Are there any EOTP elementary schools (non-charter) that are great past K?

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I think ranking these schools is an utter waste of time since there are so many other factors at play. I would much rather live on Capitol Hill than Shepherd Park (even though Shepherd is so much cheaper than CH). All the schools listed are great, so it's really a matter of personal choice. I am not impressed with Deal or Wilson so that doesn't matter to me either).

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Anonymous wrote:I think ranking these schools is an utter waste of time since there are so many other factors at play. I would much rather live on Capitol Hill than Shepherd Park (even though Shepherd is so much cheaper than CH). All the schools listed are great, so it's really a matter of personal choice. I am not impressed with Deal or Wilson so that doesn't matter to me either).

That's funny as I would much rather live in Shepherd Park than CH. in fact, we have three friends that have recently moved there from CH. to each his own I guess. Also I would say "SO much cheaper", but generally speaking yes CH is more expensive.

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Anonymous wrote:So, it looks like you need to live on Hill if you're ETOP?

You can get lucky at a charter or go private. Even on the Hill, there is no future past elementary.

Which charters have solid middle school options?

Really only DCI. Maybe Cap City - but their star doesn't shine as brightly as it used to.

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Anonymous wrote:So, it looks like you need to live on Hill if you're ETOP?

You can get lucky at a charter or go private. Even on the Hill, there is no future past elementary.

Which charters have solid middle school options?

Basis and Latin.

No, those are middle schools. They're not automatically solid options for anyone without sibling preference.

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Anonymous wrote:NP here. Shepherd also has Deal and Wilson. What are Brent's IB MS and HS again?

Yet, Shepherd is relatively low IB. What's up with that? Other Deal/Wilson feeders seem to attract families from their catchment area.

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Anonymous wrote:So, it looks like you need to live on Hill if you're ETOP?

You can get lucky at a charter or go private. Even on the Hill, there is no future past elementary.

Which charters have solid middle school options?

Really only DCI. Maybe Cap City - but their star doesn't shine as brightly as it used to.

I would say Inspired Teaching and Two Rivers. Not sure why PP thinks only DCI.

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Anonymous wrote:West is creeping up - the OP asked for great - not getting there.

If OP is asking for only great EOTP past K, I'd say only

Ross
Shepherd
Brent
Maury
LT

In that order. I give Shepherd edge over Brent because they have IB program and perform the same with triple the low income students.

There's no reason to compare them but since you did, Brent's scores are actually higher

You're right. For 2014 CAS Brent had 2 more overall points than Shepherd. Shepherd had three times the FARM students. Ross also outperforms Brent with more Econ diversity. I don't know why you have to be so defensive about one person's personal opinion. Didn't put down Brent. I would send my kid there in a heart beat. I'm not at either school but have done a lot of research for lottery purposes and I stand by my statement. Shepherd is an IB school, has middle/high school option (less attrition), and performs better in m my opinion taking into account Econ disadvantaged.

I was answering the question in my opinion. I'm glad to hear that it's growing more popular with IB families. To another PP, as someone that lives lower NW it's a lot easier to get to Shepherd for us than Brent.

No defensiveness here, my kid doesn't attend either school - but why are you referring to 2014 scores when 2015 scores have been released?

Not interested in the usual DCUM pissing match but here are the facts: 57 percent of Brent 3-5 graders were Level 4-5 in math vs. 39 percent at Shepherd. Similar results for ELA, with 68 percent of Brent testing at Level 4-5 vs. 47 percent at Shepherd. Take it for what it's worth.

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Anonymous wrote:West is creeping up - the OP asked for great - not getting there.

If OP is asking for only great EOTP past K, I'd say only

Ross
Shepherd
Brent
Maury
LT

In that order. I give Shepherd edge over Brent because they have IB program and perform the same with triple the low income students.

There's no reason to compare them but since you did, Brent's scores are actually higher

You're right. For 2014 CAS Brent had 2 more overall points than Shepherd. Shepherd had three times the FARM students. Ross also outperforms Brent with more Econ diversity. I don't know why you have to be so defensive about one person's personal opinion. Didn't put down Brent. I would send my kid there in a heart beat. I'm not at either school but have done a lot of research for lottery purposes and I stand by my statement. Shepherd is an IB school, has middle/high school option (less attrition), and performs better in m my opinion taking into account Econ disadvantaged.

I was answering the question in my opinion. I'm glad to hear that it's growing more popular with IB families. To another PP, as someone that lives lower NW it's a lot easier to get to Shepherd for us than Brent.

No defensiveness here, my kid doesn't attend either school - but why are you referring to 2014 scores when 2015 scores have been released?

Not interested in the usual DCUM pissing match but here are the facts: 57 percent of Brent 3-5 graders were Level 4-5 in math vs. 39 percent at Shepherd. Similar results for ELA, with 68 percent of Brent testing at Level 4-5 vs. 47 percent at Shepherd. Take it for what it's worth.

Math: 12.1 percent at Brent are Level 5 vs. 5.9 percent at Brent.
ELA: 16.8 percent at Brent are Level 5 vs. 5.2 percent for Shepherd

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5.9 percent for Math at Shepherd.

We are of course taking about a relatively small testing cohort at each school. 107 at Brent and 132 at Shepherd.

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Anonymous wrote:West is creeping up - the OP asked for great - not getting there.

If OP is asking for only great EOTP past K, I'd say only

Ross
Shepherd
Brent
Maury
LT

In that order. I give Shepherd edge over Brent because they have IB program and perform the same with triple the low income students.

There's no reason to compare them but since you did, Brent's scores are actually higher

You're right. For 2014 CAS Brent had 2 more overall points than Shepherd. Shepherd had three times the FARM students. Ross also outperforms Brent with more Econ diversity. I don't know why you have to be so defensive about one person's personal opinion. Didn't put down Brent. I would send my kid there in a heart beat. I'm not at either school but have done a lot of research for lottery purposes and I stand by my statement. Shepherd is an IB school, has middle/high school option (less attrition), and performs better in m my opinion taking into account Econ disadvantaged.

I was answering the question in my opinion. I'm glad to hear that it's growing more popular with IB families. To another PP, as someone that lives lower NW it's a lot easier to get to Shepherd for us than Brent.

No defensiveness here, my kid doesn't attend either school - but why are you referring to 2014 scores when 2015 scores have been released?

Not interested in the usual DCUM pissing match but here are the facts: 57 percent of Brent 3-5 graders were Level 4-5 in math vs. 39 percent at Shepherd. Similar results for ELA, with 68 percent of Brent testing at Level 4-5 vs. 47 percent at Shepherd. Take it for what it's worth.

Math: 12.1 percent at Brent are Level 5 vs. 5.9 percent at Brent.
ELA: 16.8 percent at Brent are Level 5 vs. 5.2 percent for Shepherd

NP. Not trying to get in pissing match?! Eh, I would look at the last 5 years and not one year and compare. Also, how many kids are testing in each school. I have to admit, I've always found it fascinating that Brent doesn't score like JKLM considering they have same demographics. 64% white, 21% black, 7% Hispanic and 13% FARM and 6% Sped. Shepherd is 78% black, 8% white, 9% Hispanic and 34% Farm, 9% Sped.

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Anonymous wrote:5.9 percent for Math at Shepherd.

We are of course taking about a relatively small testing cohort at each school. 107 at Brent and 132 at Shepherd.

Like mentioned before, sadly district wide, there are very few AA kids that scored 5. You are comparing apples to oranges. I'd like to compare how white vs white and aa vs aa performed as well as farm vs farm do. Unfortunately you cannot since Brent doesn't have enough AA kids and vice versa. However, one can deduce based on school profile. One can compare Brent to WOTP since their demographics are similar and compare Shepherd with Hearst. Shepherd is on par with Hearst and Brent lags far behind with WOTP.

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Anonymous wrote:So, it looks like you need to live on Hill if you're ETOP?

You can get lucky at a charter or go private. Even on the Hill, there is no future past elementary.

Which charters have solid middle school options?

Really only DCI. Maybe Cap City - but their star doesn't shine as brightly as it used to.

DCI did not have high parcc scores, genuinely curious why it is considered a good middle option?

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Anonymous wrote:So, it looks like you need to live on Hill if you're ETOP?

You can get lucky at a charter or go private. Even on the Hill, there is no future past elementary.

Which charters have solid middle school options?

Really only DCI. Maybe Cap City - but their star doesn't shine as brightly as it used to.

DCI did not have high parcc scores, genuinely curious why it is considered a good middle option?

The people who have a path to it keep telling themselves it is the solution for not having any other MS / HS option.

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EL Haynes, Cap City, and KIPP schools have established (track record) MS and HS paths

CMI and IT have plans to grow through MS but are not there yet.

The schools that feed DCI either have established or are expanding to get through MS.

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Anonymous wrote:So, it looks like you need to live on Hill if you're ETOP?

You can get lucky at a charter or go private. Even on the Hill, there is no future past elementary.

Which charters have solid middle school options?

Really only DCI. Maybe Cap City - but their star doesn't shine as brightly as it used to.

DCI did not have high parcc scores, genuinely curious why it is considered a good middle option?

The people who have a path to it keep telling themselves it is the solution for not having any other MS / HS option.

Maybe. But I also those families have a lot of faith in the founders - 'they did YY so they can do it again' - and the IB curriculum.

The DCI population is much more diverse in every way than YY's though. It is a tougher challenge but only time will tell if it works.