Are there any EOTP elementary schools (non-charter) that are great past K?

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Silver spring is one of my favorite things about Shepherd park--and it is walkable. It is not a very nice walk... It would be nicer if there was some attempt to make the route more pedestrian-friendly, but it's not far at all.

It is a pretty uniquely located suburban/urban neighborhood.

Pro tip: you can also catch the 28 bus on 13th next to that big apt building on the MD side and ride in to ss for free. (Walking is faster... But it's not a bad way to get home too.)

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I live in Brightwood and frequent SS often. Gotta love the free garage parking on the weekends!

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Anonymous wrote:Shepherd Park is nice but of course it's not as nice as Capitol Hill. There's nothing there.

I live in SP and I've only been to Capitol Hill a few times (relatively new to area). Nice area, and great walkability to stuff--something I admittedly miss in SP. However, the Hill is nowhere near where we worked, so we didn't look here at all when looking to buy. We also wanted access to green space--we do trail running, walk our dog, etc. in Rock Creek Park, and where we live in SP allows easy access for outdoorsy types.

I recall going to the Eastern Market area with a friend who lived there at the time, and being struck by how lily-white it was. The only AAs I saw appeared to be either homeless or street vendors. Also, the same friend's child was the only AA in her PK3 class at a Hill DCPS school a few years ago. As a black family, I didn't want our kid to be the "only"--so for this and other reasons, SP was a better fit for us. Also, my friend has since pulled her kids out of the Hill school for an HRCS which happens to be much more diverse.

In general, I think the two neighborhoods and their respective schools are apples and oranges--but again, nice to have options outside of JKLMMs.

I don't live in either. Personally, I agree. I also think Eastern Market is extremely overpriced (but hey they can charge what they want and get away with it).

Anyway, I don't understand how this became turf war because ONE person said they would rank Shepherd higher than Brent due to IB and Deal/Wilson.

No- I pointed out that there is a lot more to deciding on a school than just test scores. For example- the neighborhood. I wanted somewhere walkable, close to my job and the Smithsonian. I don't like Maryland and i wouldn't want to live in a silver spring suburb. So we chose Capitol Hill. I'm glad that shepherd is a great (better than good in my opinion) school, but it's not for us simply because I just don't care for SP (which is nice enough). And yes I wish that CH had been cheaper when we bought, but I loved being a renter here too. To each his own!

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Anonymous wrote:Shepherd Park is nice but of course it's not as nice as Capitol Hill. There's nothing there.

I live in SP and I've only been to Capitol Hill a few times (relatively new to area). Nice area, and great walkability to stuff--something I admittedly miss in SP. However, the Hill is nowhere near where we worked, so we didn't look here at all when looking to buy. We also wanted access to green space--we do trail running, walk our dog, etc. in Rock Creek Park, and where we live in SP allows easy access for outdoorsy types.

I recall going to the Eastern Market area with a friend who lived there at the time, and being struck by how lily-white it was. The only AAs I saw appeared to be either homeless or street vendors. Also, the same friend's child was the only AA in her PK3 class at a Hill DCPS school a few years ago. As a black family, I didn't want our kid to be the "only"--so for this and other reasons, SP was a better fit for us. Also, my friend has since pulled her kids out of the Hill school for an HRCS which happens to be much more diverse.

In general, I think the two neighborhoods and their respective schools are apples and oranges--but again, nice to have options outside of JKLMMs.

I don't live in either. Personally, I agree. I also think Eastern Market is extremely overpriced (but hey they can charge what they want and get away with it).

Anyway, I don't understand how this became turf war because ONE person said they would rank Shepherd higher than Brent due to IB and Deal/Wilson.

No- I pointed out that there is a lot more to deciding on a school than just test scores. For example- the neighborhood. I wanted somewhere walkable, close to my job and the Smithsonian. I don't like Maryland and i wouldn't want to live in a silver spring suburb. So we chose Capitol Hill. I'm glad that shepherd is a great (better than good in my opinion) school, but it's not for us simply because I just don't care for SP (which is nice enough). And yes I wish that CH had been cheaper when we bought, but I loved being a renter here too. To each his own!

The topic is on schools. Can we keep it that way? I agree with some PPs. Actually, I would only put Ross, Shepherd, and Brent in that answer. I also would put Shepherd first (even above Ross) due to IB and Deal/Wilson.

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Anonymous wrote:Shepherd Park is nice but of course it's not as nice as Capitol Hill. There's nothing there.

I live in SP and I've only been to Capitol Hill a few times (relatively new to area). Nice area, and great walkability to stuff--something I admittedly miss in SP. However, the Hill is nowhere near where we worked, so we didn't look here at all when looking to buy. We also wanted access to green space--we do trail running, walk our dog, etc. in Rock Creek Park, and where we live in SP allows easy access for outdoorsy types.

I recall going to the Eastern Market area with a friend who lived there at the time, and being struck by how lily-white it was. The only AAs I saw appeared to be either homeless or street vendors. Also, the same friend's child was the only AA in her PK3 class at a Hill DCPS school a few years ago. As a black family, I didn't want our kid to be the "only"--so for this and other reasons, SP was a better fit for us. Also, my friend has since pulled her kids out of the Hill school for an HRCS which happens to be much more diverse.

In general, I think the two neighborhoods and their respective schools are apples and oranges--but again, nice to have options outside of JKLMMs.

I don't live in either. Personally, I agree. I also think Eastern Market is extremely overpriced (but hey they can charge what they want and get away with it).

Anyway, I don't understand how this became turf war because ONE person said they would rank Shepherd higher than Brent due to IB and Deal/Wilson.

No- I pointed out that there is a lot more to deciding on a school than just test scores. For example- the neighborhood. I wanted somewhere walkable, close to my job and the Smithsonian. I don't like Maryland and i wouldn't want to live in a silver spring suburb. So we chose Capitol Hill. I'm glad that shepherd is a great (better than good in my opinion) school, but it's not for us simply because I just don't care for SP (which is nice enough). And yes I wish that CH had been cheaper when we bought, but I loved being a renter here too. To each his own!

The topic is on schools. Can we keep it that way? I agree with some PPs. Actually, I would only put Ross, Shepherd, and Brent in that answer. I also would put Shepherd first (even above Ross) due to IB and Deal/Wilson.

You'd be a fool not to include at least Maury and Peabody.

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Anonymous wrote:Shepherd Park is nice but of course it's not as nice as Capitol Hill. There's nothing there.

I live in SP and I've only been to Capitol Hill a few times (relatively new to area). Nice area, and great walkability to stuff--something I admittedly miss in SP. However, the Hill is nowhere near where we worked, so we didn't look here at all when looking to buy. We also wanted access to green space--we do trail running, walk our dog, etc. in Rock Creek Park, and where we live in SP allows easy access for outdoorsy types.

I recall going to the Eastern Market area with a friend who lived there at the time, and being struck by how lily-white it was. The only AAs I saw appeared to be either homeless or street vendors. Also, the same friend's child was the only AA in her PK3 class at a Hill DCPS school a few years ago. As a black family, I didn't want our kid to be the "only"--so for this and other reasons, SP was a better fit for us. Also, my friend has since pulled her kids out of the Hill school for an HRCS which happens to be much more diverse.

In general, I think the two neighborhoods and their respective schools are apples and oranges--but again, nice to have options outside of JKLMMs.

I don't live in either. Personally, I agree. I also think Eastern Market is extremely overpriced (but hey they can charge what they want and get away with it).

Anyway, I don't understand how this became turf war because ONE person said they would rank Shepherd higher than Brent due to IB and Deal/Wilson.

No- I pointed out that there is a lot more to deciding on a school than just test scores. For example- the neighborhood. I wanted somewhere walkable, close to my job and the Smithsonian. I don't like Maryland and i wouldn't want to live in a silver spring suburb. So we chose Capitol Hill. I'm glad that shepherd is a great (better than good in my opinion) school, but it's not for us simply because I just don't care for SP (which is nice enough). And yes I wish that CH had been cheaper when we bought, but I loved being a renter here too. To each his own!

The topic is on schools. Can we keep it that way? I agree with some PPs. Actually, I would only put Ross, Shepherd, and Brent in that answer. I also would put Shepherd first (even above Ross) due to IB and Deal/Wilson.

You'd be a fool not to include at least Maury and Peabody.

Peabody is PK3-K. OP clearly asked "PAST K".

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Anonymous wrote:Shepherd Park is nice but of course it's not as nice as Capitol Hill. There's nothing there.

I live in SP and I've only been to Capitol Hill a few times (relatively new to area). Nice area, and great walkability to stuff--something I admittedly miss in SP. However, the Hill is nowhere near where we worked, so we didn't look here at all when looking to buy. We also wanted access to green space--we do trail running, walk our dog, etc. in Rock Creek Park, and where we live in SP allows easy access for outdoorsy types.

I recall going to the Eastern Market area with a friend who lived there at the time, and being struck by how lily-white it was. The only AAs I saw appeared to be either homeless or street vendors. Also, the same friend's child was the only AA in her PK3 class at a Hill DCPS school a few years ago. As a black family, I didn't want our kid to be the "only"--so for this and other reasons, SP was a better fit for us. Also, my friend has since pulled her kids out of the Hill school for an HRCS which happens to be much more diverse.

In general, I think the two neighborhoods and their respective schools are apples and oranges--but again, nice to have options outside of JKLMMs.

I don't live in either. Personally, I agree. I also think Eastern Market is extremely overpriced (but hey they can charge what they want and get away with it).

Anyway, I don't understand how this became turf war because ONE person said they would rank Shepherd higher than Brent due to IB and Deal/Wilson.

No- I pointed out that there is a lot more to deciding on a school than just test scores. For example- the neighborhood. I wanted somewhere walkable, close to my job and the Smithsonian. I don't like Maryland and i wouldn't want to live in a silver spring suburb. So we chose Capitol Hill. I'm glad that shepherd is a great (better than good in my opinion) school, but it's not for us simply because I just don't care for SP (which is nice enough). And yes I wish that CH had been cheaper when we bought, but I loved being a renter here too. To each his own!

The topic is on schools. Can we keep it that way? I agree with some PPs. Actually, I would only put Ross, Shepherd, and Brent in that answer. I also would put Shepherd first (even above Ross) due to IB and Deal/Wilson.

You'd be a fool not to include at least Maury and Peabody.

Peabody is PK3-K. OP clearly asked "PAST K".

Oh sorry, you must be new here. Peabody is A part of the cluster school, which is Peabody, Watkins, and Stuart-Hobson. Strange how you knew Peabody only went until K, but couldn't figure out what the poster meant by Peabody. Glad I could help you out!

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Anonymous wrote:I might as well live in Maryland was going to the suburbs of DC. But to each his own. I prefer CH.

I might as well live in the ghettos of seat pleasant, Anacostia or Suitland. See how that works? Also, you still have Eastern so there's that.

I knew this thread would turn ugly. Hood vs hood at its best. I'm not sure what makes Cap Hill so central and walkable. Eastern market, barracks row. Shepherd park has Takoma Market, access to Silver Spring restaurants, RCP trails. They seem pretty much the same. Cap Hill is more urban, Shepherd park more suburban feel. Cap hill access to downtown and H street, 295 and 395. Shepherd Park WOTP, Columbia Heights, Takoma, 95 and 495. Six in one hand half a dozen in the other. Why do people get so defensive about their neighborhoods? Why the need to trash another?

Let's remember this thread was about viable school EOTP.

Seriously? Look at a map. To start with Capitol Hill is walkable to the Capitol, plus it's about five miles closer to downtown DC.

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Anonymous wrote:Shepherd Park is nice but of course it's not as nice as Capitol Hill. There's nothing there.

I live in SP and I've only been to Capitol Hill a few times (relatively new to area). Nice area, and great walkability to stuff--something I admittedly miss in SP. However, the Hill is nowhere near where we worked, so we didn't look here at all when looking to buy. We also wanted access to green space--we do trail running, walk our dog, etc. in Rock Creek Park, and where we live in SP allows easy access for outdoorsy types.

I recall going to the Eastern Market area with a friend who lived there at the time, and being struck by how lily-white it was. The only AAs I saw appeared to be either homeless or street vendors. Also, the same friend's child was the only AA in her PK3 class at a Hill DCPS school a few years ago. As a black family, I didn't want our kid to be the "only"--so for this and other reasons, SP was a better fit for us. Also, my friend has since pulled her kids out of the Hill school for an HRCS which happens to be much more diverse.

In general, I think the two neighborhoods and their respective schools are apples and oranges--but again, nice to have options outside of JKLMMs.

I don't live in either. Personally, I agree. I also think Eastern Market is extremely overpriced (but hey they can charge what they want and get away with it).

Anyway, I don't understand how this became turf war because ONE person said they would rank Shepherd higher than Brent due to IB and Deal/Wilson.

No- I pointed out that there is a lot more to deciding on a school than just test scores. For example- the neighborhood. I wanted somewhere walkable, close to my job and the Smithsonian. I don't like Maryland and i wouldn't want to live in a silver spring suburb. So we chose Capitol Hill. I'm glad that shepherd is a great (better than good in my opinion) school, but it's not for us simply because I just don't care for SP (which is nice enough). And yes I wish that CH had been cheaper when we bought, but I loved being a renter here too. To each his own!

The topic is on schools. Can we keep it that way? I agree with some PPs. Actually, I would only put Ross, Shepherd, and Brent in that answer. I also would put Shepherd first (even above Ross) due to IB and Deal/Wilson.

You'd be a fool not to include at least Maury and Peabody.

Peabody is PK3-K. OP clearly asked "PAST K".

Oh sorry, you must be new here. Peabody is A part of the cluster school, which is Peabody, Watkins, and Stuart-Hobson. Strange how you knew Peabody only went until K, but couldn't figure out what the poster meant by Peabody. Glad I could help you out!

Nope I'm certainly not new here. I know people like Peabody alright but no so much Watkins. So I revert to my original statement. Only Brent, Ross, Shepherd. Watkins is equivalent to Bancroft, Cleveland, Powell (nice enough).

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Shepherd Park is nice but of course it's not as nice as Capitol Hill. There's nothing there.

I live in SP and I've only been to Capitol Hill a few times (relatively new to area). Nice area, and great walkability to stuff--something I admittedly miss in SP. However, the Hill is nowhere near where we worked, so we didn't look here at all when looking to buy. We also wanted access to green space--we do trail running, walk our dog, etc. in Rock Creek Park, and where we live in SP allows easy access for outdoorsy types.

I recall going to the Eastern Market area with a friend who lived there at the time, and being struck by how lily-white it was. The only AAs I saw appeared to be either homeless or street vendors. Also, the same friend's child was the only AA in her PK3 class at a Hill DCPS school a few years ago. As a black family, I didn't want our kid to be the "only"--so for this and other reasons, SP was a better fit for us. Also, my friend has since pulled her kids out of the Hill school for an HRCS which happens to be much more diverse.

In general, I think the two neighborhoods and their respective schools are apples and oranges--but again, nice to have options outside of JKLMMs.

I don't live in either. Personally, I agree. I also think Eastern Market is extremely overpriced (but hey they can charge what they want and get away with it).

Anyway, I don't understand how this became turf war because ONE person said they would rank Shepherd higher than Brent due to IB and Deal/Wilson.

No- I pointed out that there is a lot more to deciding on a school than just test scores. For example- the neighborhood. I wanted somewhere walkable, close to my job and the Smithsonian. I don't like Maryland and i wouldn't want to live in a silver spring suburb. So we chose Capitol Hill. I'm glad that shepherd is a great (better than good in my opinion) school, but it's not for us simply because I just don't care for SP (which is nice enough). And yes I wish that CH had been cheaper when we bought, but I loved being a renter here too. To each his own!

The topic is on schools. Can we keep it that way? I agree with some PPs. Actually, I would only put Ross, Shepherd, and Brent in that answer. I also would put Shepherd first (even above Ross) due to IB and Deal/Wilson.

You'd be a fool not to include at least Maury and Peabody.

Peabody is PK3-K. OP clearly asked "PAST K".

Oh sorry, you must be new here. Peabody is A part of the cluster school, which is Peabody, Watkins, and Stuart-Hobson. Strange how you knew Peabody only went until K, but couldn't figure out what the poster meant by Peabody. Glad I could help you out!

Nope I'm certainly not new here. I know people like Peabody alright but no so much Watkins. So I revert to my original statement. Only Brent, Ross, Shepherd. Watkins is equivalent to Bancroft, Cleveland, Powell (nice enough).

NP here, I would agree with Brent, Ross and Shepherd, but it's funny how you compared Watkins to dual-language schools. Any non-language comparisons?

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Anonymous wrote:Shepherd Park is nice but of course it's not as nice as Capitol Hill. There's nothing there.

I live in SP and I've only been to Capitol Hill a few times (relatively new to area). Nice area, and great walkability to stuff--something I admittedly miss in SP. However, the Hill is nowhere near where we worked, so we didn't look here at all when looking to buy. We also wanted access to green space--we do trail running, walk our dog, etc. in Rock Creek Park, and where we live in SP allows easy access for outdoorsy types.

I recall going to the Eastern Market area with a friend who lived there at the time, and being struck by how lily-white it was. The only AAs I saw appeared to be either homeless or street vendors. Also, the same friend's child was the only AA in her PK3 class at a Hill DCPS school a few years ago. As a black family, I didn't want our kid to be the "only"--so for this and other reasons, SP was a better fit for us. Also, my friend has since pulled her kids out of the Hill school for an HRCS which happens to be much more diverse.

In general, I think the two neighborhoods and their respective schools are apples and oranges--but again, nice to have options outside of JKLMMs.

I don't live in either. Personally, I agree. I also think Eastern Market is extremely overpriced (but hey they can charge what they want and get away with it).

Anyway, I don't understand how this became turf war because ONE person said they would rank Shepherd higher than Brent due to IB and Deal/Wilson.

No- I pointed out that there is a lot more to deciding on a school than just test scores. For example- the neighborhood. I wanted somewhere walkable, close to my job and the Smithsonian. I don't like Maryland and i wouldn't want to live in a silver spring suburb. So we chose Capitol Hill. I'm glad that shepherd is a great (better than good in my opinion) school, but it's not for us simply because I just don't care for SP (which is nice enough). And yes I wish that CH had been cheaper when we bought, but I loved being a renter here too. To each his own!

The topic is on schools. Can we keep it that way? I agree with some PPs. Actually, I would only put Ross, Shepherd, and Brent in that answer. I also would put Shepherd first (even above Ross) due to IB and Deal/Wilson.

You'd be a fool not to include at least Maury and Peabody.

Peabody is PK3-K. OP clearly asked "PAST K".

Oh sorry, you must be new here. Peabody is A part of the cluster school, which is Peabody, Watkins, and Stuart-Hobson. Strange how you knew Peabody only went until K, but couldn't figure out what the poster meant by Peabody. Glad I could help you out!

Nope I'm certainly not new here. I know people like Peabody alright but no so much Watkins. So I revert to my original statement. Only Brent, Ross, Shepherd. Watkins is equivalent to Bancroft, Cleveland, Powell (nice enough).

NP here, I would agree with Brent, Ross and Shepherd, but it's funny how you compared Watkins to dual-language schools. Any non-language comparisons?

NP and I would agree. I think it is just coincidence that the 3 compared are Spanish as well as "rising". I would say non language equivalents would be Thomson, Barnard, and Logan.

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Anonymous wrote:Shepherd Park is nice but of course it's not as nice as Capitol Hill. There's nothing there.

It depends on which end of the neighborhood you live on. We're right near the SS line, and have a few restaurants and bars within a <10 min walk across the SS line (Moorenko's, Denizens, Urban Butcher, Jackies) as well as some less notable options on GA ave in DC (though big point to Teddy's Roti!)

If you're over towards the 16th St side/Alaska Ave (SW end of the hood), the only thing that's walkable is Rock Creek Park - and Walter Reed when that comes along in, oh...10 years.

I feel like one could make similar arguments for some of the schools on the Hill. If you're IB for Maury, you have pretty much nothing there either.

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Anonymous wrote:Shepherd Park is nice but of course it's not as nice as Capitol Hill. There's nothing there.

It depends on which end of the neighborhood you live on. We're right near the SS line, and have a few restaurants and bars within a <10 min walk across the SS line (Moorenko's, Denizens, Urban Butcher, Jackies) as well as some less notable options on GA ave in DC (though big point to Teddy's Roti!)

If you're over towards the 16th St side/Alaska Ave (SW end of the hood), the only thing that's walkable is Rock Creek Park - and Walter Reed when that comes along in, oh...10 years.

I feel like one could make similar arguments for some of the schools on the Hill. If you're IB for Maury, you have pretty much nothing there either.

Are you stupid? Maury zone is a 10-15 walk to eastern market and a 10-15 min walk to H street. You're in the middle of everything, without the hobo problems of Eastern Market or H st.

Also SS is a dump.

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I think most of the people posting here have no idea what they're talking about. Anyone coming here for any real information should look elsewhere.

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Anonymous wrote:I think ranking these schools is an utter waste of time since there are so many other factors at play. I would much rather live on Capitol Hill than Shepherd Park (even though Shepherd is so much cheaper than CH). All the schools listed are great, so it's really a matter of personal choice. I am not impressed with Deal or Wilson so that doesn't matter to me either).

That's funny as I would much rather live in Shepherd Park than CH. in fact, we have three friends that have recently moved there from CH. to each his own I guess. Also I would say "SO much cheaper", but generally speaking yes CH is more expensive.

I think most people in DC say "what? where?" when people talk about shepherds park. No offense. It's not exactly a nice or walkable neighborhood.

It's pretty clear you've never set foot in SP.