Are there any EOTP elementary schools (non-charter) that are great past K?

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Anonymous wrote:Shepherd Park is nice but of course it's not as nice as Capitol Hill. There's nothing there.

I live in SP and I've only been to Capitol Hill a few times (relatively new to area). Nice area, and great walkability to stuff--something I admittedly miss in SP. However, the Hill is nowhere near where we worked, so we didn't look here at all when looking to buy. We also wanted access to green space--we do trail running, walk our dog, etc. in Rock Creek Park, and where we live in SP allows easy access for outdoorsy types.

I recall going to the Eastern Market area with a friend who lived there at the time, and being struck by how lily-white it was. The only AAs I saw appeared to be either homeless or street vendors. Also, the same friend's child was the only AA in her PK3 class at a Hill DCPS school a few years ago. As a black family, I didn't want our kid to be the "only"--so for this and other reasons, SP was a better fit for us. Also, my friend has since pulled her kids out of the Hill school for an HRCS which happens to be much more diverse.

In general, I think the two neighborhoods and their respective schools are apples and oranges--but again, nice to have options outside of JKLMMs.

BS. There are a bunch of AA kids in my child's class at Brent, as well as Asian kids. You see the same thing at Peabody, SWS and Maury. Super white is not the Hill.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Shepherd Park is nice but of course it's not as nice as Capitol Hill. There's nothing there.

I live in SP and I've only been to Capitol Hill a few times (relatively new to area). Nice area, and great walkability to stuff--something I admittedly miss in SP. However, the Hill is nowhere near where we worked, so we didn't look here at all when looking to buy. We also wanted access to green space--we do trail running, walk our dog, etc. in Rock Creek Park, and where we live in SP allows easy access for outdoorsy types.

I recall going to the Eastern Market area with a friend who lived there at the time, and being struck by how lily-white it was. The only AAs I saw appeared to be either homeless or street vendors. Also, the same friend's child was the only AA in her PK3 class at a Hill DCPS school a few years ago. As a black family, I didn't want our kid to be the "only"--so for this and other reasons, SP was a better fit for us. Also, my friend has since pulled her kids out of the Hill school for an HRCS which happens to be much more diverse.

In general, I think the two neighborhoods and their respective schools are apples and oranges--but again, nice to have options outside of JKLMMs.

BS. There are a bunch of AA kids in my child's class at Brent, as well as Asian kids. You see the same thing at Peabody, SWS and Maury. Super white is not the Hill.

NP. Brent is 21% black. I wouldn't exactly call that a "bunch of AA kids" in a city that is 50% AA.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Shepherd Park is nice but of course it's not as nice as Capitol Hill. There's nothing there.

I live in SP and I've only been to Capitol Hill a few times (relatively new to area). Nice area, and great walkability to stuff--something I admittedly miss in SP. However, the Hill is nowhere near where we worked, so we didn't look here at all when looking to buy. We also wanted access to green space--we do trail running, walk our dog, etc. in Rock Creek Park, and where we live in SP allows easy access for outdoorsy types.

I recall going to the Eastern Market area with a friend who lived there at the time, and being struck by how lily-white it was. The only AAs I saw appeared to be either homeless or street vendors. Also, the same friend's child was the only AA in her PK3 class at a Hill DCPS school a few years ago. As a black family, I didn't want our kid to be the "only"--so for this and other reasons, SP was a better fit for us. Also, my friend has since pulled her kids out of the Hill school for an HRCS which happens to be much more diverse.

In general, I think the two neighborhoods and their respective schools are apples and oranges--but again, nice to have options outside of JKLMMs.

BS. There are a bunch of AA kids in my child's class at Brent, as well as Asian kids. You see the same thing at Peabody, SWS and Maury. Super white is not the Hill.

NP. Brent is 21% black. I wouldn't exactly call that a "bunch of AA kids" in a city that is 50% AA.

It's also not close to being an only. In a class of 20, that's 4 kids.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Shepherd Park is nice but of course it's not as nice as Capitol Hill. There's nothing there.

I live in SP and I've only been to Capitol Hill a few times (relatively new to area). Nice area, and great walkability to stuff--something I admittedly miss in SP. However, the Hill is nowhere near where we worked, so we didn't look here at all when looking to buy. We also wanted access to green space--we do trail running, walk our dog, etc. in Rock Creek Park, and where we live in SP allows easy access for outdoorsy types.

I recall going to the Eastern Market area with a friend who lived there at the time, and being struck by how lily-white it was. The only AAs I saw appeared to be either homeless or street vendors. Also, the same friend's child was the only AA in her PK3 class at a Hill DCPS school a few years ago. As a black family, I didn't want our kid to be the "only"--so for this and other reasons, SP was a better fit for us. Also, my friend has since pulled her kids out of the Hill school for an HRCS which happens to be much more diverse.

In general, I think the two neighborhoods and their respective schools are apples and oranges--but again, nice to have options outside of JKLMMs.

BS. There are a bunch of AA kids in my child's class at Brent, as well as Asian kids. You see the same thing at Peabody, SWS and Maury. Super white is not the Hill.

NP. Brent is 21% black. I wouldn't exactly call that a "bunch of AA kids" in a city that is 50% AA.

It's also not close to being an only. In a class of 20, that's 4 kids.

There is only 1 African American child in our Pk3 at Maury, but the upper grades are much more integrated. PP is right that Eastern Market is very gentrified/white.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Shepherd Park is nice but of course it's not as nice as Capitol Hill. There's nothing there.

I live in SP and I've only been to Capitol Hill a few times (relatively new to area). Nice area, and great walkability to stuff--something I admittedly miss in SP. However, the Hill is nowhere near where we worked, so we didn't look here at all when looking to buy. We also wanted access to green space--we do trail running, walk our dog, etc. in Rock Creek Park, and where we live in SP allows easy access for outdoorsy types.

I recall going to the Eastern Market area with a friend who lived there at the time, and being struck by how lily-white it was. The only AAs I saw appeared to be either homeless or street vendors. Also, the same friend's child was the only AA in her PK3 class at a Hill DCPS school a few years ago. As a black family, I didn't want our kid to be the "only"--so for this and other reasons, SP was a better fit for us. Also, my friend has since pulled her kids out of the Hill school for an HRCS which happens to be much more diverse.

In general, I think the two neighborhoods and their respective schools are apples and oranges--but again, nice to have options outside of JKLMMs.

BS. There are a bunch of AA kids in my child's class at Brent, as well as Asian kids. You see the same thing at Peabody, SWS and Maury. Super white is not the Hill.

NP. Brent is 21% black. I wouldn't exactly call that a "bunch of AA kids" in a city that is 50% AA.

It's also not close to being an only. In a class of 20, that's 4 kids.

Also the minority children tend to be concentrated in the upper grades so it's quite possible the poster is correct.

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Anonymous wrote:SWS is an EOTP school that is excellent now all the way to 4th and next year I expect it will be excellent through 5th. It is a citywide school but it doesn't feel that way; most families bike or walk to school every day.

As to the comments about H St being useless for families: that's comically untrue. We would love to have more retail on H but the family friendly dining options are amazing.

There are lots of family friendly dining options in Petworth and Columbia Heights now too. What's the point?

Did you not read the thread? There's someone on here claiming no one with kids would want to live near H Street cin pointing out that my neighborhood is crawling with kids.

It is absolutely not crawling with elementary school kids in the older grades. aka, "past K"

stroller brigade ....

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Shepherd Park is nice but of course it's not as nice as Capitol Hill. There's nothing there.

It depends on which end of the neighborhood you live on. We're right near the SS line, and have a few restaurants and bars within a <10 min walk across the SS line (Moorenko's, Denizens, Urban Butcher, Jackies) as well as some less notable options on GA ave in DC (though big point to Teddy's Roti!)

If you're over towards the 16th St side/Alaska Ave (SW end of the hood), the only thing that's walkable is Rock Creek Park - and Walter Reed when that comes along in, oh...10 years.

I feel like one could make similar arguments for some of the schools on the Hill. If you're IB for Maury, you have pretty much nothing there either.

Are you stupid? Maury zone is a 10-15 walk to eastern market and a 10-15 min walk to H street. You're in the middle of everything, without the hobo problems of Eastern Market or H st.

Also SS is a dump.

Eastern Market has 99 problems but I'm pretty sure "hobos" ain't one if them. But I'll keep and eye out for vagabonds with bundles hopping off of freight trains.

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Bundles = bindles

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Wow, this escalated quickly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Maury
Brent
Peabody
Ludlow Taylor
Shepherd
Ross

When people say "EoTP" they generally are referring to the Petwrth, Columbia Heights, Park View, etc neighborhoods. NOT capitol hill schools

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Maury
Brent
Peabody
Ludlow Taylor
Shepherd
Ross

When people say "EoTP" they generally are referring to the Petwrth, Columbia Heights, Park View, etc neighborhoods. NOT capitol hill schools

Also, great is really subjective.
OP - why do you measure "great" by whether those who can afford to stay vs. leave? What % of stay vs. leave makes it great?

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Are you stupid? Maury zone is a 10-15 walk to eastern market and a 10-15 min walk to H street. You're in the middle of everything, without the hobo problems of Eastern Market or H st.

Also SS is a dump

^^^^^ this person doesn't have children and so should not be considered credible when discussing schools, the topic of this thread.

(PoP migrants: you give yourselves away when you preen about how awesome!! it is to be close to H Street. Nobody with actual elementary-aged children gives a flying fuck about quick and easy proximity to bars)

I have a Maury second grader and definitely count H Street being within walking distance as a positive thing about living here. I don't go to the bars that often (though the couple times a year I do, I definitely like that I can walk home instead of worrying about driving), but people with actual elementary age children can certainly give plenty of flying fucks about quick and easy proximity to interesting restaurants, child friendly and otherwise.

[Anonymous]

I'm a Capitol Hill booster but let's be honest, the vast majority of the Maury boundary is not a 15 minute walk to Eastern Market. The far western boundary, maybe, but otherwise, no.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm a Capitol Hill booster but let's be honest, the vast majority of the Maury boundary is not a 15 minute walk to Eastern Market. The far western boundary, maybe, but otherwise, no.

Let's see, I am a 12 minute walk to Eastern Market and a 5 minute walk to Maury. I don't think it is an exaggeration to say that the entire zone is walkable to Eastern Market, and a big chunk is 15-20 mins.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a Capitol Hill booster but let's be honest, the vast majority of the Maury boundary is not a 15 minute walk to Eastern Market. The far western boundary, maybe, but otherwise, no.

Let's see, I am a 12 minute walk to Eastern Market and a 5 minute walk to Maury. I don't think it is an exaggeration to say that the entire zone is walkable to Eastern Market, and a big chunk is 15-20 mins.

Ooooookay. I love Maury, but it's good on its own. You don't have to pretend to be in a different part of the neighborhood than you actually are.