VA in-state options for 3.4 u/w (3.8 w) GPA

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[quote=Anonymous]I have to second the PP's comment about oddities with JMU/VT admissions. If anyone has any insight, I would be curious as to what is going on there. At DD's FCPS, everyone says its harder to get into JMU with the exception of VT/Engineering, abd that you need nearly 4.0. Is that true?


It was true for us last year. DD thought she wanted Va Tech engineering. We went to the open house for engineers - they posted on an overhead screen the stats. The average GPA was 4.0. They are ED (binding) so really thing that thru. DD thought she wanted Tech but ended up getting into UVA and many other better Tech schools like Purdue and Ga Tech so oddly wound up never applying to Va Tech because of ED. Had Tech been EA, she would have applied there in Nov. as well.

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Anonymous wrote:

VA Tech Common Data Set 2015-16:

SAT (25/75) M 560/670, CR 540/640, W 530/630

76% had 3.75 and above

39% in top 10% of class

*Unless OP's kid is looking at the engineering school which typically on the higher end of these stats, I'd say VT is a match.

The CDS for VT really doesn't apply to Northern VA high schools where the stats needed for acceptance are higher. I would say a 3.8 weighted would be the bare minimum, but the average accepted from my kids' HS is a 4.0. My DC had a weighted 3.4 and didn't even bother applying to VT, but got into schools like University of Minnesota, Twin Cities and Indiana University, Bloomington, which are similarly ranked (DC's ACT was in top 25% for those schools).

+ 1. It is very difficult to get into UVA, in particular, and William & Mary Tech from FCPS and other counties in No. Va. You have a much better chance of applying from anywhere else. Several of my DD's friends who really wanted GMU did not get in and were devastated because they were counting on it. You can't count on getting into any of the Va schools if applying from Mclean or Langley They can take only a few kids from each school. Our counselor (FCPS) wouldn't even consider putting DD up for UVA - the school supports only the very best students for that.

[Anonymous]

Wow so many clueless people

Those PSATs are great will get into anywhere besides W&M and UVA.

You need to look at class rank. If the 3.4/3.8 is top 25% of the class go ahead and apply to W&M/UVA if not its probably going to be too much to get in there

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wow so many clueless people

Those PSATs are great will get into anywhere besides W&M and UVA.

You need to look at class rank. If the 3.4/3.8 is top 25% of the class go ahead and apply to W&M/UVA if not its probably going to be too much to get in there

No, you are the clueless one. 90% of the 2020 graduating class was in the top 10% of their high school class. http://www.cavalierdaily.com/article/2016/03/university-releases-admission-decisions-for-class-of-2020

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^^guaranteed provided there is space in that incoming class.

I'd say that GMU and MWC are reaches with a 3.4 UW. Longwood, CNU (may also be a reach), JMU, VT. I know nothing about Radford other than its old old old women's college rep, but I'd guess it's an option too.

I recently spoke with a friend who is UVA alum - her son is applying to transfer into UVA as a sophomore. She spoke with the Legacy office and was told that her son's admission relied on how many kids were transferring in from community colleges with guaranteed admission. In other words, those kids were given priority over her son who is coming from a highly regarded SLAC with great grades and a legacy.

Well, the VA community colleges have rock solid contractual--guaranteed--transfer admission arrangements with UVA (and others). The requirements are not particularly rigorous. Rather easy, actually. It is truly one of the best deals in the country.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

VA Tech Common Data Set 2015-16:

SAT (25/75) M 560/670, CR 540/640, W 530/630

76% had 3.75 and above

39% in top 10% of class

*Unless OP's kid is looking at the engineering school which typically on the higher end of these stats, I'd say VT is a match.

The CDS for VT really doesn't apply to Northern VA high schools where the stats needed for acceptance are higher. I would say a 3.8 weighted would be the bare minimum, but the average accepted from my kids' HS is a 4.0. My DC had a weighted 3.4 and didn't even bother applying to VT, but got into schools like University of Minnesota, Twin Cities and Indiana University, Bloomington, which are similarly ranked (DC's ACT was in top 25% for those schools).

+ 1. It is very difficult to get into UVA, in particular, and William & Mary Tech from FCPS and other counties in No. Va. You have a much better chance of applying from anywhere else. Several of my DD's friends who really wanted GMU did not get in and were devastated because they were counting on it. You can't count on getting into any of the Va schools if applying from Mclean or Langley They can take only a few kids from each school. Our counselor (FCPS) wouldn't even consider putting DD up for UVA - the school supports only the very best students for that.

William and Mary Tech?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

VA Tech Common Data Set 2015-16:

SAT (25/75) M 560/670, CR 540/640, W 530/630

76% had 3.75 and above

39% in top 10% of class

*Unless OP's kid is looking at the engineering school which typically on the higher end of these stats, I'd say VT is a match.

The CDS for VT really doesn't apply to Northern VA high schools where the stats needed for acceptance are higher. I would say a 3.8 weighted would be the bare minimum, but the average accepted from my kids' HS is a 4.0. My DC had a weighted 3.4 and didn't even bother applying to VT, but got into schools like University of Minnesota, Twin Cities and Indiana University, Bloomington, which are similarly ranked (DC's ACT was in top 25% for those schools).

+ 1. It is very difficult to get into UVA, in particular, and William & Mary Tech from FCPS and other counties in No. Va. You have a much better chance of applying from anywhere else. Several of my DD's friends who really wanted GMU did not get in and were devastated because they were counting on it. You can't count on getting into any of the Va schools if applying from Mclean or Langley They can take only a few kids from each school. Our counselor (FCPS) wouldn't even consider putting DD up for UVA - the school supports only the very best students for that.

At W-L, 90 kids were accepted at Virginia Tech last year our out of 125 applicants (72%). UVA- 48 accepted with 140 applied (34%), William & Mary - 35/88 (40%). Certainly, there is self-selection as to who applies but it's more than a "few" that get in.

[Anonymous]

So excluding UVA and W&M -- what other schools should B/B+ Virginia students consider applying to in Virginia?

Also, what OOS options should be considered that are roughly equivalent to the in-state costs of schools like Radford, ODU, etc.?

[Anonymous]

Will they tell the kids outright if they are not going to be the onesDo the NOVA HS counselors only promote certain students to UVA and W & M? Will they tell the kids outright if they are not going to be the ones whose applications are supported? Do any get in without being designated by their HS?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So excluding UVA and W&M -- what other schools should B/B+ Virginia students consider applying to in Virginia?

Also, what OOS options should be considered that are roughly equivalent to the in-state costs of schools like Radford, ODU, etc.?

B/B+ students are routinely accepted (note I did not say "assured acceptance") at every VA public except UVA and W&M. After UVA and W&M, the better VA publics (in no particular order) are JMU, UMW, GMU, VCU, CNU, and--if the student is non-STEM--Tech. The better the test scores, the better the chances of admission at any of these schools.

A B/B+ student is unlikely to find many OOS options that are comparable to the in-state costs of VA publics.

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Anonymous wrote: Will they tell the kids outright if they are not going to be the onesDo the NOVA HS counselors only promote certain students to UVA and W & M? Will they tell the kids outright if they are not going to be the ones whose applications are supported? Do any get in without being designated by their HS?

I think most NoVA publics have access to Naviance, which can give you a good idea of your kid's chances of admission at any VA school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

VA Tech Common Data Set 2015-16:

SAT (25/75) M 560/670, CR 540/640, W 530/630

76% had 3.75 and above

39% in top 10% of class

*Unless OP's kid is looking at the engineering school which typically on the higher end of these stats, I'd say VT is a match.

The CDS for VT really doesn't apply to Northern VA high schools where the stats needed for acceptance are higher. I would say a 3.8 weighted would be the bare minimum, but the average accepted from my kids' HS is a 4.0. My DC had a weighted 3.4 and didn't even bother applying to VT, but got into schools like University of Minnesota, Twin Cities and Indiana University, Bloomington, which are similarly ranked (DC's ACT was in top 25% for those schools).

+ 1. It is very difficult to get into UVA, in particular, and William & Mary Tech from FCPS and other counties in No. Va. You have a much better chance of applying from anywhere else. Several of my DD's friends who really wanted GMU did not get in and were devastated because they were counting on it. You can't count on getting into any of the Va schools if applying from Mclean or Langley They can take only a few kids from each school. Our counselor (FCPS) wouldn't even consider putting DD up for UVA - the school supports only the very best students for that.

At W-L, 90 kids were accepted at Virginia Tech last year our out of 125 applicants (72%). UVA- 48 accepted with 140 applied (34%), William & Mary - 35/88 (40%). Certainly, there is self-selection as to who applies but it's more than a "few" that get in.

+1. I don't know why people are so convinced that it is impossible to get into UVA and W&M from NoVA high schools. The stats show otherwise.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

VA Tech Common Data Set 2015-16:

SAT (25/75) M 560/670, CR 540/640, W 530/630

76% had 3.75 and above

39% in top 10% of class

*Unless OP's kid is looking at the engineering school which typically on the higher end of these stats, I'd say VT is a match.

The CDS for VT really doesn't apply to Northern VA high schools where the stats needed for acceptance are higher. I would say a 3.8 weighted would be the bare minimum, but the average accepted from my kids' HS is a 4.0. My DC had a weighted 3.4 and didn't even bother applying to VT, but got into schools like University of Minnesota, Twin Cities and Indiana University, Bloomington, which are similarly ranked (DC's ACT was in top 25% for those schools).

+ 1. It is very difficult to get into UVA, in particular, and William & Mary Tech from FCPS and other counties in No. Va. You have a much better chance of applying from anywhere else. Several of my DD's friends who really wanted GMU did not get in and were devastated because they were counting on it. You can't count on getting into any of the Va schools if applying from Mclean or Langley They can take only a few kids from each school. Our counselor (FCPS) wouldn't even consider putting DD up for UVA - the school supports only the very best students for that.

At W-L, 90 kids were accepted at Virginia Tech last year our out of 125 applicants (72%). UVA- 48 accepted with 140 applied (34%), William & Mary - 35/88 (40%). Certainly, there is self-selection as to who applies but it's more than a "few" that get in.

+1. I don't know why people are so convinced that it is impossible to get into UVA and W&M from NoVA high schools. The stats show otherwise.

Those stats are amazing. My Junior DD has her heart set on UVA unfortunately the acceptance rate from her nova private is nowhere close- maybe 15%.

[Anonymous]

At W-L, 90 kids were accepted at Virginia Tech last year our out of 125 applicants (72%). UVA- 48 accepted with 140 applied (34%), William & Mary - 35/88 (40%). Certainly, there is self-selection as to who applies but it's more than a "few" that get in.

My kids' FCPS high school typically has around 100 kids with at least a 4.0, so many of the rejected kids from these schools are at that level or above.

In 2016, 43/120 got into W&M, 56/163 into UVA and 100/157 in VT (good year, some years it's <50%). A 3.8 will simply not get you into UVA or W&M and it's a bit iffy for VT, although they accept a wider range of GPAs. SATs: Average accepted for Tech is 1380, 1460 for UVA, 1450 for W&M

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

VA Tech Common Data Set 2015-16:

SAT (25/75) M 560/670, CR 540/640, W 530/630

76% had 3.75 and above

39% in top 10% of class

*Unless OP's kid is looking at the engineering school which typically on the higher end of these stats, I'd say VT is a match.

The CDS for VT really doesn't apply to Northern VA high schools where the stats needed for acceptance are higher. I would say a 3.8 weighted would be the bare minimum, but the average accepted from my kids' HS is a 4.0. My DC had a weighted 3.4 and didn't even bother applying to VT, but got into schools like University of Minnesota, Twin Cities and Indiana University, Bloomington, which are similarly ranked (DC's ACT was in top 25% for those schools).

+ 1. It is very difficult to get into UVA, in particular, and William & Mary Tech from FCPS and other counties in No. Va. You have a much better chance of applying from anywhere else. Several of my DD's friends who really wanted GMU did not get in and were devastated because they were counting on it. You can't count on getting into any of the Va schools if applying from Mclean or Langley They can take only a few kids from each school. Our counselor (FCPS) wouldn't even consider putting DD up for UVA - the school supports only the very best students for that.

At W-L, 90 kids were accepted at Virginia Tech last year our out of 125 applicants (72%). UVA- 48 accepted with 140 applied (34%), William & Mary - 35/88 (40%). Certainly, there is self-selection as to who applies but it's more than a "few" that get in.

+1. I don't know why people are so convinced that it is impossible to get into UVA and W&M from NoVA high schools. The stats show otherwise.

As a factual matter, I'd like to establish who said it is "impossible"?