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Anonymous wrote:If a woman is already 20 or 22 weeks pregnant, she doesn't have that much longer to go all things considered.

For God's sake, abortions should not be allowed that late in the game.

The mother can hold on for another 10 or 18 weeks and then choose adoption.

You don't understand what happens when pre-eclampsia becomes eclampsia, do you?
https://rewire.news/article/2009/07/01/how-a-lateterm-abortion-saved-my-life/

Or when the twin of the already dead baby is also in the process of dying within the woman?
https://www.facebook.com/alyson.draper/posts/10209809201680871

Your inability to understand what you do not know is exactly why medical decisions must be left in the informed hands of medical providers. Not you, and not people like you.

Those are not typical abortion on demand reasons.

A. Medical reasons ARE the reasons for abortions at that gestational age. If you think that these are atypical reasons for abortions at 20 to 22 weeks, then you do not know what you are talking about. You care more about your ideology than you do the actual facts of the matter, which means you don't take it seriously at all. You should care more about it.

B. You -- or whomever you are supporting, who wrote the above -- did not say that "some" abortions should nto be allowed at the time. He or she said that they all should not be permitted, because it was only a matter of inconvenience. Again, you people should care more, if you think this is important. You're speaking about it like you get your information from bubble gum wrappers.

Trust me,these low information idiots probably also believe doctors everywhere are routinely aborting 38 week gestational babies and then murdering them in the OR because "mom changed her mind." The ways people are uninformed about abortion but want to have strong opinions and make laws about it is sickening.

This. Which always leads me to wonder if they're very young, men, or very old. No decisions in pregnancy or L and D are undertaken without the doctor and mother weighing every decision as to how it will affect both. No doc is merrily offing healthy term babies at Mom's behest.

For those actually interested in late term stories: https://drjengunter.wordpress.com/2016/06/22/what-you-learn-from-doing-abortions-after-20-weeks/

Not merrily, but doctors in abortion clinics due perform abortions at a woman's request.

Exactly. Just awful.

Pray to god you or your daughters or sisters never need one. You would be singing QUITE a different tune.

You have no clue. It's STILL awful.

LMAO!! You want all women to have to abide by your religious beliefs and can't possibly see how their life situation might vastly differ from yours yet *I* am the one who has no clue. That's hilarious.

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Anonymous wrote:If a woman is already 20 or 22 weeks pregnant, she doesn't have that much longer to go all things considered.

For God's sake, abortions should not be allowed that late in the game.

The mother can hold on for another 10 or 18 weeks and then choose adoption.

You don't understand what happens when pre-eclampsia becomes eclampsia, do you?
https://rewire.news/article/2009/07/01/how-a-lateterm-abortion-saved-my-life/

Or when the twin of the already dead baby is also in the process of dying within the woman?
https://www.facebook.com/alyson.draper/posts/10209809201680871

Your inability to understand what you do not know is exactly why medical decisions must be left in the informed hands of medical providers. Not you, and not people like you.

Those are not typical abortion on demand reasons.

A. Medical reasons ARE the reasons for abortions at that gestational age. If you think that these are atypical reasons for abortions at 20 to 22 weeks, then you do not know what you are talking about. You care more about your ideology than you do the actual facts of the matter, which means you don't take it seriously at all. You should care more about it.

B. You -- or whomever you are supporting, who wrote the above -- did not say that "some" abortions should nto be allowed at the time. He or she said that they all should not be permitted, because it was only a matter of inconvenience. Again, you people should care more, if you think this is important. You're speaking about it like you get your information from bubble gum wrappers.

Trust me,these low information idiots probably also believe doctors everywhere are routinely aborting 38 week gestational babies and then murdering them in the OR because "mom changed her mind." The ways people are uninformed about abortion but want to have strong opinions and make laws about it is sickening.

This. Which always leads me to wonder if they're very young, men, or very old. No decisions in pregnancy or L and D are undertaken without the doctor and mother weighing every decision as to how it will affect both. No doc is merrily offing healthy term babies at Mom's behest.

For those actually interested in late term stories: https://drjengunter.wordpress.com/2016/06/22/what-you-learn-from-doing-abortions-after-20-weeks/

Not merrily, but doctors in abortion clinics due perform abortions at a woman's request.

Exactly. Just awful.

Pray to god you or your daughters or sisters never need one. You would be singing QUITE a different tune.

You have no clue. It's STILL awful.

LMAO!! You want all women to have to abide by your religious beliefs and can't possibly see how their life situation might vastly differ from yours yet *I* am the one who has no clue. That's hilarious.

FYI, you're the one spouting your religion here, not me. Keep up.

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Anonymous wrote:If a woman is already 20 or 22 weeks pregnant, she doesn't have that much longer to go all things considered.

For God's sake, abortions should not be allowed that late in the game.

The mother can hold on for another 10 or 18 weeks and then choose adoption.

You don't understand what happens when pre-eclampsia becomes eclampsia, do you?
https://rewire.news/article/2009/07/01/how-a-lateterm-abortion-saved-my-life/

Or when the twin of the already dead baby is also in the process of dying within the woman?
https://www.facebook.com/alyson.draper/posts/10209809201680871

Your inability to understand what you do not know is exactly why medical decisions must be left in the informed hands of medical providers. Not you, and not people like you.

Those are not typical abortion on demand reasons.

A. Medical reasons ARE the reasons for abortions at that gestational age. If you think that these are atypical reasons for abortions at 20 to 22 weeks, then you do not know what you are talking about. You care more about your ideology than you do the actual facts of the matter, which means you don't take it seriously at all. You should care more about it.

B. You -- or whomever you are supporting, who wrote the above -- did not say that "some" abortions should nto be allowed at the time. He or she said that they all should not be permitted, because it was only a matter of inconvenience. Again, you people should care more, if you think this is important. You're speaking about it like you get your information from bubble gum wrappers.

Trust me,these low information idiots probably also believe doctors everywhere are routinely aborting 38 week gestational babies and then murdering them in the OR because "mom changed her mind." The ways people are uninformed about abortion but want to have strong opinions and make laws about it is sickening.

This. Which always leads me to wonder if they're very young, men, or very old. No decisions in pregnancy or L and D are undertaken without the doctor and mother weighing every decision as to how it will affect both. No doc is merrily offing healthy term babies at Mom's behest.

For those actually interested in late term stories: https://drjengunter.wordpress.com/2016/06/22/what-you-learn-from-doing-abortions-after-20-weeks/

Not merrily, but doctors in abortion clinics due perform abortions at a woman's request.

Exactly. Just awful.

Pray to god you or your daughters or sisters never need one. You would be singing QUITE a different tune.

You have no clue. It's STILL awful.

LMAO!! You want all women to have to abide by your religious beliefs and can't possibly see how their life situation might vastly differ from yours yet *I* am the one who has no clue. That's hilarious.

FYI, you're the one spouting your religion here, not me. Keep up.

I haven't mentioned religion a single time. It's gobbledygook that destroys lives as far as I'm concerned.

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First of all, Nancy Pelosi uses the term "abortion on demand." Also, it's certainly anecdotal, but every woman I've known who had an abortion was either an unmarried teen or a married or single woman in her 20's - 30's who did not feel she could support another child at that time.

And are you implying these were third trimester abortions?

[Anonymous]

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First of all, Nancy Pelosi uses the term "abortion on demand." Also, it's certainly anecdotal, but every woman I've known who had an abortion was either an unmarried teen or a married or single woman in her 20's - 30's who did not feel she could support another child at that time.

And are you implying these were third trimester abortions?

Surely she can't be. But if they were first trimester abortions (assuming these aren't completely made up) then those are perfectly valid reasons to get an abortion.

If she's claiming or insinuating these were 2nd or 3rd trimester abortions, she's lying her ass off.

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First of all, Nancy Pelosi uses the term "abortion on demand." Also, it's certainly anecdotal, but every woman I've known who had an abortion was either an unmarried teen or a married or single woman in her 20's - 30's who did not feel she could support another child at that time.

And are you implying these were third trimester abortions?

Surely she can't be. But if they were first trimester abortions (assuming these aren't completely made up) then those are perfectly valid reasons to get an abortion.

If she's claiming or insinuating these were 2nd or 3rd trimester abortions, she's lying her ass off.

Well, that's my take on it, too. We'll see.

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Anonymous wrote:If a woman is already 20 or 22 weeks pregnant, she doesn't have that much longer to go all things considered.

For God's sake, abortions should not be allowed that late in the game.

The mother can hold on for another 10 or 18 weeks and then choose adoption.

You don't understand what happens when pre-eclampsia becomes eclampsia, do you?
https://rewire.news/article/2009/07/01/how-a-lateterm-abortion-saved-my-life/

Or when the twin of the already dead baby is also in the process of dying within the woman?
https://www.facebook.com/alyson.draper/posts/10209809201680871

Your inability to understand what you do not know is exactly why medical decisions must be left in the informed hands of medical providers. Not you, and not people like you.

Those are not typical abortion on demand reasons.

A. Medical reasons ARE the reasons for abortions at that gestational age. If you think that these are atypical reasons for abortions at 20 to 22 weeks, then you do not know what you are talking about. You care more about your ideology than you do the actual facts of the matter, which means you don't take it seriously at all. You should care more about it.

B. You -- or whomever you are supporting, who wrote the above -- did not say that "some" abortions should nto be allowed at the time. He or she said that they all should not be permitted, because it was only a matter of inconvenience. Again, you people should care more, if you think this is important. You're speaking about it like you get your information from bubble gum wrappers.

Trust me,these low information idiots probably also believe doctors everywhere are routinely aborting 38 week gestational babies and then murdering them in the OR because "mom changed her mind." The ways people are uninformed about abortion but want to have strong opinions and make laws about it is sickening.

This. Which always leads me to wonder if they're very young, men, or very old. No decisions in pregnancy or L and D are undertaken without the doctor and mother weighing every decision as to how it will affect both. No doc is merrily offing healthy term babies at Mom's behest.

For those actually interested in late term stories: https://drjengunter.wordpress.com/2016/06/22/what-you-learn-from-doing-abortions-after-20-weeks/

Not merrily, but doctors in abortion clinics due perform abortions at a woman's request.

Exactly. Just awful.

Pray to god you or your daughters or sisters never need one. You would be singing QUITE a different tune.

You have no clue. It's STILL awful.

LMAO!! You want all women to have to abide by your religious beliefs and can't possibly see how their life situation might vastly differ from yours yet *I* am the one who has no clue. That's hilarious.

FYI, you're the one spouting your religion here, not me. Keep up.

I haven't mentioned religion a single time. It's gobbledygook that destroys lives as far as I'm concerned.

I responded to the "religious belief" 6:04 poster, Einstein. You so confused.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If a woman is already 20 or 22 weeks pregnant, she doesn't have that much longer to go all things considered.

For God's sake, abortions should not be allowed that late in the game.

The mother can hold on for another 10 or 18 weeks and then choose adoption.

You don't understand what happens when pre-eclampsia becomes eclampsia, do you?
https://rewire.news/article/2009/07/01/how-a-lateterm-abortion-saved-my-life/

Or when the twin of the already dead baby is also in the process of dying within the woman?
https://www.facebook.com/alyson.draper/posts/10209809201680871

Your inability to understand what you do not know is exactly why medical decisions must be left in the informed hands of medical providers. Not you, and not people like you.

Those are not typical abortion on demand reasons.

A. Medical reasons ARE the reasons for abortions at that gestational age. If you think that these are atypical reasons for abortions at 20 to 22 weeks, then you do not know what you are talking about. You care more about your ideology than you do the actual facts of the matter, which means you don't take it seriously at all. You should care more about it.

B. You -- or whomever you are supporting, who wrote the above -- did not say that "some" abortions should nto be allowed at the time. He or she said that they all should not be permitted, because it was only a matter of inconvenience. Again, you people should care more, if you think this is important. You're speaking about it like you get your information from bubble gum wrappers.

Trust me,these low information idiots probably also believe doctors everywhere are routinely aborting 38 week gestational babies and then murdering them in the OR because "mom changed her mind." The ways people are uninformed about abortion but want to have strong opinions and make laws about it is sickening.

This. Which always leads me to wonder if they're very young, men, or very old. No decisions in pregnancy or L and D are undertaken without the doctor and mother weighing every decision as to how it will affect both. No doc is merrily offing healthy term babies at Mom's behest.

For those actually interested in late term stories: https://drjengunter.wordpress.com/2016/06/22/what-you-learn-from-doing-abortions-after-20-weeks/

Not merrily, but doctors in abortion clinics due perform abortions at a woman's request.

Exactly. Just awful.

Pray to god you or your daughters or sisters never need one. You would be singing QUITE a different tune.

You have no clue. It's STILL awful.

LMAO!! You want all women to have to abide by your religious beliefs and can't possibly see how their life situation might vastly differ from yours yet *I* am the one who has no clue. That's hilarious.

FYI, you're the one spouting your religion here, not me. Keep up.

I haven't mentioned religion a single time. It's gobbledygook that destroys lives as far as I'm concerned.

I responded to the "religious belief" 6:04 poster, Einstein. You so confused.

I AM 604, moron. I haven't brought up religion at all. You and your posse of "life begins at conception" fools did. And despite knowing nothing about the actual act of abortion or why and how it's done you cling to that BS to tell other women what to do with their bodies.

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Fact: A majority of late term abortions are a result of identified defects that are not compatible with survival. Why? Because many women have a 20 week scan of their fetus and it's in the course of this ultrasound - a process by which a doctor evaluates the development of the fetus - that deadly trisomies and/or congenital defects are found. Some of these can be identified through early chromosomal testing of the fetus, but not all (heart or brain defects that are not chromosomal in nature).

Imagine being a mom and dad and discovering that your child has, for example, Trisomy 18. Or had a serious congenital defect that would prevent the child to survive more than a few hours or days. This heartbreak would only be compounded if you didn't have a choice in whether to continue to pregnancy, a pregnancy that would last another 20 weeks, potentially and only extend an unspeakable anguish. Yes, of course, some parents choose to birth the baby ... And that is their choice. But I can't imagine preventing parents from making a choice to end the pregnancy and spare themselves - and the child - continued suffering.

Throwing this out there because late term abortions aren't "just" women who haven't been able to make up their mind about whether to have a child (though I believe that to be a legitimate choice), but often these are women facing the terrible reality that their child if not born stillborn will be alive for a tiny fraction of time and suffering.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
First of all, Nancy Pelosi uses the term "abortion on demand." Also, it's certainly anecdotal, but every woman I've known who had an abortion was either an unmarried teen or a married or single woman in her 20's - 30's who did not feel she could support another child at that time.

And are you implying these were third trimester abortions?

Surely she can't be. But if they were first trimester abortions (assuming these aren't completely made up) then those are perfectly valid reasons to get an abortion.

If she's claiming or insinuating these were 2nd or 3rd trimester abortions, she's lying her ass off.

I'm the "she" you mentioned; I never said a word about 2nd or 3rd trimester abortions and didn't imply anything.

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Anonymous wrote:
First of all, Nancy Pelosi uses the term "abortion on demand." Also, it's certainly anecdotal, but every woman I've known who had an abortion was either an unmarried teen or a married or single woman in her 20's - 30's who did not feel she could support another child at that time.

And are you implying these were third trimester abortions?

NO. Not sure where you'd get that idea.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If a woman is already 20 or 22 weeks pregnant, she doesn't have that much longer to go all things considered.

For God's sake, abortions should not be allowed that late in the game.

The mother can hold on for another 10 or 18 weeks and then choose adoption.

You don't understand what happens when pre-eclampsia becomes eclampsia, do you?
https://rewire.news/article/2009/07/01/how-a-lateterm-abortion-saved-my-life/

Or when the twin of the already dead baby is also in the process of dying within the woman?
https://www.facebook.com/alyson.draper/posts/10209809201680871

Your inability to understand what you do not know is exactly why medical decisions must be left in the informed hands of medical providers. Not you, and not people like you.

Those are not typical abortion on demand reasons.

A. Medical reasons ARE the reasons for abortions at that gestational age. If you think that these are atypical reasons for abortions at 20 to 22 weeks, then you do not know what you are talking about. You care more about your ideology than you do the actual facts of the matter, which means you don't take it seriously at all. You should care more about it.

B. You -- or whomever you are supporting, who wrote the above -- did not say that "some" abortions should nto be allowed at the time. He or she said that they all should not be permitted, because it was only a matter of inconvenience. Again, you people should care more, if you think this is important. You're speaking about it like you get your information from bubble gum wrappers.

Trust me,these low information idiots probably also believe doctors everywhere are routinely aborting 38 week gestational babies and then murdering them in the OR because "mom changed her mind." The ways people are uninformed about abortion but want to have strong opinions and make laws about it is sickening.

This. Which always leads me to wonder if they're very young, men, or very old. No decisions in pregnancy or L and D are undertaken without the doctor and mother weighing every decision as to how it will affect both. No doc is merrily offing healthy term babies at Mom's behest.

For those actually interested in late term stories: https://drjengunter.wordpress.com/2016/06/22/what-you-learn-from-doing-abortions-after-20-weeks/

Not merrily, but doctors in abortion clinics due perform abortions at a woman's request.

At 38 weeks? Liar.

This response had nothing to do with late-term abortions.

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... No doc is merrily offing healthy term babies at Mom's behest.

...Not merrily, but doctors in abortion clinics due perform abortions at a woman's request.

At 38 weeks? Liar.

This response had nothing to do with late-term abortions.

This was all in response to the claim about "healthy term babies" in bold above. Babies are considered term at 38 weeks.

If the response had nothing to do with late term abortions, then the response shouldn't have been posted in a thread about late-term abortions (bolded. even moreso) without clarification.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

... No doc is merrily offing healthy term babies at Mom's behest.

...Not merrily, but doctors in abortion clinics due perform abortions at a woman's request.

At 38 weeks? Liar.

This response had nothing to do with late-term abortions.

This was all in response to the claim about "healthy term babies" in bold above. Babies are considered term at 38 weeks.

If the response had nothing to do with late term abortions, then the response shouldn't have been posted in a thread about late-term abortions (bolded. even moreso) without clarification.

I see what you mean and didn't read carefully--sorry for the confusion. Was initially responding to comments about abortion on demand.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If a woman is already 20 or 22 weeks pregnant, she doesn't have that much longer to go all things considered.

For God's sake, abortions should not be allowed that late in the game.

The mother can hold on for another 10 or 18 weeks and then choose adoption.

You don't understand what happens when pre-eclampsia becomes eclampsia, do you?
https://rewire.news/article/2009/07/01/how-a-lateterm-abortion-saved-my-life/

Or when the twin of the already dead baby is also in the process of dying within the woman?
https://www.facebook.com/alyson.draper/posts/10209809201680871

Your inability to understand what you do not know is exactly why medical decisions must be left in the informed hands of medical providers. Not you, and not people like you.

Those are not typical abortion on demand reasons.

A. Medical reasons ARE the reasons for abortions at that gestational age. If you think that these are atypical reasons for abortions at 20 to 22 weeks, then you do not know what you are talking about. You care more about your ideology than you do the actual facts of the matter, which means you don't take it seriously at all. You should care more about it.

B. You -- or whomever you are supporting, who wrote the above -- did not say that "some" abortions should nto be allowed at the time. He or she said that they all should not be permitted, because it was only a matter of inconvenience. Again, you people should care more, if you think this is important. You're speaking about it like you get your information from bubble gum wrappers.

Trust me,these low information idiots probably also believe doctors everywhere are routinely aborting 38 week gestational babies and then murdering them in the OR because "mom changed her mind." The ways people are uninformed about abortion but want to have strong opinions and make laws about it is sickening.

This. Which always leads me to wonder if they're very young, men, or very old. No decisions in pregnancy or L and D are undertaken without the doctor and mother weighing every decision as to how it will affect both. No doc is merrily offing healthy term babies at Mom's behest.

For those actually interested in late term stories: https://drjengunter.wordpress.com/2016/06/22/what-you-learn-from-doing-abortions-after-20-weeks/

Not merrily, but doctors in abortion clinics due perform abortions at a woman's request.

Well, yes, of course doctors in AB clinics perform ABs at the woman's request. All abortions are at the woman's request. Who else do you think should be able to request an abortion for a woman?