Tenley Chick Filet takes measures against loitering after school by students, including Wilson

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Anonymous wrote:Good call on the kids standing on the car being high. That is a big issue and very concerning at all the high schools these days (public and private).

Exactly. Focus on real issues, not swearing.

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What does the chic fila in Columbia heights do? If it's the same, I have no problem with this "discrimination".

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Anonymous wrote:I work in the neighborhood and came out to find three Wilson students standing on my car.

Not the biggest deal and slinked off when mildly confronted, but can't blame any of our neighborhood businesses for implementing the policies mentioned above.

If you responded with "no big deal" I applaud you. Many a person would have escalated that incident physically instantly. Standing on somebody else's car is simply not acceptable by ANY stretch.

Funny how this thread has proven OP's original point. People are coming about this from different angles and different paradigms and the just like Sisyphus, the boulder keeps rolling back down the hill.

Amazing, these animals are so out of control that we are ok with a level of criminal activity that is less severe than assault and murder

"Animals" PP, this makes me want to throw up. I guess you deserve credit for making the subtext into actual text - and I suspect you would view these kids as "animals" even if they behaved like 90-year old spinsters.

[Anonymous]

The neighborhood are basically hosts. I think its funny that by basically asking for attention to be given to steering positive behavior of the young people who flow through every day -may live here, may not - but acknowledging that impact and working to make it the best it could be gets so much pushback. Would GU get so much sympathy if its students were standing on peoples cars? Howard? The point is not that young people will never do these things; the point is giving them a joined message of what is or isn't going to fly - and diverting their energies to productive activities, non harmful fun and so forth. And yes, there should be a police officer at dismissal who knows the children by name. A COMMUNITY policing officer. Maybe the principal should stroll out and see what's going on. You think you care about these kids, the presence if such known adults might prevent the next fight where a knife is pulled. Might. But this is just one idea. No one wants to provide a real forum and listen however. Just let the madness continue and everyone adapt in their own ways whether through restrictions or negativity and anger.

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And just to add some perspective, Tenleytown is an overwhelmingly liberal and hybrid neighborhood. These are people who would give themselves west nile and zika to save a few bees. To see this many people speak up and sign their names and say they are basically horrified (and some fearful) from the behaviors they've witnessed or experiences I would say takes a lot . This deserves a hearing.

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when are the new Wilson boundaries going into effect? that may improve some of the over crowding and bad behavior associated with the school.

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I find it interesting that the discussion happened on the Cleveland park list Serv but not the tenleytown or AU park lust Serv.

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CP list serve is the most robust and many people who live up through Tenley and even AU subscribe. Also, I'm guessing Wilson is the inbounds High School for CP. As a Tenley resident, I feel linked to neighborhoods from Friendship Heights through Cathedral through CP through Woodley park. Even Dupont to an extent. The small neighborhoods up and down Connecticut and Wisconsin have similar pockets of commerce and activity.

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Y'all do realize that the franchise operator for the Tenley location is AA, right? So go ahead and put your race cards back in your wallets.

Stop excusing the behavior of these kids as just normal high school behavior. It's not. On the metro platform I've seen these kids physically intimidate people who ask them to behave. One time, I saw a kid throw a lit firecrack into train as the doors were closing. There are probably crimes committed on a weekly basis that go unreported because everyone know there will be no repercussions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Y'all do realize that the franchise operator for the Tenley location is AA, right? So go ahead and put your race cards back in your wallets.

Stop excusing the behavior of these kids as just normal high school behavior. It's not. On the metro platform I've seen these kids physically intimidate people who ask them to behave. One time, I saw a kid throw a lit firecrack into train as the doors were closing. There are probably crimes committed on a weekly basis that go unreported because everyone know there will be no repercussions.

I agree with the spirit of what you are saying, but I think a lot of people don't report the crime because they see themselves as nice "can't everyone get along" people. The person who I saw hit with a rock by kids in Tenleytown looked so perplexed. He did stop and address the kids, but he clearly had to get somewhere and kept going rather than report them for what was technically assault. They shrugged at him but then continued on their little roll down the street--stopping cars in traffic, daring people to run them over etc. I reported them to a passing officer because I did not want to see the behavior escalate and I was frankly disturbed that anyone thought it was a good idea to throw rocks (small) at passing cars or people.
People need to understand that this behavior is not their fault and they weren't asking for it. These kids are seeing how much they can get away with, and the collective response needs to be--you can get away with behaving civilly. That's it. Otherwise, there will be some sort of repercussion. WHY would you wish to teach kids otherwise? The repercussion, if a police community officer is stationed, is probably a warning. But that's better than someone crashing their car due to a projectile, people changing their shopping behavior etc. Enough is enough. This is a shared space.

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I agree with you. I lived near the Tenlytown metro from 1994-2004 so my experience is old, but I witnessed scuffles, verbal altercations, one serious girl fight, extremely course language and manners a, objects being thrown at cars and buses, and objects hitting pedestrians inadvertently because kids were messing around.

I was never physically scared, but it is really uncomfortable to listen to kids calling each other b**** and n***** in both confrontational and non-confrontational ways. It also visibly bothered many other adults waiting for buses or walking through to the metro, of all races. It is related to SES more than race, but at Wilson that means it is black kids.

[Anonymous]

I think the other reason you don't see more people standing up for themselves is because of what happened to that Metro rider last year. When you stand up to one of these punks you end up fighting about 20 of them by yourself, with no police to be found.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the other reason you don't see more people standing up for themselves is because of what happened to that Metro rider last year. When you stand up to one of these punks you end up fighting about 20 of them by yourself, with no police to be found.

No the reason is no one wants to get in a fight with a kid.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the other reason you don't see more people standing up for themselves is because of what happened to that Metro rider last year. When you stand up to one of these punks you end up fighting about 20 of them by yourself, with no police to be found.

No the reason is no one wants to get in a fight with a kid.

Wrong! As a nearby resident who has experienced the taunting "watcha gonna do bout this, bitch?" behavior where teen physically leans on my car as soon as I lock it in the CVS parking lot .... the actual reason I don't 'stand up for myself' and tell him to get off of my car is exactly because I want to avoid escalation and the risk of what happened to those several Metro riders who were attacked by same-age teens from 4-7 pm.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the other reason you don't see more people standing up for themselves is because of what happened to that Metro rider last year. When you stand up to one of these punks you end up fighting about 20 of them by yourself, with no police to be found.

No the reason is no one wants to get in a fight with a kid.

Wrong! As a nearby resident who has experienced the taunting "watcha gonna do bout this, bitch?" behavior where teen physically leans on my car as soon as I lock it in the CVS parking lot .... the actual reason I don't 'stand up for myself' and tell him to get off of my car is exactly because I want to avoid escalation and the risk of what happened to those several Metro riders who were attacked by same-age teens from 4-7 pm.

Given that as neighbors we know that kids from Wilson have jumped or knifed each other in Tenleytown, who would seek a confrontation? There needs to be some consideration and support from the school, police and city authorities for these neighborhood and business concerns . People have experienced it individually, but it has a collective impact.