Some of the disgusting stuff that is happening in pornography

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Anonymous wrote:These women are also making bad choices.

indeed. and they are making those bad choices of their own volition. can't legislate against being stupid (though I wish we could)

Making $2,000-$4,000 for a half-day shoot is a bad choice?

So an otherwise unskilled young woman, with minimal training in acting, can choose to work 5 times per month, and earn $180,000 a year, and if she has the finincial discipline to do it, manage a career that can span up to a decade or longer, is making a bad choice?


I guess you'd rather see her go to law school and accumulate $300k in student debt, because we don't already have an over abundance of lawyers already? Or maybe get a masters in feminist studies and work........ well, nowhere...... than make a living doing porn.

Ok thanks. No.

you missed the point entirely. the point was that women are choosing to do porn and are doing so by consent not through exploitation. is that a good choice or a bad choice, I dunno. But it's a woman's choice to make.

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Anonymous wrote:I do not watch any of that stuff but I do know most of them are paid actors.

Does being paid mean it's okay? Can I knock out a homeless man's teeth if I pay him $100 beforehand?

It is sick but they are consenting adults.

It is well-established that boundaries are routinely crossed once filming has begun. The "actors" don't stop when a woman says no, screams in pain, starts crying. If you're a woman alone in a room full of men who's objective it is to exploit you, the five hundred dollars you're making won't save you, nor does it protect you from these men's predatory natures.

Oh, honey. I promise you that you've never actually seen a real film involving abuse.

Oh honey, if you watch porn, yes, yes you have.

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This is just the natural outgrowth of the Playboy culture. Women, even prepubescent girls, are valued only as objects of sexual gratification to be discarded after use or possibly used as silent servants.

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Anonymous wrote:A lot of that stuff is fake including the sex.

You are a disgusting pig who doesn't want to acknowledge the reality of women's abuse. You want to sweep it under the rug. Too bad. It's real, and we're not going to hide it anymore.

DP

And you are too obtuse to understand that these are actors, acting?

Do you understand that murders in movies aren't really murdering people? It's a movie. It's fake.

After the porno scene is shot, they clean up, get dressed, help the crew pack up the lights and gear, and then they all probably go to Chipotle or get drinks.

You didn't read the article, did you?

Please, for the love of God, READ ARTICLES before commenting. My Lord. How embarrassing to weigh in so authoritatively and you're just 1000% incorrect.

I did, and if the author really believes those women aren't professional porn actresses who know EXACTLY what they're doing, then she's operating a few bricks short of a full load.

You think she's acting when she cries out in pain? Wow. You must not have read very much about the porn industry. Time for you to educate yourself before spouting off, sparky.

I know she's an actress. Acting. Stop implying she was raped or that her participation in acting wasn't done without her clear, informed consent.

You think the sex is faked? These are not ACTRESSES, they are not a part of SAG, they did not go to the Actor's Studio, they are basically young 18 year olds who've never acted in anything in their life who are desperate for money. NOT acting. REAL pain, real distress, as so many porn actresses have spoken out about. Educate yourself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is just the natural outgrowth of the Playboy culture. Women, even prepubescent girls, are valued only as objects of sexual gratification to be discarded after use or possibly used as silent servants.

+1

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Anonymous wrote:I do not watch any of that stuff but I do know most of them are paid actors.

Does being paid mean it's okay? Can I knock out a homeless man's teeth if I pay him $100 beforehand?

It is sick but they are consenting adults.

No, they are not consenting adults.
Many of them are immigrants or teens who are seduced by "boyfriends," then locked up or addicted to drugs against their will and used for porn until they are no longer of any use. Many end up as "ODs."

[Anonymous]

I've seen a lot of this. I also have friends in the industry (content side).

It's fake. I know the Latina Painal video referenced in the article too. They're part of a network of sites doing "gonzo" (reality) porn based out of Miami. BangBros is the company name.

Sometimes you'll catch slip-ups, like the girl's weaing earring and suddenly she's not, or her lipstick color changed. What happens is they missed a particular shot and had to re-shoot that part the next day.

These companies make millions. They have no incentive to risk their business by filming someone underage, or raping someone. Why put your business in jeapoardy when you can easily do it above-board (using actresses who agree to it)?

Also if you watch enough of it (I do, I'm male), you'll see the same rotation of actresses across the sites. If it was not consensual, they wouldn't be coming back to shoot more and more films.

Now, as for why people like it. One reason is these seem like "normal" girls that you'd just meet at a bar, so more genuine and not looking fake. The other reason is their being "surprised" the casting leads to sex portrays them as nice innocent girls not party sluts.. and guys like that fantasy.

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Anonymous wrote:I think about the increased prevalence of violent and degrading acts in porn, and think about the young guys (and young girls) watching it and normalizing it.

I feel sick when I see how common it's become to slap the woman, pull her hair, spit on her, and make her gag. This was considered insanely degrading and misogynist in my youth, and we would have been up and out the door if a guy did that. (I'm not talking about relationships based on s&m.)

I NEVER had a guy want to use the "back door" in college. Now it's all the rage and its spreading disease and death. Young women aren't liberated, they're subjugated worse than I've ever seen in my life.

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Anonymous wrote:In my experience, when it comes to sex, there's a huge difference between men who don't watch porn and those who do, or grew up watching it. Men who don't are way more attentive to their partner's needs and are willing to do things women like, such as foreplay, kissing, touching, massage, etc. For men who watch porn it's all about the dick- they just want to stick it in as quickly as possible, and even after you tell them you aren't ready yet, they still try to cram it in. Then they are baffled when their partner doesn't O or thinks something is wrong with them.

My older male friends tell me it is shaping women's sexuality as well- the women they are sleeping with who are in their 20's want to be slapped, choked, and degraded, and don't understand why that isn't normal.

I am in my 20s and have never slept with an older man because I am not attracted to them. But I've definitely heard that from my friends, some of whom do want those things, and it's absolutely incomprehensible. I've definitely had to tell men not to pull my hair, not to smack my butt, etc etc etc. It's very bizarre and such a divergence from real, true sexuality which is about connection

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I've seen a lot of this. I also have friends in the industry (content side).

It's fake. I know the Latina Painal video referenced in the article too. They're part of a network of sites doing "gonzo" (reality) porn based out of Miami. BangBros is the company name.

Sometimes you'll catch slip-ups, like the girl's weaing earring and suddenly she's not, or her lipstick color changed. What happens is they missed a particular shot and had to re-shoot that part the next day.

These companies make millions. They have no incentive to risk their business by filming someone underage, or raping someone. Why put your business in jeapoardy when you can easily do it above-board (using actresses who agree to it)?

Also if you watch enough of it (I do, I'm male), you'll see the same rotation of actresses across the sites. If it was not consensual, they wouldn't be coming back to shoot more and more films.

Now, as for why people like it. One reason is these seem like "normal" girls that you'd just meet at a bar, so more genuine and not looking fake. The other reason is their being "surprised" the casting leads to sex portrays them as nice innocent girls not party sluts.. and guys like that fantasy.

Average rotation time in porn: 4 months. Of course you will see some of these women more than once. It doesn't mean that "they wouldn't be coming back". Often times they need the money, they've done one film, so their name has essentially been ruined, so why not do a few more and get more money out of it, they've signed up for expenses (like living in a house with other young new porn actresses, often ran by the same people who cast them and scout them), etc. This is not something they are freely doing. You don't see women from Bethesda doing these films, let's put it that way

Your explanation is a very sanitized idea of why men want to watch scenes with "Pain" in the name, and why the woman being lied to and essentially tricked out of money is a major part of the scene. That's misogyny straight up, and there's no way you can whitewash it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I've seen a lot of this. I also have friends in the industry (content side).

It's fake. I know the Latina Painal video referenced in the article too. They're part of a network of sites doing "gonzo" (reality) porn based out of Miami. BangBros is the company name.

Sometimes you'll catch slip-ups, like the girl's weaing earring and suddenly she's not, or her lipstick color changed. What happens is they missed a particular shot and had to re-shoot that part the next day.

These companies make millions. They have no incentive to risk their business by filming someone underage, or raping someone. Why put your business in jeapoardy when you can easily do it above-board (using actresses who agree to it)?

Also if you watch enough of it (I do, I'm male), you'll see the same rotation of actresses across the sites. If it was not consensual, they wouldn't be coming back to shoot more and more films.

Now, as for why people like it. One reason is these seem like "normal" girls that you'd just meet at a bar, so more genuine and not looking fake. The other reason is their being "surprised" the casting leads to sex portrays them as nice innocent girls not party sluts.. and guys like that fantasy.

Facts and reality have no place here. The narrative we're to believe is that porn stars are all unwilling, underaged human-trafficking victims who are repeatedly "raped" and "violated" on camera without their consent for $1/day and I'm sticking to it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I do not watch any of that stuff but I do know most of them are paid actors.

Does being paid mean it's okay? Can I knock out a homeless man's teeth if I pay him $100 beforehand?

It is sick but they are consenting adults.

No, they are not consenting adults.
Many of them are immigrants or teens who are seduced by "boyfriends," then locked up or addicted to drugs against their will and used for porn until they are no longer of any use. Many end up as "ODs."

I think you've seen that Liam Neeson movie too many times. Professional porn in the US is a lucrative industry for the studios and the actors, they have exactly zero reason to resort to human trafficking and making photographic evidence of it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I do not watch any of that stuff but I do know most of them are paid actors.

Does being paid mean it's okay? Can I knock out a homeless man's teeth if I pay him $100 beforehand?

It is sick but they are consenting adults.

It is well-established that boundaries are routinely crossed once filming has begun. The "actors" don't stop when a woman says no, screams in pain, starts crying. If you're a woman alone in a room full of men who's objective it is to exploit you, the five hundred dollars you're making won't save you, nor does it protect you from these men's predatory natures.

Oh, honey. I promise you that you've never actually seen a real film involving abuse.

Oh, honey. I had a real problem with watching extreme porn - stopped nine months ago - and KNOW that I saw real abuse.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I do not watch any of that stuff but I do know most of them are paid actors.

Does being paid mean it's okay? Can I knock out a homeless man's teeth if I pay him $100 beforehand?

It is sick but they are consenting adults.

It is well-established that boundaries are routinely crossed once filming has begun. The "actors" don't stop when a woman says no, screams in pain, starts crying. If you're a woman alone in a room full of men who's objective it is to exploit you, the five hundred dollars you're making won't save you, nor does it protect you from these men's predatory natures.

Oh, honey. I promise you that you've never actually seen a real film involving abuse.

Oh, honey. I had a real problem with watching extreme porn - stopped nine months ago - and KNOW that I saw real abuse.

Well that's disgusting then, HONEY. You should be ashamed of yourself that that's what you're into. And you should be speaking on how you had to quit watching it, because that was one of OP's main points.

BTW, just because you were into some sickening, horrifying stuff that I won't even name, doesn't make this stuff any less disturbing. I'm sorry that you have been so putrified. Sucks to suck.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I've seen a lot of this. I also have friends in the industry (content side).

It's fake. I know the Latina Painal video referenced in the article too. They're part of a network of sites doing "gonzo" (reality) porn based out of Miami. BangBros is the company name.

Sometimes you'll catch slip-ups, like the girl's weaing earring and suddenly she's not, or her lipstick color changed. What happens is they missed a particular shot and had to re-shoot that part the next day.

These companies make millions. They have no incentive to risk their business by filming someone underage, or raping someone. Why put your business in jeapoardy when you can easily do it above-board (using actresses who agree to it)?

Also if you watch enough of it (I do, I'm male), you'll see the same rotation of actresses across the sites. If it was not consensual, they wouldn't be coming back to shoot more and more films.

Now, as for why people like it. One reason is these seem like "normal" girls that you'd just meet at a bar, so more genuine and not looking fake. The other reason is their being "surprised" the casting leads to sex portrays them as nice innocent girls not party sluts.. and guys like that fantasy.

Facts and reality have no place here. The narrative we're to believe is that porn stars are all unwilling, underaged human-trafficking victims who are repeatedly "raped" and "violated" on camera without their consent for $1/day and I'm sticking to it.

Many facts have been given, such as the fact that the average amount of time a girl spends in the porn industry is only 4 months, that she usually leaves without making much money, that many of these women were sexually abused. Care to address these facts? Thought not.