to do it. Do they have the education and/or other skills that will gain them meaningful employment elsewhere? probably not. but that goes back to the choices they make for themselves.

[Anonymous]

There was a thread a week ago about who has been a sugarbaby (got paid for sex) while in college. It was surprising how many DCUMers have done it. Were they all sexually abused, exploited, etc?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many of these films are made offshore specifically so that there is no liability and no age limit. Those justifying it as a legitimate industry are in lala land.

Wrong. Content providers outside the US only deal with 18+ models also. Why would they risk getting in huge trouble by using an under-18 model? The sites in the US that buy their content wouldn't touch the stuff. There's no business reason to do so, and besides, there are plenty of 18+ people out there to hire.

You obviously haven't been to many "resort" islands and cities in south and central America and Asia where bars are literally crawling with pimps and pubescent girls who will do anything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Many facts have been given, such as the fact that the average amount of time a girl spends in the porn industry is only 4 months, that she usually leaves without making much money, that many of these women were sexually abused. Care to address these facts? Thought not.

PP with friends in the industry here. Yes, the industry is always looking for new faces, so the shelf-life of an actress is short. I don't see a problem with this -- surely they know it. Just like a football player knows their career is lucky to last 3 years in pro football.

The women know how much they will get paid for one scene. They can turn it down or get another job if they don't like the money. They are not being forced to take the job. If she leaves without "making much money", she isn't choosing the right job.

As for many women being victims of sexual abuse in the past, I don't doubt that, but the industry isn't and shouldn't screen for it, just like other employers don't screen for it.

People make decisions in their life which we may not agree with, but they are making it of their own free will and legally.

No, they don't know this. The other poster posted about girls getting into a "career" in the industry which would make them $150 K, which is laughable. A grown man believes this, you don't think an 18 year old from rural Kentucky would believe the same thing?

The women have little to none negotiation power. This is not an industry that rewards experience, so if you don't want to do that scene, or feel uncomfortable with the acts expected it- too bad, you do it,

You are watching these girls essentially live out their trauma. They are being retraumatized and performing the sex acts they were taught by their abusers early in life. A normal, healthy person finds this sickening, you seem to be, unsurprisingly, numb and blasé about it.

When you jerk off and enjoy someone who is making a horrific decision, such as in the metaphor of me paying a homeless man to knock out his teeth, you are a horrible person. And regulatory boards should step in to prevent me from regularly approaching people and knocking out their teeth while filming it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've seen a lot of this. I also have friends in the industry (content side).

It's fake. I know the Latina Painal video referenced in the article too. They're part of a network of sites doing "gonzo" (reality) porn based out of Miami. BangBros is the company name.

Sometimes you'll catch slip-ups, like the girl's weaing earring and suddenly she's not, or her lipstick color changed. What happens is they missed a particular shot and had to re-shoot that part the next day.

These companies make millions. They have no incentive to risk their business by filming someone underage, or raping someone. Why put your business in jeapoardy when you can easily do it above-board (using actresses who agree to it)?

Also if you watch enough of it (I do, I'm male), you'll see the same rotation of actresses across the sites. If it was not consensual, they wouldn't be coming back to shoot more and more films.

Now, as for why people like it. One reason is these seem like "normal" girls that you'd just meet at a bar, so more genuine and not looking fake. The other reason is their being "surprised" the casting leads to sex portrays them as nice innocent girls not party sluts.. and guys like that fantasy.

Average rotation time in porn: 4 months. Of course you will see some of these women more than once. It doesn't mean that "they wouldn't be coming back". Often times they need the money, they've done one film, so their name has essentially been ruined, so why not do a few more and get more money out of it, they've signed up for expenses (like living in a house with other young new porn actresses, often ran by the same people who cast them and scout them), etc. This is not something they are freely doing. You don't see women from Bethesda doing these films, let's put it that way

Your explanation is a very sanitized idea of why men want to watch scenes with "Pain" in the name, and why the woman being lied to and essentially tricked out of money is a major part of the scene. That's misogyny straight up, and there's no way you can whitewash it.

Women from Bethesda don’t do this? Hahahahaha!

Go over to FFXU and see the ongoing threads about women from FFX county who do this. If it was Bethesda Underground you’d have a similar list.

If you want to participate in the real world, please take your blinders off.

Yes. Women from nice backgrounds, by and large, don't do this. FFX county is very different.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So sad. I feel like I could cry for those girls. We live in a sad world. Men hate women so much.

And women hate men. See how that works? Can we stop with the male bashing. All MEN are not bad, evil people, just as all women are not bad, evil people. These individuals are sick but it does no good for you and your kind to continue to lump all men into your problematic view of the world. STOP IT.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've seen a lot of this. I also have friends in the industry (content side).

It's fake. I know the Latina Painal video referenced in the article too. They're part of a network of sites doing "gonzo" (reality) porn based out of Miami. BangBros is the company name.

Sometimes you'll catch slip-ups, like the girl's weaing earring and suddenly she's not, or her lipstick color changed. What happens is they missed a particular shot and had to re-shoot that part the next day.

These companies make millions. They have no incentive to risk their business by filming someone underage, or raping someone. Why put your business in jeapoardy when you can easily do it above-board (using actresses who agree to it)?

Also if you watch enough of it (I do, I'm male), you'll see the same rotation of actresses across the sites. If it was not consensual, they wouldn't be coming back to shoot more and more films.

Now, as for why people like it. One reason is these seem like "normal" girls that you'd just meet at a bar, so more genuine and not looking fake. The other reason is their being "surprised" the casting leads to sex portrays them as nice innocent girls not party sluts.. and guys like that fantasy.

Average rotation time in porn: 4 months. Of course you will see some of these women more than once. It doesn't mean that "they wouldn't be coming back". Often times they need the money, they've done one film, so their name has essentially been ruined, so why not do a few more and get more money out of it, they've signed up for expenses (like living in a house with other young new porn actresses, often ran by the same people who cast them and scout them), etc. This is not something they are freely doing. You don't see women from Bethesda doing these films, let's put it that way

Your explanation is a very sanitized idea of why men want to watch scenes with "Pain" in the name, and why the woman being lied to and essentially tricked out of money is a major part of the scene. That's misogyny straight up, and there's no way you can whitewash it.

Women from Bethesda don’t do this? Hahahahaha!

Go over to FFXU and see the ongoing threads about women from FFX county who do this. If it was Bethesda Underground you’d have a similar list.

If you want to participate in the real world, please take your blinders off.

Yes. Women from nice backgrounds, by and large, don't do this. FFX county is very different.

Sigh.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So sad. I feel like I could cry for those girls. We live in a sad world. Men hate women so much.

And women hate men. See how that works? Can we stop with the male bashing. All MEN are not bad, evil people, just as all women are not bad, evil people. These individuals are sick but it does no good for you and your kind to continue to lump all men into your problematic view of the world. STOP IT.

Men need to stop watching porn where women are hurt and abused and that is part of the appeal.

If women were watching and getting off to men being hurt, abused, violated, humiliated- yes, you bet there would be stories about it.

I'm not gonna stop, and I'm not gonna shut up. I'm gonna fight.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many of these films are made offshore specifically so that there is no liability and no age limit. Those justifying it as a legitimate industry are in lala land.

Wrong. Content providers outside the US only deal with 18+ models also. Why would they risk getting in huge trouble by using an under-18 model? The sites in the US that buy their content wouldn't touch the stuff. There's no business reason to do so, and besides, there are plenty of 18+ people out there to hire.

You obviously haven't been to many "resort" islands and cities in south and central America and Asia where bars are literally crawling with pimps and pubescent girls who will do anything.

Maybe so, but they're not filming porn. The industry doesn't want to touch any under-18 stuff at all, because it's highly illegal and not worth losing their business over.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So sad. I feel like I could cry for those girls. We live in a sad world. Men hate women so much.

And women hate men. See how that works? Can we stop with the male bashing. All MEN are not bad, evil people, just as all women are not bad, evil people. These individuals are sick but it does no good for you and your kind to continue to lump all men into your problematic view of the world. STOP IT.

Men need to stop watching porn where women are hurt and abused and that is part of the appeal.

If women were watching and getting off to men being hurt, abused, violated, humiliated- yes, you bet there would be stories about it.

I'm not gonna stop, and I'm not gonna shut up. I'm gonna fight.

I think you got it reversed. These films (hurt and abuse) exist because there's a market for it. Some men, but not all, are just disgusting like that and they inherently get pleasure out of watching these vids.