Lamar Odom fighting for life. Found at Bunny Ranch brothel

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The vast majority of addicts suffer from depression or anxiety (or both) brought on by childhood trauma. They use substances like drugs and alcohol to self-medicate. This is a fact.

You can find a sob story in just about anyone's life. ANYONE can be become addicted to addictive substances. Most of us don't dabble in drugs long enough to know which substance is our own Achille's (misspelled sorry) heel. But as a former smoker, myself, I know that addiction is very real and very physical and it happens after you make the conscious choice to expose yourself (repeatedly) to an addictive substance.

Lamar was doing what he was doing - hookers, drugs, drinking - because he was indulging himself in elaborate fashion and it felt good. Someone like Whitney Houston was a full blown addict - the pictures of her hotel bathroom are .

You're seriously delusional and sound completely unhinged. Anyone who loves an addict or works in this arena (check both boxes for me) understands *how and why* addicts become addicts. And it most certainly is not a fun choice as you have asserted. As I was driving my sister to the er the other night as she was going through withdrawal, she looked at me with tears in her eyes and told me that she doesn't want to be "like this" (meaning an addict)...that she didn't choose this...but you would probably discount that given that she partied in high school...20 years ago.

Please step away from this thread...you clearly are clueless.

Uh, the point is that addiction is NO PARTY! That is the point! Addicts wind up like Whitney Houston - it is a sad mess. Nothing fun about NEEDING drugs - google pics of her hotel room. There is nothing FUN about the look of it.

Lamar WAS having fun. He was. If you don't see that than your vision is cloudy. I am sorry about your sister and I hope that she is receptive to getting the help that she needs.

Oy vey, you are crazy!

Lamar was clearly in a downward spiral, looking for a human connection while self-medicating. He wasn't partying in Vegas with buddies. Seriously, you just don't know what you're talking about. Step away from this thread...you are embarrassing yourself.

You just want to write this guy a pass. Whatever, nothing is going to convince you otherwise. You really think that Lamar had to PAY women to have sex with him? Hahahhaha. No he did not. He wanted sex - and LOTS of it with multiple women in many different ways - with no strings attached. And he wanted to drink and drug as much as he wanted. And I'll bet he ate pretty damned well too.

[Anonymous]

^^ PP above -- all that is over for him now.

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Anonymous wrote:Addiction to illicit drugs is the result of poor intentional decisions one makes in their life to use in the first place. You don't accidentally use cocaine. Anyone that thinks it's not intentional is deluding themselves. When is the last time you met someone that accidentally snorted coke?

Most young girls or Lgbtq youth who were trafficked or forced into survival sex.

Last I checked Lamar was not involved in the sex trade as a young child. Most victims involved in the sex trade don't use coke, that is for rich people. You are thinking of heroine.

Last I checked it's spelled heroin (and no one from a prior post). Inability to spell words correctly or look them up is an intentional choice. Being an addict isn't.

While I may have misspelled it, I don't think you're going to convince anyone that snorting cocaine happens by accident. But nice try.

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Anonymous wrote:Lol at the PP who thinks addiction is 100% intentional. Ignorant biotch.

The addiction is not intentional, that is a chemical reaction in response to the INTENTIONAL use of drugs. It's not spelled "biotch" btw. Even if you were trying to avoid using the actual word, the correct form would have been "biatch". LOL at you thinking the use of illegal drugs isn't intentional. Are you on drugs yourself?

Stop. You're embarrassing yourself.

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Anonymous wrote:^^ PP above -- all that is over for him now.

Yes. He jumped the shark. He went too far and he will never be young and healthy again - he will always have health problems from here on out. He'll be lucky to have sex again, he'll likely never be able to drink a glass of wine again. He might very well have food restrictions. he may never again be completely mobile and he may always need help with his self care. And he is only 35.

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Anonymous wrote:Addiction to illicit drugs is the result of poor intentional decisions one makes in their life to use in the first place. You don't accidentally use cocaine. Anyone that thinks it's not intentional is deluding themselves. When is the last time you met someone that accidentally snorted coke?

Why bother to put your two cents in on a discussion that you so clearly know nothing about? Do you think your opinion is that important that we all must hear it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The vast majority of addicts suffer from depression or anxiety (or both) brought on by childhood trauma. They use substances like drugs and alcohol to self-medicate. This is a fact.

You can find a sob story in just about anyone's life. ANYONE can be become addicted to addictive substances. Most of us don't dabble in drugs long enough to know which substance is our own Achille's (misspelled sorry) heel. But as a former smoker, myself, I know that addiction is very real and very physical and it happens after you make the conscious choice to expose yourself (repeatedly) to an addictive substance.

Lamar was doing what he was doing - hookers, drugs, drinking - because he was indulging himself in elaborate fashion and it felt good. Someone like Whitney Houston was a full blown addict - the pictures of her hotel bathroom are .

You're seriously delusional and sound completely unhinged. Anyone who loves an addict or works in this arena (check both boxes for me) understands *how and why* addicts become addicts. And it most certainly is not a fun choice as you have asserted. As I was driving my sister to the er the other night as she was going through withdrawal, she looked at me with tears in her eyes and told me that she doesn't want to be "like this" (meaning an addict)...that she didn't choose this...but you would probably discount that given that she partied in high school...20 years ago.

Please step away from this thread...you clearly are clueless.

Why does it matter that your sister wants to quit...that that nothing to do with what is being said, that she intentionally used illegal drugs to get to where she was. No-one put a gun to her head and made her take them. She was sober one day and she decided she WANTED to try it. The only thing you could argue is that she didn't know that she would become addicted like she did. But that is just lack of judgment and poor decision making. At the end of the day is is still intentional use that lead to her addiction. Most addicts don't "want to be like this anymore", but it doesn't really make much difference after the fact. Yes, your sister chose that path, she just regrets it now...or did someone else choose it for her?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The vast majority of addicts suffer from depression or anxiety (or both) brought on by childhood trauma. They use substances like drugs and alcohol to self-medicate. This is a fact.

You can find a sob story in just about anyone's life. ANYONE can be become addicted to addictive substances. Most of us don't dabble in drugs long enough to know which substance is our own Achille's (misspelled sorry) heel. But as a former smoker, myself, I know that addiction is very real and very physical and it happens after you make the conscious choice to expose yourself (repeatedly) to an addictive substance.

Lamar was doing what he was doing - hookers, drugs, drinking - because he was indulging himself in elaborate fashion and it felt good. Someone like Whitney Houston was a full blown addict - the pictures of her hotel bathroom are .

You're seriously delusional and sound completely unhinged. Anyone who loves an addict or works in this arena (check both boxes for me) understands *how and why* addicts become addicts. And it most certainly is not a fun choice as you have asserted. As I was driving my sister to the er the other night as she was going through withdrawal, she looked at me with tears in her eyes and told me that she doesn't want to be "like this" (meaning an addict)...that she didn't choose this...but you would probably discount that given that she partied in high school...20 years ago.

Please step away from this thread...you clearly are clueless.

Why does it matter that your sister wants to quit...that that nothing to do with what is being said, that she intentionally used illegal drugs to get to where she was. No-one put a gun to her head and made her take them. She was sober one day and she decided she WANTED to try it. The only thing you could argue is that she didn't know that she would become addicted like she did. But that is just lack of judgment and poor decision making. At the end of the day is is still intentional use that lead to her addiction. Most addicts don't "want to be like this anymore", but it doesn't really make much difference after the fact. Yes, your sister chose that path, she just regrets it now...or did someone else choose it for her?

Let's all quit responding to this hogwash. The poster is strangely very bothered by this story and not making a lick of sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The vast majority of addicts suffer from depression or anxiety (or both) brought on by childhood trauma. They use substances like drugs and alcohol to self-medicate. This is a fact.

You can find a sob story in just about anyone's life. ANYONE can be become addicted to addictive substances. Most of us don't dabble in drugs long enough to know which substance is our own Achille's (misspelled sorry) heel. But as a former smoker, myself, I know that addiction is very real and very physical and it happens after you make the conscious choice to expose yourself (repeatedly) to an addictive substance.

Lamar was doing what he was doing - hookers, drugs, drinking - because he was indulging himself in elaborate fashion and it felt good. Someone like Whitney Houston was a full blown addict - the pictures of her hotel bathroom are .

You're seriously delusional and sound completely unhinged. Anyone who loves an addict or works in this arena (check both boxes for me) understands *how and why* addicts become addicts. And it most certainly is not a fun choice as you have asserted. As I was driving my sister to the er the other night as she was going through withdrawal, she looked at me with tears in her eyes and told me that she doesn't want to be "like this" (meaning an addict)...that she didn't choose this...but you would probably discount that given that she partied in high school...20 years ago.

Please step away from this thread...you clearly are clueless.

Why does it matter that your sister wants to quit...that that nothing to do with what is being said, that she intentionally used illegal drugs to get to where she was. No-one put a gun to her head and made her take them. She was sober one day and she decided she WANTED to try it. The only thing you could argue is that she didn't know that she would become addicted like she did. But that is just lack of judgment and poor decision making. At the end of the day is is still intentional use that lead to her addiction. Most addicts don't "want to be like this anymore", but it doesn't really make much difference after the fact. Yes, your sister chose that path, she just regrets it now...or did someone else choose it for her?

As a quasi-defense of poor decisions I would say the addict is very weak. I agree that drugs are not the way to avoid personal pain of any kind, but maybe that person is so weak emotionally or mentally they don't think it through.

Bottom line though is that it is a decision someone makes one day to try a potentially addicting, life-threatening road for themselves.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lol at the PP who thinks addiction is 100% intentional. Ignorant biotch.

The addiction is not intentional, that is a chemical reaction in response to the INTENTIONAL use of drugs. It's not spelled "biotch" btw. Even if you were trying to avoid using the actual word, the correct form would have been "biatch". LOL at you thinking the use of illegal drugs isn't intentional. Are you on drugs yourself?

Stop. You're embarrassing yourself.

I disagree....I think you need help if you think using drugs like cocaine is not an intentional choice. He is not hooked on pain meds that he had to take for a condition. It's cocaine. Wake up. I'm worried for your children if you have any. Try not to let them "accidentally" get hooked on cocaine.

[Anonymous]

And lord knows you don't want to "accidentally" develop an addiction to herbal Viagra.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Addiction to illicit drugs is the result of poor intentional decisions one makes in their life to use in the first place. You don't accidentally use cocaine. Anyone that thinks it's not intentional is deluding themselves. When is the last time you met someone that accidentally snorted coke?

Why bother to put your two cents in on a discussion that you so clearly know nothing about? Do you think your opinion is that important that we all must hear it?

Sorry I hit a nerve, but I didn't say anything that is not true. You just prefer no-one says what most people here are already thinking. I've tried cocaine once in my life, and I've dabbled in other recreational drugs when I was younger.. I was fully aware of what I was doing. Thankfully I was smart enough to not try it again. I'd say I probably have more experience with it than you. There's another 2 cents for ya, cha-china! Please tell me some stories of people you know that accidentally snorted coke. They must be very interesting to hear.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lol at the PP who thinks addiction is 100% intentional. Ignorant biotch.

The addiction is not intentional, that is a chemical reaction in response to the INTENTIONAL use of drugs. It's not spelled "biotch" btw. Even if you were trying to avoid using the actual word, the correct form would have been "biatch". LOL at you thinking the use of illegal drugs isn't intentional. Are you on drugs yourself?

Stop. You're embarrassing yourself.

I disagree....I think you need help if you think using drugs like cocaine is not an intentional choice. He is not hooked on pain meds that he had to take for a condition. It's cocaine. Wake up. I'm worried for your children if you have any. Try not to let them "accidentally" get hooked on cocaine.

How do you know he was not prescribed pain medication to deal with a condition, became addicted and then turned to cocaine because he can't get the meds anymore.

Do you know if he suffers from depression? Do you know.. NOBODY know how to treat depression and anxiety. NOBODY, they give you something and it might work, maybe not, so try something else... my bad.. that didn't work either.

His mom died when he was 12.. 12... 12 years old.

WTFF is wrong with you.

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People on here come from white privilege and don't understand how it is to be born into a community where drugs are the norm. I won't even bother explaining it to you all because it will never change your attitude but I come from a community where drug use is the norm which results in single or no parent households, lots of free time at a young age, no direction and not knowing a different life, and you also have the genetic component as well as the societal implications. Its just a different world that most of you will never know...consider yourself lucky.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Addiction to illicit drugs is the result of poor intentional decisions one makes in their life to use in the first place. You don't accidentally use cocaine. Anyone that thinks it's not intentional is deluding themselves. When is the last time you met someone that accidentally snorted coke?

Why bother to put your two cents in on a discussion that you so clearly know nothing about? Do you think your opinion is that important that we all must hear it?

Sorry I hit a nerve, but I didn't say anything that is not true. You just prefer no-one says what most people here are already thinking. I've tried cocaine once in my life, and I've dabbled in other recreational drugs when I was younger.. I was fully aware of what I was doing. Thankfully I was smart enough to not try it again. I'd say I probably have more experience with it than you. There's another 2 cents for ya, cha-china! Please tell me some stories of people you know that accidentally snorted coke. They must be very interesting to hear.

You are a self righteous idiot. I am not the PP you are responding to but I think she hit a nerve... you so want to just believe everything is in your control.... good luck with that and your lack of compassion, it will be returned to your 10 fold.