s/o What happened to Natalie Holloway?

[Anonymous]

It’s ridiculous that women are expected to stay sober in the rare care that a serial killer might be looking for a victim.

There were date rape drugs found in the car of his other victim, so I’m skeptical that alcohol was the only thing affecting Holloway’s mental capacity.

[Anonymous]

I'm not really sure why this is still a question. He drugged her, raped her and sharks ate her.

I'm glad he is being brought to justice in some way. IDK i thought he was killed in jail, anyway.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think she got drink, raped, killed and dumped on the ocean. This is a big part of why I hate alcohol, especially for young people. You just don't make sound decisions nor have the ability to care for yourself when impaired. Dumb girl got drunk.

The club she went to was known for drugging women’s drinks. Bartenders involved

That's a scary thought.

This happened to my friend too. It’s sadly not uncommon. Fortunately, we realized she’d been separated from us and we found her just as he - the bartender- was leading her into a storage room. We took her to the ER because she was acting so different and they kept asking her if she took drugs but she had not.

WATCH them make your drinks.

W

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:exactly. it is NOT victim blaming to point out that getting drunk has risks.

It is, actually. That is the definition of victim blaming.

What’s wrong with victim blaming? Are you telling your teenage daughters that it’s perfectly fine to go get drunk at the age of 18 and leave a bar with a strange guy? People who die while drunk driving, people who don’t wear helmets while riding a bike, people who go on hikes in the desert without enough water - it’s a tragedy when some of them die, but acknowledging that they were being reckless is how we learn not to make the same mistakes ourselves.

Legal drinking again Aruba is 18. Yes it absolutely ok for her to have a drink. Yes it absolutely ok for her to have sex. What's NOT OK is the guy killing her.

Of course it’s not ok for him to kill her. But saying that everything is fine as long as it’s legal is an inane argument. It’s legal to do a lot of risky behaviors. It’s legal to buy a gun and sleep with it loaded under your pillow, but most of us wouldn’t recommend it. It’s legal to go out for a midnight jog along the street wearing all black, but most of us wouldn’t recommend it.

She absolutely didn’t deserve to be killed, but if the witnesses were correct about how drunk she was, then her choices endangered her. Just like teens who pile into a car with the radio blaring and get distracted, like people who go for a day hike and don’t pack extra layers/water in case. They don’t deserve bad things, but it’s naive to think actions don’t have consequences.

I can’t believe you’re equating dangerous driving with being raped and killed. The ONLY person who is responsible for her choice in this situation is the rapist and murderer. If she passed out and got a fatal head wound, you would have a point. The problem was that the guy she met was a rapist and a murderer.

She could have been drugged. Stop victim blaming.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As others point out, she could have been drugged. Or wasn’t drunk. So stop speculating she was. And it’s pretty irrelevant to fault.

Joran did it and he’s a piece of sh—— for lots of reasons. But not telling the family the truth is despicable.

Give it a rest. Even her mother agrees she was drinking.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/natalee-holloway-new-clues/

Again, so what?

[Anonymous]

He admitted it.

And he killed her because she refused to have sex with him.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/18/us/joran-van-der-sloot-natalee-holloway-plea-wednesday/index.html

[Anonymous]

Didn't joran end up getting a fat Peruvian woman pregnant and marrying her? Are they still married?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He admitted it.

And he killed her because she refused to have sex with him.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/18/us/joran-van-der-sloot-natalee-holloway-plea-wednesday/index.html

If Daily Mail is correct, he gave specific details and Natalie's mom believed him.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12644725/Joran-van-der-sloot-Natalee-Holloway-sentencing.html

[Anonymous]

I don't believe him. He says he waded knee deep into the water and dumped the body right there? No way. It would have washed ashore. POS is still telling lies all these years later.

[Anonymous]

I dont believe him either. His choice of words are very odd.

[Anonymous]

I remember watching a tv episode about it and they speculated that he may have buried her in a construction site that now has a big hotel on it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I remember watching a tv episode about it and they speculated that he may have buried her in a construction site that now has a big hotel on it.

Joran said that at one point (I think when he was trying to extort money from the family). He's said a lot of different things over the years so I'm not sure why anybody would believe him now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I remember watching a tv episode about it and they speculated that he may have buried her in a construction site that now has a big hotel on it.

they looked into that lie as well, there was no building going on at that time he said he dumped her.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:He admitted it.

And he killed her because she refused to have sex with him.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/18/us/joran-van-der-sloot-natalee-holloway-plea-wednesday/index.html

If Daily Mail is correct, he gave specific details and Natalie's mom believed him.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12644725/Joran-van-der-sloot-Natalee-Holloway-sentencing.html

I don't believe him either. But I understand her mother believing him. She needs the closure and the peace.

[Anonymous]

Her poor mother.