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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]If fertilized embryo is a person bye bye IVF.
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This would make an incredible sci-fi movie plot... Alt Right government takes over all IVF clinics and orders EVERY SINGLE FROZEN EMBRYO brought to life using surrogates. These children are raised in a government-military esq compound and used as weapons for the alt right as "savior babies".[/quote]

Seriously, this is relevant. If people really want to base a "right to life" on "being a person" AND hold that an embryo is a person, then those frozen embryos have exactly as much right to life.[/quote]

No, they don't. As any reasonable person with an understanding of basic biology (not many people in this discussion, unfortunately) knows, it takes three things to create life: A sperm, an Egg and a Host in which to grow the life. "Frozen Embryos" do not have a host to give them life.[/quote]

Any person who knows anything about biology knows that a 4 week old cluster of cells isn't "a human" who can be murdered and yet this foolish argument is brought up in every abortion argument. [/quote]

It may not be a "human being" -- yet.  But it is Human Life.[/quote]

And if you believe that, then you believe that the embryo has this "host" which the PP talks about. To think that there is human life in an embryo but that somehow it isn't present in a frozen embryo is the kind of silly magical thinking children engage in. Either an embryo is "human" in some way and deserves protection, or it's not. Whether somebody decided to stick it in the freezer is immaterial.[/quote]

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