Lamar Odom fighting for life. Found at Bunny Ranch brothel

[Anonymous]

If your children aren't worth it, you'd think having your best friend recently die of a drug overdose would push you to want to really work to get clean.

I don't think Lamar actually wanted/wants to get better. I think some people accept it as a form of slow suicide.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If your children aren't worth it, you'd think having your best friend recently die of a drug overdose would push you to want to really work to get clean.

I don't think Lamar actually wanted/wants to get better. I think some people accept it as a form of slow suicide.

Drugs fuck up your brain chemistry, and addicts often have depression and other mental health battles to begin with. What might make sense to a sober person isn't even on the radar of a person grappling with addiction -- or if it is, it just seems like it's an impossible hole to climb out of.

[Anonymous]

He did what he enjoyed. Hookers and drugs. If he doesn't die, he'll be a vegetable. But, hey, hookers and drugs.

[Anonymous]

Just say no to all drugs. People think they can handle something small and then they move on to the harder stuff. NOT everyone, of course, but enough people start to think they can play around with these substances and get into a really bad place.

Sad.

[Anonymous]

Why crack?

[Anonymous]

Re the post about men not faring well when they come into contact with the Kardashian clan, there's a blind item that just went up, and it's clearly about Rob.

[Anonymous]

Rob being an addict, too? I thought we already knew that

[Anonymous]

How do we know Lamar has any money left? A lot of athletes blow thru their money. No pun intended.

[Anonymous]

Stabilizing a patient means giving them medicine/treatments so that their vital signs come back within the normal range, bleeding is controlled, and the person is being oxygenated either on their own or with mechanical ventilation. Here's a good description from google:
Here are the patient conditions generally agreed upon, and their definitions: - Good: Vital signs such as pulse, temperature and blood pressure are stable and within normal limits. The patient is conscious and comfortable. His outlook for recovery is good or excellent.

- Fair (also satisfactory or stable): Vital signs are stable and within normal limits. The patient is conscious, but he is uncomfortable or may have minor complications. His outlook is favorable.

- Serious (also poor or guarded): The patient is acutely ill with questionable outlook. Vital signs may be unstable or not within normal limits. A chance for improved outlook. Vital signs are unstable or not within normal limits. There are major complications. Death may be imminent.

As a critical care nurse, I'm fairly sure that stable in Lamar's case means they got him alive to the hospital and he didn't die en route. He's in a coma, on dialysis (so his vital organs have begun shutting down ie kidneys) and I'm certain on a ventilator. If he recovers from this, even with severe neuro deficits, I'll be amazed.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Did Fredo Corleone own the brothel where this happened?

I don't get it, but the brothel in question wasn't the Bunny Ranch as stated in the thread title. It was the Love Ranch owned by Dennis Hof who was on HBO's Cathouse.

Really who cares. Aren't they all the same sort of thing?

The Love Ranch used to be called Bunny Ranch 2. They are the same thing all owned by same guy

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Some of you people are so clueless. Addiction is a very, very powerful disease. You don't just "decide" to get clean or continue to use. Some people get themselves together, and many people can't beat it. It is an illness, not a lifestyle choice.

Eh. Even addiction experts will say that this line of black and white thinking is both tricky, somewhat outdated and for many addicts may serve to be counter-productive.

The reality is that its a little bit of BOTH. Like many, many things that effect us there are elements of "nurture" and "nature" that can go into that pathology. Because part of the 'cure' if you will IS a decision making process, every day, to live a lifestyle. It is, therefore, unique from other diseases in that respect that do have a more black and white sort of pathology. There was a piece last year in the Atlantic about the research being done where there is a negative effect with some addicts in the whole "I am powerless over XXXX" being a per-requisite for sobriety.

And some people don't want to get better. I've witnessed that in my own family. But PPs' insistence that somehow someone with wealth and means has a better chance or responsibility to get clean than a poor person is nonsense.

You really don't think that if you took two people with the same kind of addiction, the same emotional and physical health profile and the same desire to get clean, but one had money to afford the best medical care, rehab facilities, etc., and the other had to struggle along on their own because they couldn't afford those programs, the wealthy person wouldn't have even a slightly higher chance of achieving and maintaining sobriety?

Actually, no. Look at the book Inside Rehab. The very expensive rehabs do not have a better track record of keeping patients drug free than far less expensive rehabs. There are a number of country run programs with better success rates. Even the really expensive rehabs almost universally lack the intensive mental care many addicts need--in most you are lucky to get one private therapy session a week.

Also, it is not true you have to want to be clean to be successful in rehab. Studies show that people who are court mandated into rehab have success rates on par with those who go voluntarily. Of course, success rates all around are pretty low. In addition, rehabs are not necessarily the only best choice for recovery--many people are successful getting treatment with a doctor on their own together with private therapy or even just Narcotics Anonymous, which is free.

In terms of medical care there is suboxone--probably overused as it is addictive and naltrexone, a good choice for alcohol and opiate addicts because it is nonaddictive, but which is woefully underused. Both are hugely overshadowed by methadone--the clinics have every interest in keeping people hooked so they can keep their numbers and funding up, but it is wretched drug that can have many adverse side effects over the long run, which the clinics are fine extending to ten or twenty years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Re the post about men not faring well when they come into contact with the Kardashian clan, there's a blind item that just went up, and it's clearly about Rob.

Link??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He did what he enjoyed. Hookers and drugs. If he doesn't die, he'll be a vegetable. But, hey, hookers and drugs.

Pretty much. He was partying and having a "good time". He could have been with his kids, he could have been with one of the folks now flocking to his bedside but instead he chose to spend his weekend at a brothel loading himself up on herbal viagra and cocaine and who knows what else...

I just wonder what state he was in when the brothel staff picked him up at his home. Was this a planned vacay or an impulsive drunk/high decision to go there? Not that it really matters at this point I guess...

[Anonymous]

When is Caitlyn coming to the hospital?

[Anonymous]

via TMZ -- Khloe and Lamar are still married, and she is making decisions for him.

They "officially" signed the papers recently, but those papers have not been processed, and currently await a 2-month backlog in the family courts.