Lamar Odom fighting for life. Found at Bunny Ranch brothel

[Anonymous]

http://www.tmz.com/2015/10/14/lamar-odom-strokes-kidney-jesse-jackson/

Lamar Odom had multiple strokes as a result of his medical emergency ... this according to witnesses at the hospital.

We're told an MRI revealed since being admitted to the hospital in Las Vegas Tuesday night, Lamar suffered multiple strokes. It's unclear if brain damage resulted from the strokes.

We're also told Lamar is on a 3-5 hour dialysis for kidney failure.

Our sources say Lamar remains unconscious and unresponsive, which is in contrast to what Jesse Jackson just told the media.

[Anonymous]

I cant stand Jesse Jackson.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some of you people are so clueless. Addiction is a very, very powerful disease. You don't just "decide" to get clean or continue to use. Some people get themselves together, and many people can't beat it. It is an illness, not a lifestyle choice.

Eh. Even addiction experts will say that this line of black and white thinking is both tricky, somewhat outdated and for many addicts may serve to be counter-productive.

The reality is that its a little bit of BOTH. Like many, many things that effect us there are elements of "nurture" and "nature" that can go into that pathology. Because part of the 'cure' if you will IS a decision making process, every day, to live a lifestyle. It is, therefore, unique from other diseases in that respect that do have a more black and white sort of pathology. There was a piece last year in the Atlantic about the research being done where there is a negative effect with some addicts in the whole "I am powerless over XXXX" being a per-requisite for sobriety.

And some people don't want to get better. I've witnessed that in my own family. But PPs' insistence that somehow someone with wealth and means has a better chance or responsibility to get clean than a poor person is nonsense.

[Anonymous]

"sources" (aka Pimp Mama Kris) claim Lamar was using drugs all weekend.

http://gawker.com/e-news-reports-lamar-odom-is-being-treated-for-potenti-1736495019

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did Fredo Corleone own the brothel where this happened?

I don't get it, but the brothel in question wasn't the Bunny Ranch as stated in the thread title. It was the Love Ranch owned by Dennis Hof who was on HBO's Cathouse.

Really who cares. Aren't they all the same sort of thing?

Whoosh!

Well, this part of the thread is upsetting. Seriously PPs?!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did Fredo Corleone own the brothel where this happened?

I don't get it, but the brothel in question wasn't the Bunny Ranch as stated in the thread title. It was the Love Ranch owned by Dennis Hof who was on HBO's Cathouse.

Really who cares. Aren't they all the same sort of thing?

Whoosh!

Well, this part of the thread is upsetting. Seriously PPs?!

Not getting a Godfather reference right away is what is "upsetting" to you about this thread? Poor Lamar!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some of you people are so clueless. Addiction is a very, very powerful disease. You don't just "decide" to get clean or continue to use. Some people get themselves together, and many people can't beat it. It is an illness, not a lifestyle choice.

Eh. Even addiction experts will say that this line of black and white thinking is both tricky, somewhat outdated and for many addicts may serve to be counter-productive.

The reality is that its a little bit of BOTH. Like many, many things that effect us there are elements of "nurture" and "nature" that can go into that pathology. Because part of the 'cure' if you will IS a decision making process, every day, to live a lifestyle. It is, therefore, unique from other diseases in that respect that do have a more black and white sort of pathology. There was a piece last year in the Atlantic about the research being done where there is a negative effect with some addicts in the whole "I am powerless over XXXX" being a per-requisite for sobriety.

And some people don't want to get better. I've witnessed that in my own family. But PPs' insistence that somehow someone with wealth and means has a better chance or responsibility to get clean than a poor person is nonsense.

You really don't think that if you took two people with the same kind of addiction, the same emotional and physical health profile and the same desire to get clean, but one had money to afford the best medical care, rehab facilities, etc., and the other had to struggle along on their own because they couldn't afford those programs, the wealthy person wouldn't have even a slightly higher chance of achieving and maintaining sobriety?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did Fredo Corleone own the brothel where this happened?

I don't get it, but the brothel in question wasn't the Bunny Ranch as stated in the thread title. It was the Love Ranch owned by Dennis Hof who was on HBO's Cathouse.

Really who cares. Aren't they all the same sort of thing?

Whoosh!

Well, this part of the thread is upsetting. Seriously PPs?!

Not getting a Godfather reference right away is what is "upsetting" to you about this thread? Poor Lamar!

Oh lighten up! Some of you are so humorless.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some of you people are so clueless. Addiction is a very, very powerful disease. You don't just "decide" to get clean or continue to use. Some people get themselves together, and many people can't beat it. It is an illness, not a lifestyle choice.

Eh. Even addiction experts will say that this line of black and white thinking is both tricky, somewhat outdated and for many addicts may serve to be counter-productive.

The reality is that its a little bit of BOTH. Like many, many things that effect us there are elements of "nurture" and "nature" that can go into that pathology. Because part of the 'cure' if you will IS a decision making process, every day, to live a lifestyle. It is, therefore, unique from other diseases in that respect that do have a more black and white sort of pathology. There was a piece last year in the Atlantic about the research being done where there is a negative effect with some addicts in the whole "I am powerless over XXXX" being a per-requisite for sobriety.

And some people don't want to get better. I've witnessed that in my own family. But PPs' insistence that somehow someone with wealth and means has a better chance or responsibility to get clean than a poor person is nonsense.

You really don't think that if you took two people with the same kind of addiction, the same emotional and physical health profile and the same desire to get clean, but one had money to afford the best medical care, rehab facilities, etc., and the other had to struggle along on their own because they couldn't afford those programs, the wealthy person wouldn't have even a slightly higher chance of achieving and maintaining sobriety?

Not that PP, but look at the high number of wealthy celebs and athletes who have battled addiction and relapsed, some multiple times.

[Anonymous]

I feel really bad for his kids, it's bad enough that it happened, but to also know that your dad overdosed at a brothel has to make it worse.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some of you people are so clueless. Addiction is a very, very powerful disease. You don't just "decide" to get clean or continue to use. Some people get themselves together, and many people can't beat it. It is an illness, not a lifestyle choice.

Eh. Even addiction experts will say that this line of black and white thinking is both tricky, somewhat outdated and for many addicts may serve to be counter-productive.

The reality is that its a little bit of BOTH. Like many, many things that effect us there are elements of "nurture" and "nature" that can go into that pathology. Because part of the 'cure' if you will IS a decision making process, every day, to live a lifestyle. It is, therefore, unique from other diseases in that respect that do have a more black and white sort of pathology. There was a piece last year in the Atlantic about the research being done where there is a negative effect with some addicts in the whole "I am powerless over XXXX" being a per-requisite for sobriety.

And some people don't want to get better. I've witnessed that in my own family. But PPs' insistence that somehow someone with wealth and means has a better chance or responsibility to get clean than a poor person is nonsense.

You really don't think that if you took two people with the same kind of addiction, the same emotional and physical health profile and the same desire to get clean, but one had money to afford the best medical care, rehab facilities, etc., and the other had to struggle along on their own because they couldn't afford those programs, the wealthy person wouldn't have even a slightly higher chance of achieving and maintaining sobriety?

Not that PP, but look at the high number of wealthy celebs and athletes who have battled addiction and relapsed, some multiple times.

Whitney Houston
Philip Seymour Hoffman
Corey Monteith
Darryl Strawberry
Dwight Gooden
Kelly Osbourne
Charlie Sheen
Robert Downey Jr
Drew Barrymore
Lindsay Lohan
Tara Reid
Lawrence Taylor

[Anonymous]

More disposable income to spend on more drugs.

[Anonymous]

And more "yes" people around you to cover up your bullshit

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:More disposable income to spend on more drugs.

Not to mention high-rolling friends, as well as plenty of hangers-on who don't have your best interests at heart.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some of you people are so clueless. Addiction is a very, very powerful disease. You don't just "decide" to get clean or continue to use. Some people get themselves together, and many people can't beat it. It is an illness, not a lifestyle choice.

Eh. Even addiction experts will say that this line of black and white thinking is both tricky, somewhat outdated and for many addicts may serve to be counter-productive.

The reality is that its a little bit of BOTH. Like many, many things that effect us there are elements of "nurture" and "nature" that can go into that pathology. Because part of the 'cure' if you will IS a decision making process, every day, to live a lifestyle. It is, therefore, unique from other diseases in that respect that do have a more black and white sort of pathology. There was a piece last year in the Atlantic about the research being done where there is a negative effect with some addicts in the whole "I am powerless over XXXX" being a per-requisite for sobriety.

And some people don't want to get better. I've witnessed that in my own family. But PPs' insistence that somehow someone with wealth and means has a better chance or responsibility to get clean than a poor person is nonsense.

You really don't think that if you took two people with the same kind of addiction, the same emotional and physical health profile and the same desire to get clean, but one had money to afford the best medical care, rehab facilities, etc., and the other had to struggle along on their own because they couldn't afford those programs, the wealthy person wouldn't have even a slightly higher chance of achieving and maintaining sobriety?

Not that PP, but look at the high number of wealthy celebs and athletes who have battled addiction and relapsed, some multiple times.

Whitney Houston
Philip Seymour Hoffman
Corey Monteith
Darryl Strawberry
Dwight Gooden
Kelly Osbourne
Charlie Sheen
Robert Downey Jr
Drew Barrymore
Lindsay Lohan
Tara Reid
Lawrence Taylor

And of these, look how many have a parent or child who also has battled addiction. I am not a celebrity watcher but I think there are at least four on this list alone. There is a strong familial component whether it's nature or nurture or both.