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Anonymous wrote:If inside my body is less private than inside my house (where government can not search without a warrant), I don't know what is privacy anymore and where government intrusion can stop.


Killing is wrong... wherever you do it.

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Anonymous wrote:If fertilized embryo is a person bye bye IVF.


This would make an incredible sci-fi movie plot... Alt Right government takes over all IVF clinics and orders EVERY SINGLE FROZEN EMBRYO brought to life using surrogates. These children are raised in a government-military esq compound and used as weapons for the alt right as "savior babies".


Seriously, this is relevant. If people really want to base a "right to life" on "being a person" AND hold that an embryo is a person, then those frozen embryos have exactly as much right to life.


No, they don't. As any reasonable person with an understanding of basic biology (not many people in this discussion, unfortunately) knows, it takes three things to create life: A sperm, an Egg and a Host in which to grow the life. "Frozen Embryos" do not have a host to give them life.


Any person who knows anything about biology knows that a 4 week old cluster of cells isn't "a human" who can be murdered and yet this foolish argument is brought up in every abortion argument.


It may not be a "human being" -- yet. But it is Human Life.


And if you believe that, then you believe that the embryo has this "host" which the PP talks about. To think that there is human life in an embryo but that somehow it isn't present in a frozen embryo is the kind of silly magical thinking children engage in. Either an embryo is "human" in some way and deserves protection, or it's not. Whether somebody decided to stick it in the freezer is immaterial.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If inside my body is less private than inside my house (where government can not search without a warrant), I don't know what is privacy anymore and where government intrusion can stop.


Killing is wrong... wherever you do it.


And there isn't universal agreement that abortion is killing. You anti-choicers are such hypocrites.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If inside my body is less private than inside my house (where government can not search without a warrant), I don't know what is privacy anymore and where government intrusion can stop.


Killing is wrong... wherever you do it.


And there isn't universal agreement that abortion is killing. You anti-choicers are such hypocrites.

If you aren't "terminating" a life, what exactly are you terminating?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If inside my body is less private than inside my house (where government can not search without a warrant), I don't know what is privacy anymore and where government intrusion can stop.


Killing is wrong... wherever you do it.


And there isn't universal agreement that abortion is killing. You anti-choicers are such hypocrites.

If you aren't "terminating" a life, what exactly are you terminating?

A life. But it's not worth the same as a grown woman. You anti choicers keep thinking you're tricking people or going to prove a point or change minds; you aren't, any more than my point in out the inherently hypocritical stances that the Republucans hold - that is, opposing birth control on multiple fronts, opposing comprehensive sex ed, opposing legal abortion even with the knowledge it will continue with deadly consequences for the woman, and shredding every damn thread on the social safety net - will change your mind.

You're hateful creatures. You know abortion continues even when it's illegal. You want women punished. You want teenagers to be sterilized by an illegal abortion. It gets some of you so disgustingly hard. We see you. And you are gross.

(And I've never had an abortion - unlike many, many hypocritical anti-choicers!)
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If inside my body is less private than inside my house (where government can not search without a warrant), I don't know what is privacy anymore and where government intrusion can stop.


Killing is wrong... wherever you do it.


And there isn't universal agreement that abortion is killing. You anti-choicers are such hypocrites.

If you aren't "terminating" a life, what exactly are you terminating?


A pregnancy. A potential life.
Anonymous
Wow. You're just full of hate, 20:11. Get some help.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If inside my body is less private than inside my house (where government can not search without a warrant), I don't know what is privacy anymore and where government intrusion can stop.


Killing is wrong... wherever you do it.


And there isn't universal agreement that abortion is killing. You anti-choicers are such hypocrites.

If you aren't "terminating" a life, what exactly are you terminating?


A pregnancy. A potential life.

If it's living, it's a life. If it's not living, you wouldn't have to "terminate" it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If inside my body is less private than inside my house (where government can not search without a warrant), I don't know what is privacy anymore and where government intrusion can stop.


Killing is wrong... wherever you do it.


And there isn't universal agreement that abortion is killing. You anti-choicers are such hypocrites.

If you aren't "terminating" a life, what exactly are you terminating?


A pregnancy. A potential life.

If it's living, it's a life. If it's not living, you wouldn't have to "terminate" it.


You terminate contracts, not lives. If it were a life, it would be euthanasia. Or killing.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If inside my body is less private than inside my house (where government can not search without a warrant), I don't know what is privacy anymore and where government intrusion can stop.


Killing is wrong... wherever you do it.


And there isn't universal agreement that abortion is killing. You anti-choicers are such hypocrites.

If you aren't "terminating" a life, what exactly are you terminating?


The pregnancy is terminated, genius
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If inside my body is less private than inside my house (where government can not search without a warrant), I don't know what is privacy anymore and where government intrusion can stop.


Killing is wrong... wherever you do it.


And there isn't universal agreement that abortion is killing. You anti-choicers are such hypocrites.

If you aren't "terminating" a life, what exactly are you terminating?


The pregnancy is terminated, genius


B-I-N-G-O!

Pregnancy (dictionary.com) defined as:
"Having a child or other offspring developing in the body"

Thank you, thank you, thank you, PP, for FINALLY admitting the TRUTH.

Case closed.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If fertilized embryo is a person bye bye IVF.


This would make an incredible sci-fi movie plot... Alt Right government takes over all IVF clinics and orders EVERY SINGLE FROZEN EMBRYO brought to life using surrogates. These children are raised in a government-military esq compound and used as weapons for the alt right as "savior babies".


Seriously, this is relevant. If people really want to base a "right to life" on "being a person" AND hold that an embryo is a person, then those frozen embryos have exactly as much right to life.


No, they don't. As any reasonable person with an understanding of basic biology (not many people in this discussion, unfortunately) knows, it takes three things to create life: A sperm, an Egg and a Host in which to grow the life. "Frozen Embryos" do not have a host to give them life.


Any person who knows anything about biology knows that a 4 week old cluster of cells isn't "a human" who can be murdered and yet this foolish argument is brought up in every abortion argument.


It may not be a "human being" -- yet. But it is Human Life.


And if you believe that, then you believe that the embryo has this "host" which the PP talks about. To think that there is human life in an embryo but that somehow it isn't present in a frozen embryo is the kind of silly magical thinking children engage in. Either an embryo is "human" in some way and deserves protection, or it's not. Whether somebody decided to stick it in the freezer is immaterial.


Absolutely not true. Have you ever had a chemical or etopic pregnancy?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If inside my body is less private than inside my house (where government can not search without a warrant), I don't know what is privacy anymore and where government intrusion can stop.


Killing is wrong... wherever you do it.


And there isn't universal agreement that abortion is killing. You anti-choicers are such hypocrites.


But it is killing. And you know it. That's why you're so defensive about it. There is no other reaction for you, except anger.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If inside my body is less private than inside my house (where government can not search without a warrant), I don't know what is privacy anymore and where government intrusion can stop.


Killing is wrong... wherever you do it.


And there isn't universal agreement that abortion is killing. You anti-choicers are such hypocrites.

If you aren't "terminating" a life, what exactly are you terminating?


The pregnancy is terminated, genius


B-I-N-G-O!

Pregnancy (dictionary.com) defined as:
"Having a child or other offspring developing in the body"

Thank you, thank you, thank you, PP, for FINALLY admitting the TRUTH.

Case closed.



No it's not case closed. Your opinion is it is wrong to terminate a pregnancy that is unwanted. Many people disagree that that is a woman's right. Whether you believe it is or not should be immaterial if it's not your body.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If inside my body is less private than inside my house (where government can not search without a warrant), I don't know what is privacy anymore and where government intrusion can stop.


Killing is wrong... wherever you do it.


And there isn't universal agreement that abortion is killing. You anti-choicers are such hypocrites.

If you aren't "terminating" a life, what exactly are you terminating?


The pregnancy is terminated, genius


B-I-N-G-O!

Pregnancy (dictionary.com) defined as:
"Having a child or other offspring developing in the body"

Thank you, thank you, thank you, PP, for FINALLY admitting the TRUTH.

Case closed.



what is it you think you just proved? you realize that reproductive rights are not just a matter of semantics? you could deem that all zygotes are to be called babies and that still would not change the actual facts and rights involved.
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