Brutal Anti-Trump Ad

[Anonymous]

Listening to that NPR segment, it was clear to me that both Democrats and Republicans in Congress respect Hillary and would be happy to work with her.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think this is a horrible ad that does the opposite of what it is trying to do.

Trump's whole appeal is that the losers in the establishment GOP don't like him. Why highlight that those losers don't like him?

One more time: you're not the audience for the ad. Trump supporters are not the audience for the ad. This and the other new web ad, the one featuring Trump in his own words, are aimed at moderate Republicans and independents, particularly women, who have qualms about voting for Trump due to his white nationalism, his misogyny, and his generally unstable temperament.

We get it ... the audience is for neo cons, true cons, the establishment of the right ... Hillary is the establishment on the left.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think this is a horrible ad that does the opposite of what it is trying to do.

Trump's whole appeal is that the losers in the establishment GOP don't like him. Why highlight that those losers don't like him?

One more time: you're not the audience for the ad. Trump supporters are not the audience for the ad. This and the other new web ad, the one featuring Trump in his own words, are aimed at moderate Republicans and independents, particularly women, who have qualms about voting for Trump due to his white nationalism, his misogyny, and his generally unstable temperament.

We get it ... the audience is for neo cons, true cons, the establishment of the right ... Hillary is the establishment on the left.

No. The audience is suburban Republican women. I'm not sure why that's so hard for you to understand.

[Anonymous]

Sorry, also independents. Not just suburban Republican women.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think this is a horrible ad that does the opposite of what it is trying to do.

Trump's whole appeal is that the losers in the establishment GOP don't like him. Why highlight that those losers don't like him?

His appeal to those who voted for him in the primary. One more time, about half the GOP did not vote for him in the primaries.

[Anonymous]

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jsteele wrote:That is a fantastic ad.

Its a curious ad. I wonder who the target market is...Dems will like it, but they are not voting for Trump and it will make the Republicans base more supportive of Trump. Sound bites of attacks on Trump from people the republicans base has resoundingly rejected and think of as the problem will actually strengthen Trump. So what is the purpose of the ad...to make democrats feel better? its really a waste of resources. The time and money could have been spent better else where.

1. To remind Republicans who are fence sitting about rallying around Trump (that is about half of all GOP primary voters - True Cons, NeoCons, moderates, etc) about what is wrong with Trump, as voiced by their own 2. To let any Repubs and Repub leaning independents who have not been paying attention know how bad Trump is, as voiced by their own 3. To pressure the GOP leaders to not endorse Trump, or else look like fools. 4. To put Trump back on the defensive - not let him bask in "rallying around"

It is a democratic feel good ad. Most of the people in the video will endorse Trump and quickly put the primary behind them. This does nothing to build the image of Hillary. Sorry another bad play by Hillary.

It worked for me simply because I will be voting for Clinton ONLY on the basis if her not being Trump. There is no other reason.

Ditto. I hated Bill Clinton and if possible, I might hate Hillary more. I am an independent who used to be a diehard Republican. And about the only thing that could have made me vote for Hillary in this election was Trump being the other option. I would have even been better with Cruz as the nominee although I disagree with his social conservatism (I am fiscally conservative, socially liberal). But at least he was competent!! I think my 8 year son has more maturity than Trump. I can't believe anyone would even consider putting him in charge of this country. It has nothing to do with being liberal or being conservative (I think most people would agree that Trump is not a true conservative). It has to do with the fact that he has no idea what he is doing! All he knows how to do is speak off the cuff and get people excited because he doesn't care about insulting anyone and everyone. He has shown no interest in learning about economic policy, foreign policy, etc. Truly scary.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:That is a fantastic ad.

Its a curious ad. I wonder who the target market is...Dems will like it, but they are not voting for Trump and it will make the Republicans base more supportive of Trump. Sound bites of attacks on Trump from people the republicans base has resoundingly rejected and think of as the problem will actually strengthen Trump. So what is the purpose of the ad...to make democrats feel better? its really a waste of resources. The time and money could have been spent better else where.

1. To remind Republicans who are fence sitting about rallying around Trump (that is about half of all GOP primary voters - True Cons, NeoCons, moderates, etc) about what is wrong with Trump, as voiced by their own 2. To let any Repubs and Repub leaning independents who have not been paying attention know how bad Trump is, as voiced by their own 3. To pressure the GOP leaders to not endorse Trump, or else look like fools. 4. To put Trump back on the defensive - not let him bask in "rallying around"

It is a democratic feel good ad. Most of the people in the video will endorse Trump and quickly put the primary behind them. This does nothing to build the image of Hillary. Sorry another bad play by Hillary.

It worked for me simply because I will be voting for Clinton ONLY on the basis if her not being Trump. There is no other reason.

Ditto. I hated Bill Clinton and if possible, I might hate Hillary more. I am an independent who used to be a diehard Republican. And about the only thing that could have made me vote for Hillary in this election was Trump being the other option. I would have even been better with Cruz as the nominee although I disagree with his social conservatism (I am fiscally conservative, socially liberal). But at least he was competent!! I think my 8 year son has more maturity than Trump. I can't believe anyone would even consider putting him in charge of this country. It has nothing to do with being liberal or being conservative (I think most people would agree that Trump is not a true conservative). It has to do with the fact that he has no idea what he is doing! All he knows how to do is speak off the cuff and get people excited because he doesn't care about insulting anyone and everyone. He has shown no interest in learning about economic policy, foreign policy, etc. Truly scary.

I am as liberal as they come and I feel the same about voting for Clinton. It's almost like Hillary Clinton and Trump are bringing all of the sane/normal people together and making us realize our differences are not that huge after all. I mean, they are... but they are not as big as our dislike for the two candidates. A Republican told me the other day that Trump is far more liberal than Hillary and that is why he has to vote for her. Things are just getting too weird for me lately.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:That is a fantastic ad.

Its a curious ad. I wonder who the target market is...Dems will like it, but they are not voting for Trump and it will make the Republicans base more supportive of Trump. Sound bites of attacks on Trump from people the republicans base has resoundingly rejected and think of as the problem will actually strengthen Trump. So what is the purpose of the ad...to make democrats feel better? its really a waste of resources. The time and money could have been spent better else where.

1. To remind Republicans who are fence sitting about rallying around Trump (that is about half of all GOP primary voters - True Cons, NeoCons, moderates, etc) about what is wrong with Trump, as voiced by their own 2. To let any Repubs and Repub leaning independents who have not been paying attention know how bad Trump is, as voiced by their own 3. To pressure the GOP leaders to not endorse Trump, or else look like fools. 4. To put Trump back on the defensive - not let him bask in "rallying around"

It is a democratic feel good ad. Most of the people in the video will endorse Trump and quickly put the primary behind them. This does nothing to build the image of Hillary. Sorry another bad play by Hillary.

It worked for me simply because I will be voting for Clinton ONLY on the basis if her not being Trump. There is no other reason.

Ditto. I hated Bill Clinton and if possible, I might hate Hillary more. I am an independent who used to be a diehard Republican. And about the only thing that could have made me vote for Hillary in this election was Trump being the other option. I would have even been better with Cruz as the nominee although I disagree with his social conservatism (I am fiscally conservative, socially liberal). But at least he was competent!! I think my 8 year son has more maturity than Trump. I can't believe anyone would even consider putting him in charge of this country. It has nothing to do with being liberal or being conservative (I think most people would agree that Trump is not a true conservative). It has to do with the fact that he has no idea what he is doing! All he knows how to do is speak off the cuff and get people excited because he doesn't care about insulting anyone and everyone. He has shown no interest in learning about economic policy, foreign policy, etc. Truly scary.

I am as liberal as they come and I feel the same about voting for Clinton. It's almost like Hillary Clinton and Trump are bringing all of the sane/normal people together and making us realize our differences are not that huge after all. I mean, they are... but they are not as big as our dislike for the two candidates. A Republican told me the other day that Trump is far more liberal than Hillary and that is why he has to vote for her. Things are just getting too weird for me lately.

I am very sane and normal and voting for Hillary.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think this is a horrible ad that does the opposite of what it is trying to do.

Trump's whole appeal is that the losers in the establishment GOP don't like him. Why highlight that those losers don't like him?

One more time: you're not the audience for the ad. Trump supporters are not the audience for the ad. This and the other new web ad, the one featuring Trump in his own words, are aimed at moderate Republicans and independents, particularly women, who have qualms about voting for Trump due to his white nationalism, his misogyny, and his generally unstable temperament.

We get it ... the audience is for neo cons, true cons, the establishment of the right ... Hillary is the establishment on the left.

No. The audience is suburban Republican women. I'm not sure why that's so hard for you to understand.

You know the never trump folks have tried this and failed miserably. Suburban Republican women didn't turn out for Jeb, or Lindsey, or Marco, or Cruz after 60,000 negative ads against Trump played over and over again. But now it will work because it is paid for by Hillary.

I completely understand why Bush supports Hillary. They are the same in foreign policy -- 4 trillion in the middle east already with no end in sight.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think this is a horrible ad that does the opposite of what it is trying to do.

Trump's whole appeal is that the losers in the establishment GOP don't like him. Why highlight that those losers don't like him?

One more time: you're not the audience for the ad. Trump supporters are not the audience for the ad. This and the other new web ad, the one featuring Trump in his own words, are aimed at moderate Republicans and independents, particularly women, who have qualms about voting for Trump due to his white nationalism, his misogyny, and his generally unstable temperament.

We get it ... the audience is for neo cons, true cons, the establishment of the right ... Hillary is the establishment on the left.

No. The audience is suburban Republican women. I'm not sure why that's so hard for you to understand.

You know the never trump folks have tried this and failed miserably. Suburban Republican women didn't turn out for Jeb, or Lindsey, or Marco, or Cruz after 60,000 negative ads against Trump played over and over again. But now it will work because it is paid for by Hillary.

I completely understand why Bush supports Hillary. They are the same in foreign policy -- 4 trillion in the middle east already with no end in sight.

Which Bush supports Hillary?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think this is a horrible ad that does the opposite of what it is trying to do.

Trump's whole appeal is that the losers in the establishment GOP don't like him. Why highlight that those losers don't like him?

One more time: you're not the audience for the ad. Trump supporters are not the audience for the ad. This and the other new web ad, the one featuring Trump in his own words, are aimed at moderate Republicans and independents, particularly women, who have qualms about voting for Trump due to his white nationalism, his misogyny, and his generally unstable temperament.

We get it ... the audience is for neo cons, true cons, the establishment of the right ... Hillary is the establishment on the left.

No. The audience is suburban Republican women. I'm not sure why that's so hard for you to understand.

You know the never trump folks have tried this and failed miserably. Suburban Republican women didn't turn out for Jeb, or Lindsey, or Marco, or Cruz after 60,000 negative ads against Trump played over and over again. But now it will work because it is paid for by Hillary.

I completely understand why Bush supports Hillary. They are the same in foreign policy -- 4 trillion in the middle east already with no end in sight.

You're confusing the Republican primary electorate with the general voting population. That's a mistake. In a general election, the moderate Republican women who supported Rubio, Bush and Kasich will be valuable crossover votes for Hillary.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think this is a horrible ad that does the opposite of what it is trying to do.

Trump's whole appeal is that the losers in the establishment GOP don't like him. Why highlight that those losers don't like him?

One more time: you're not the audience for the ad. Trump supporters are not the audience for the ad. This and the other new web ad, the one featuring Trump in his own words, are aimed at moderate Republicans and independents, particularly women, who have qualms about voting for Trump due to his white nationalism, his misogyny, and his generally unstable temperament.

We get it ... the audience is for neo cons, true cons, the establishment of the right ... Hillary is the establishment on the left.

No. The audience is suburban Republican women. I'm not sure why that's so hard for you to understand.

You know the never trump folks have tried this and failed miserably. Suburban Republican women didn't turn out for Jeb, or Lindsey, or Marco, or Cruz after 60,000 negative ads against Trump played over and over again. But now it will work because it is paid for by Hillary.

I completely understand why Bush supports Hillary. They are the same in foreign policy -- 4 trillion in the middle east already with no end in sight.

You're confusing the Republican primary electorate with the general voting population. That's a mistake. In a general election, the moderate Republican women who supported Rubio, Bush and Kasich will be valuable crossover votes for Hillary.

Should Trump make an ad on Bernie saying Hillary is not qualified to be President, and dig up some 2008 material from Obama on her Iraq war and other blunders?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think this is a horrible ad that does the opposite of what it is trying to do.

Trump's whole appeal is that the losers in the establishment GOP don't like him. Why highlight that those losers don't like him?

One more time: you're not the audience for the ad. Trump supporters are not the audience for the ad. This and the other new web ad, the one featuring Trump in his own words, are aimed at moderate Republicans and independents, particularly women, who have qualms about voting for Trump due to his white nationalism, his misogyny, and his generally unstable temperament.

We get it ... the audience is for neo cons, true cons, the establishment of the right ... Hillary is the establishment on the left.

No. The audience is suburban Republican women. I'm not sure why that's so hard for you to understand.

You know the never trump folks have tried this and failed miserably. Suburban Republican women didn't turn out for Jeb, or Lindsey, or Marco, or Cruz after 60,000 negative ads against Trump played over and over again. But now it will work because it is paid for by Hillary.

I completely understand why Bush supports Hillary. They are the same in foreign policy -- 4 trillion in the middle east already with no end in sight.

You're confusing the Republican primary electorate with the general voting population. That's a mistake. In a general election, the moderate Republican women who supported Rubio, Bush and Kasich will be valuable crossover votes for Hillary.

Should Trump make an ad on Bernie saying Hillary is not qualified to be President, and dig up some 2008 material from Obama on her Iraq war and other blunders?

Of course he will. He has said so.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Ditto. I hated Bill Clinton and if possible, I might hate Hillary more. I am an independent who used to be a diehard Republican. And about the only thing that could have made me vote for Hillary in this election was Trump being the other option. I would have even been better with Cruz as the nominee although I disagree with his social conservatism (I am fiscally conservative, socially liberal). But at least he was competent!! I think my 8 year son has more maturity than Trump. I can't believe anyone would even consider putting him in charge of this country. It has nothing to do with being liberal or being conservative (I think most people would agree that Trump is not a true conservative). It has to do with the fact that he has no idea what he is doing! All he knows how to do is speak off the cuff and get people excited because he doesn't care about insulting anyone and everyone. He has shown no interest in learning about economic policy, foreign policy, etc. Truly scary.

Kind of OT, but can you explain this to me? Bill Clinton was actually President when things liek NAFTA were signed into law, he's actually the person who signed the law. He's also a well-known womanizer who, at best, tried to "mischaracterize" to a Grand Jury a relationship he had with an intern in the Oval Office...while he was a sitting President. Hillary may have voted for things as Senator that you don't like, but her vote alone is not what got those bills passed nor is she the ex-President who chose to send troops into battle. She also might have been the country's Chief Diplomat when foreign policy recommendations were made, but there was a different person who was actually in charge of making final decisions.

The idea of Hillary the All-Powerful who has somehow been responsible for all of the missteps of the last 3 Presidents if frankly amazing to me. I know some people hate both the Clintons, but I really don't understand hating Hillary more than Bill.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Ditto. I hated Bill Clinton and if possible, I might hate Hillary more. I am an independent who used to be a diehard Republican. And about the only thing that could have made me vote for Hillary in this election was Trump being the other option. I would have even been better with Cruz as the nominee although I disagree with his social conservatism (I am fiscally conservative, socially liberal). But at least he was competent!! I think my 8 year son has more maturity than Trump. I can't believe anyone would even consider putting him in charge of this country. It has nothing to do with being liberal or being conservative (I think most people would agree that Trump is not a true conservative). It has to do with the fact that he has no idea what he is doing! All he knows how to do is speak off the cuff and get people excited because he doesn't care about insulting anyone and everyone. He has shown no interest in learning about economic policy, foreign policy, etc. Truly scary.

Kind of OT, but can you explain this to me? Bill Clinton was actually President when things liek NAFTA were signed into law, he's actually the person who signed the law. He's also a well-known womanizer who, at best, tried to "mischaracterize" to a Grand Jury a relationship he had with an intern in the Oval Office...while he was a sitting President. Hillary may have voted for things as Senator that you don't like, but her vote alone is not what got those bills passed nor is she the ex-President who chose to send troops into battle. She also might have been the country's Chief Diplomat when foreign policy recommendations were made, but there was a different person who was actually in charge of making final decisions.

The idea of Hillary the All-Powerful who has somehow been responsible for all of the missteps of the last 3 Presidents if frankly amazing to me. I know some people hate both the Clintons, but I really don't understand hating Hillary more than Bill.

You are right. I hate her exactly as much as I hate Bill and no more. They are equally horrible. Your argument for her is extremely thin, btw. Just because she did not MAKE all of the bad things happen herself, does not mean she is not partly to blame for a lot of bad things.