s/o What happened to Natalie Holloway?

[Anonymous]

Not officially, but many people believe that she left a bar w/Jordan van dear Sloot & that he myrdered her that evening.

Her poor parents may never get the closure they so desperately deserve. ;(

[Anonymous]

*murdered

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How do we know she was drunk?

There were witnesses that said she had been drinking "all day, everyday" on the trip, and witnesses that said she was drinking heavily that night.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not officially, but many people believe that she left a bar w/Jordan van dear Sloot & that he myrdered her that evening.

Her poor parents may never get the closure they so desperately deserve. ;(

I think any doubt of his guilt was removed when he killed Flores. His father and Aruban authorities are partially responsible for her death, IMO. If they didn't try to protect van der Sloot, that woman would still be alive.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:9:53 and 10:03, you should be ashamed of yourself, blaming the victim.

No one is blaming the victim. It's not blaming to say that you're probably safer if sober and not drunk. That's true in all kinds of circumstances, unless you can completely trust the person(s) you're hanging out with.

Ugh, when I think of the stupor in which I spent my twenties I cannot believe I am alive today.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not officially, but many people believe that she left a bar w/Jordan van dear Sloot & that he myrdered her that evening.

Her poor parents may never get the closure they so desperately deserve. ;(

I think any doubt of his guilt was removed when he killed Flores. His father and Aruban authorities are partially responsible for her death, IMO. If they didn't try to protect van der Sloot, that woman would still be alive.

Wonder why Flores would have been with a suspected murderer.

[Anonymous]

If I were Natalie's mom/dad, I would not rest until Joran was also dead - be it at my hands or the someone else's

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This was not really a mystery - the problem was Aruba doesn't have great infrastructure for criminal investigations and I recall the boy's father had some influence so pretty sure corruption was involved. Body was never found because I don't think until the US was involved - too late - it was really searched for.

All the dots lined up to that Dutch rich kid, and then he ended up doing it again - got caught on video going into a young woman's hotel room, she died in there, got caught coming out. He is in prison for life - and not a great prison from what I understand. Also his dad had died so his influence couldn't help him at that point.

Joran has a wife or girlfriend. He has a young child. The jail allows sex.

He also got critically injured in a knife fight while there. But please plan your second honeymoon in a jail in Peru, for the sex and all.

What? That's dumb.
Jordan fathered a child in jail. That does not happen normally in the USA.

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Anonymous wrote:I think she got drink, raped, killed and dumped on the ocean. This is a big part of why I hate alcohol, especially for young people. You just don't make sound decisions nor have the ability to care for yourself when impaired. Dumb girl got drunk.

So she deserved to die because she had some fun on a tropical island?

there are an awful lot of ways to have fun without getting shit faced. Pretty sad that you don't know that. Alcohol causes billions of dollars in injuries, lost wages, destroyed families and lives, property damage, abuse and so much more. But hey, it's all good. They're just having some fun. Tell that to the people who are dead or maimed.

You sound like a blast!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think she got drink, raped, killed and dumped on the ocean. This is a big part of why I hate alcohol, especially for young people. You just don't make sound decisions nor have the ability to care for yourself when impaired. Dumb girl got drunk.

So she deserved to die because she had some fun on a tropical island?

PP didn't say Natalie deserved to die. Nobody is blaming the victim for her awful demise. However, someone didn't care if she deserved it or not. He took advantage of her fun-on-a-tropical-island condition. He didn't get the message about how rude and mean it is to do that. Maybe he got the message and just ignored it.

So if you decide to have fun by getting drunk, please remember the gamble you are taking. Not all people are nice and mannerly; some may not play fair.

This is the dumbest shit I have ever read. He also took advantage of the fact that she was a woman and smaller and weaker than he is and probably a nice people-pleaser like women tend to be. So basically you deserve to get murdered if you're a woman, weak, and you bought into society's conditioning of women to be friendly. You people are idiots.

[Anonymous]

Women are victims of abuse, rape, murder, etc. at the hands of men in astounding numbers every day across the world. You don't have to be drunk to be a victim. Men will do these things regardless. Look at yourselves.

[Anonymous]

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Women are victims of abuse, rape, murder, etc. at the hands of men in astounding numbers every day across the world. You don't have to be drunk to be a victim. Men will do these things regardless. Look at yourselves.

Yes, thank you. Imagine if we put as much effort into teaching boys not to rape and abuse girls as we do teaching girls how not to get raped and abused.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think she got drink, raped, killed and dumped on the ocean. This is a big part of why I hate alcohol, especially for young people. You just don't make sound decisions nor have the ability to care for yourself when impaired. Dumb girl got drunk.

So she deserved to die because she had some fun on a tropical island?

there are an awful lot of ways to have fun without getting shit faced. Pretty sad that you don't know that. Alcohol causes billions of dollars in injuries, lost wages, destroyed families and lives, property damage, abuse and so much more. But hey, it's all good. They're just having some fun. Tell that to the people who are dead or maimed.

PP you are tone deaf. Please stop posting.

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Wow just full on psychopath