Are there any EOTP elementary schools (non-charter) that are great past K?

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Anonymous wrote:EL Haynes, Cap City, and KIPP schools have established (track record) MS and HS paths

CMI and IT have plans to grow through MS but are not there yet.

The schools that feed DCI either have established or are expanding to get through MS.

Actually, ITS is in its 3rd year of official middle school. They are 5th-7th now and will be fully through 8th in August. It's a great program with a phenomenal principal that's somewhat accessible right now.

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Anonymous wrote:I think ranking these schools is an utter waste of time since there are so many other factors at play. I would much rather live on Capitol Hill than Shepherd Park (even though Shepherd is so much cheaper than CH). All the schools listed are great, so it's really a matter of personal choice. I am not impressed with Deal or Wilson so that doesn't matter to me either).

That's funny as I would much rather live in Shepherd Park than CH. in fact, we have three friends that have recently moved there from CH. to each his own I guess. Also I would say "SO much cheaper", but generally speaking yes CH is more expensive.

I think most people in DC say "what? where?" when people talk about shepherds park. No offense. It's not exactly a nice or walkable neighborhood.

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Anonymous wrote:I think ranking these schools is an utter waste of time since there are so many other factors at play. I would much rather live on Capitol Hill than Shepherd Park (even though Shepherd is so much cheaper than CH). All the schools listed are great, so it's really a matter of personal choice. I am not impressed with Deal or Wilson so that doesn't matter to me either).

That's funny as I would much rather live in Shepherd Park than CH. in fact, we have three friends that have recently moved there from CH. to each his own I guess. Also I would say "SO much cheaper", but generally speaking yes CH is more expensive.

I think most people in DC say "what? where?" when people talk about shepherds park. No offense. It's not exactly a nice or walkable neighborhood.

No dog in this fight, but Shepherd park is a very nice neighborhood. Walkable? Not so much unless you consider Silver Spring a destination of worth. Not everyone values walkability, escpecially at the cost of mediocre schools and high crime.

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Anonymous wrote:I think ranking these schools is an utter waste of time since there are so many other factors at play. I would much rather live on Capitol Hill than Shepherd Park (even though Shepherd is so much cheaper than CH). All the schools listed are great, so it's really a matter of personal choice. I am not impressed with Deal or Wilson so that doesn't matter to me either).

That's funny as I would much rather live in Shepherd Park than CH. in fact, we have three friends that have recently moved there from CH. to each his own I guess. Also I would say "SO much cheaper", but generally speaking yes CH is more expensive.

I think most people in DC say "what? where?" when people talk about shepherds park. No offense. It's not exactly a nice or walkable neighborhood.

No dog in this fight, but Shepherd park is a very nice neighborhood. Walkable? Not so much unless you consider Silver Spring a destination of worth. Not everyone values walkability, escpecially at the cost of mediocre schools and high crime.

I don't know any neighborhood that's walkable in the city that also has high crime and mediocre schools.

I think you're making a nasty dig at Capitol Hill, but your information is outdated.

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Anonymous wrote:I think ranking these schools is an utter waste of time since there are so many other factors at play. I would much rather live on Capitol Hill than Shepherd Park (even though Shepherd is so much cheaper than CH). All the schools listed are great, so it's really a matter of personal choice. I am not impressed with Deal or Wilson so that doesn't matter to me either).

That's funny as I would much rather live in Shepherd Park than CH. in fact, we have three friends that have recently moved there from CH. to each his own I guess. Also I would say "SO much cheaper", but generally speaking yes CH is more expensive.

I think most people in DC say "what? where?" when people talk about shepherds park. No offense. It's not exactly a nice or walkable neighborhood.

No dog in this fight, but Shepherd park is a very nice neighborhood. Walkable? Not so much unless you consider Silver Spring a destination of worth. Not everyone values walkability, escpecially at the cost of mediocre schools and high crime.

I don't know any neighborhood that's walkable in the city that also has high crime and mediocre schools.

I think you're making a nasty dig at Capitol Hill, but your information is outdated.

PP isn't making a nasty dig at SP by calling it not so nice?

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Shepherd Park is nice but of course it's not as nice as Capitol Hill. There's nothing there.

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Anonymous wrote:Shepherd Park is nice but of course it's not as nice as Capitol Hill. There's nothing there.

NP. If pick SP over CH any day. People value different things. It's a really beautiful neighborhood neighborhood with access to rock creek park.

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I might as well live in Maryland was going to the suburbs of DC. But to each his own. I prefer CH.

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Anonymous wrote:Shepherd Park is nice but of course it's not as nice as Capitol Hill. There's nothing there.

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Anonymous wrote:I might as well live in Maryland was going to the suburbs of DC. But to each his own. I prefer CH.

I might as well live in the ghettos of seat pleasant, Anacostia or Suitland. See how that works? Also, you still have Eastern so there's that.

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Anonymous wrote:I might as well live in Maryland was going to the suburbs of DC. But to each his own. I prefer CH.

I might as well live in the ghettos of seat pleasant, Anacostia or Suitland. See how that works? Also, you still have Eastern so there's that.

I knew this thread would turn ugly. Hood vs hood at its best. I'm not sure what makes Cap Hill so central and walkable. Eastern market, barracks row. Shepherd park has Takoma Market, access to Silver Spring restaurants, RCP trails. They seem pretty much the same. Cap Hill is more urban, Shepherd park more suburban feel. Cap hill access to downtown and H street, 295 and 395. Shepherd Park WOTP, Columbia Heights, Takoma, 95 and 495. Six in one hand half a dozen in the other. Why do people get so defensive about their neighborhoods? Why the need to trash another?

Let's remember this thread was about viable school EOTP.

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Anonymous wrote:Shepherd Park is nice but of course it's not as nice as Capitol Hill. There's nothing there.

I live in SP and I've only been to Capitol Hill a few times (relatively new to area). Nice area, and great walkability to stuff--something I admittedly miss in SP. However, the Hill is nowhere near where we worked, so we didn't look here at all when looking to buy. We also wanted access to green space--we do trail running, walk our dog, etc. in Rock Creek Park, and where we live in SP allows easy access for outdoorsy types.

I recall going to the Eastern Market area with a friend who lived there at the time, and being struck by how lily-white it was. The only AAs I saw appeared to be either homeless or street vendors. Also, the same friend's child was the only AA in her PK3 class at a Hill DCPS school a few years ago. As a black family, I didn't want our kid to be the "only"--so for this and other reasons, SP was a better fit for us. Also, my friend has since pulled her kids out of the Hill school for an HRCS which happens to be much more diverse.

In general, I think the two neighborhoods and their respective schools are apples and oranges--but again, nice to have options outside of JKLMMs.

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Anonymous wrote:So, it looks like you need to live on Hill if you're ETOP?

You can get lucky at a charter or go private. Even on the Hill, there is no future past elementary.

Which charters have solid middle school options?

Really only DCI. Maybe Cap City - but their star doesn't shine as brightly as it used to.

DCI did not have high parcc scores, genuinely curious why it is considered a good middle option?

The people who have a path to it keep telling themselves it is the solution for not having any other MS / HS option.

Maybe. But I also those families have a lot of faith in the founders - 'they did YY so they can do it again' - and the IB curriculum.

The DCI population is much more diverse in every way than YY's though. It is a tougher challenge but only time will tell if it works.

I can't tell from the website, are there plans to continue the IB curriculum through high school? Is it a path, or is the entire school IB? From what I understand it is a very difficult and rigorous program at the high school level.

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Anonymous wrote:Shepherd Park is nice but of course it's not as nice as Capitol Hill. There's nothing there.

I live in SP and I've only been to Capitol Hill a few times (relatively new to area). Nice area, and great walkability to stuff--something I admittedly miss in SP. However, the Hill is nowhere near where we worked, so we didn't look here at all when looking to buy. We also wanted access to green space--we do trail running, walk our dog, etc. in Rock Creek Park, and where we live in SP allows easy access for outdoorsy types.

I recall going to the Eastern Market area with a friend who lived there at the time, and being struck by how lily-white it was. The only AAs I saw appeared to be either homeless or street vendors. Also, the same friend's child was the only AA in her PK3 class at a Hill DCPS school a few years ago. As a black family, I didn't want our kid to be the "only"--so for this and other reasons, SP was a better fit for us. Also, my friend has since pulled her kids out of the Hill school for an HRCS which happens to be much more diverse.

In general, I think the two neighborhoods and their respective schools are apples and oranges--but again, nice to have options outside of JKLMMs.

I don't live in either. Personally, I agree. I also think Eastern Market is extremely overpriced (but hey they can charge what they want and get away with it).

Anyway, I don't understand how this became turf war because ONE person said they would rank Shepherd higher than Brent due to IB and Deal/Wilson.

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Anonymous wrote:So, it looks like you need to live on Hill if you're ETOP?

You can get lucky at a charter or go private. Even on the Hill, there is no future past elementary.

Which charters have solid middle school options?

Really only DCI. Maybe Cap City - but their star doesn't shine as brightly as it used to.

DCI did not have high parcc scores, genuinely curious why it is considered a good middle option?

The people who have a path to it keep telling themselves it is the solution for not having any other MS / HS option.

Maybe. But I also those families have a lot of faith in the founders - 'they did YY so they can do it again' - and the IB curriculum.

The DCI population is much more diverse in every way than YY's though. It is a tougher challenge but only time will tell if it works.

I can't tell from the website, are there plans to continue the IB curriculum through high school? Is it a path, or is the entire school IB? From what I understand it is a very difficult and rigorous program at the high school level.

Yes the IB program would go through high school. Students will have the choice whether to sit for the IB exam (you can graduate with a DCI diploma but without the IB diploma). There is also going to be an IB career certificate track, for people who are not necessarily college bound.