What needs to change in our culture for rape to be less common on college campuses?

[Anonymous]

The fact that there are still commenters here who say that women should drink less, dress differently, etc. Or that it's too easy to report rape - are you fucking serious?? People like you are exactly the problem - victims are not to blame. A woman could be walking naked down the street hopped up on every drug available and she's still not asking to be raped. The assumption that the victim is culpable in her own assault is fucked up.

Also - please stop whining about 'not all men.' Yeah, we get it. Not all men are predators or rapists. But guess what - ALL women have to deal with the systematic oppression of rape culture. Ask any woman you know - I bet every single one of them has a story about being cat called or groped or harassed at work or, yes, even raped. I bet most if them hav several. So sit down for a minute - it's not fucking about you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The fact that there are still commenters here who say that women should drink less, dress differently, etc. Or that it's too easy to report rape - are you fucking serious?? People like you are exactly the problem - victims are not to blame. A woman could be walking naked down the street hopped up on every drug available and she's still not asking to be raped. The assumption that the victim is culpable in her own assault is fucked up.

Also - please stop whining about 'not all men.' Yeah, we get it. Not all men are predators or rapists. But guess what - ALL women have to deal with the systematic oppression of rape culture. Ask any woman you know - I bet every single one of them has a story about being cat called or groped or harassed at work or, yes, even raped. I bet most if them hav several. So sit down for a minute - it's not fucking about you.

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This comment, forever and ever, a million times over.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The fact that there are still commenters here who say that women should drink less, dress differently, etc. Or that it's too easy to report rape - are you fucking serious?? People like you are exactly the problem - victims are not to blame. A woman could be walking naked down the street hopped up on every drug available and she's still not asking to be raped. The assumption that the victim is culpable in her own assault is fucked up.

Also - please stop whining about 'not all men.' Yeah, we get it. Not all men are predators or rapists. But guess what - ALL women have to deal with the systematic oppression of rape culture. Ask any woman you know - I bet every single one of them has a story about being cat called or groped or harassed at work or, yes, even raped. I bet most if them hav several. So sit down for a minute - it's not fucking about you.

Sorry, blanket statements don't work for either side of this discussion. My friends and I are part of ALL Women and have not had to deal with the systematic oppression of rape culture as you choose to call it. Catcalled, groped and harassed at work, all of us? Sounds like someone takes herself way too seriously. I truly feel for you if you have been raped -- no woman should have to go through that ever -- but equating this other juvenile male nonsense that most of us manage to ignore with rape, is just silly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The fact that there are still commenters here who say that women should drink less, dress differently, etc. Or that it's too easy to report rape - are you fucking serious?? People like you are exactly the problem - victims are not to blame. A woman could be walking naked down the street hopped up on every drug available and she's still not asking to be raped. The assumption that the victim is culpable in her own assault is fucked up.

Also - please stop whining about 'not all men.' Yeah, we get it. Not all men are predators or rapists. But guess what - ALL women have to deal with the systematic oppression of rape culture. Ask any woman you know - I bet every single one of them has a story about being cat called or groped or harassed at work or, yes, even raped. I bet most if them hav several. So sit down for a minute - it's not fucking about you.

Sorry, blanket statements don't work for either side of this discussion. My friends and I are part of ALL Women and have not had to deal with the systematic oppression of rape culture as you choose to call it. Catcalled, groped and harassed at work, all of us? Sounds like someone takes herself way too seriously. I truly feel for you if you have been raped -- no woman should have to go through that ever -- but equating this other juvenile male nonsense that most of us manage to ignore with rape, is just silly.

If you are a woman, you should truly be so ashamed. It is not "juvenile male nonsense" when women are feeling threatened- that is much more serious. If you really dont take it seriously or haven't faced it yourself, fine (although I find that hard to believe). But respect that many, many other women have felt threatened and it has affected their ability to go about their day to day lives and respect that that needs to change.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The fact that there are still commenters here who say that women should drink less, dress differently, etc. Or that it's too easy to report rape - are you fucking serious?? People like you are exactly the problem - victims are not to blame. A woman could be walking naked down the street hopped up on every drug available and she's still not asking to be raped. The assumption that the victim is culpable in her own assault is fucked up.

Also - please stop whining about 'not all men.' Yeah, we get it. Not all men are predators or rapists. But guess what - ALL women have to deal with the systematic oppression of rape culture. Ask any woman you know - I bet every single one of them has a story about being cat called or groped or harassed at work or, yes, even raped. I bet most if them hav several. So sit down for a minute - it's not fucking about you.

Sorry, blanket statements don't work for either side of this discussion. My friends and I are part of ALL Women and have not had to deal with the systematic oppression of rape culture as you choose to call it. Catcalled, groped and harassed at work, all of us? Sounds like someone takes herself way too seriously. I truly feel for you if you have been raped -- no woman should have to go through that ever -- but equating this other juvenile male nonsense that most of us manage to ignore with rape, is just silly.

Are you truly unable to grasp how a society that has a cavalier attitude towards so called 'juvenile' things like groping a woman might also have a cavalier attitude to rape? Is it not possible that people who do things like grope an unwilling person might graduate to rape?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The fact that there are still commenters here who say that women should drink less, dress differently, etc. Or that it's too easy to report rape - are you fucking serious?? People like you are exactly the problem - victims are not to blame. A woman could be walking naked down the street hopped up on every drug available and she's still not asking to be raped. The assumption that the victim is culpable in her own assault is fucked up.

Also - please stop whining about 'not all men.' Yeah, we get it. Not all men are predators or rapists. But guess what - ALL women have to deal with the systematic oppression of rape culture. Ask any woman you know - I bet every single one of them has a story about being cat called or groped or harassed at work or, yes, even raped. I bet most if them hav several. So sit down for a minute - it's not fucking about you.

First off, I suggest YOU "sit down for a minute" and stop trying to control this thread and the opinions expressed within it. I haven't seen one post which even suggests victim blaming; good try, making that one up and repeating it over and over. You obviously enjoy inaccurately spinning other people's words so you can get in everyone's face and pick a fight. Please, show us the post that states the above bolded statement - oh right, no one said that, you completely made it up.

The PPs who have made the most sense are those who are advocating real help for victims: urging them to report the rape immediately and gather evidence so as to convict the perps and prevent it from happening again. You want to paint it as if anyone encouraging rape reporting must be somehow blaming the victim???? You're making no sense whatsoever, just talking bloody nonsense. If you truly wanted to help rape victims, you would STFU with your stupid platitudes and cliches and advocate getting real help for rape victims. You have absolutely nothing substantive to add to the conversation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The fact that there are still commenters here who say that women should drink less, dress differently, etc. Or that it's too easy to report rape - are you fucking serious?? People like you are exactly the problem - victims are not to blame. A woman could be walking naked down the street hopped up on every drug available and she's still not asking to be raped. The assumption that the victim is culpable in her own assault is fucked up.

Also - please stop whining about 'not all men.' Yeah, we get it. Not all men are predators or rapists. But guess what - ALL women have to deal with the systematic oppression of rape culture. Ask any woman you know - I bet every single one of them has a story about being cat called or groped or harassed at work or, yes, even raped. I bet most if them hav several. So sit down for a minute - it's not fucking about you.

First off, I suggest YOU "sit down for a minute" and stop trying to control this thread and the opinions expressed within it. I haven't seen one post which even suggests victim blaming; good try, making that one up and repeating it over and over. You obviously enjoy inaccurately spinning other people's words so you can get in everyone's face and pick a fight. Please, show us the post that states the above bolded statement - oh right, no one said that, you completely made it up.

10:25 - "people need to stop making themselves easy targets"
11:09 - "too easy to claim rape"
12:41 - "students, especially young women, need to watch binge drinking"
14:37 - "a better handle on the concept of rape vs regret"
14:39 - "put some clothes on the female news anchors"

There ya go, sport.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The fact that there are still commenters here who say that women should drink less, dress differently, etc. Or that it's too easy to report rape - are you fucking serious?? People like you are exactly the problem - victims are not to blame. A woman could be walking naked down the street hopped up on every drug available and she's still not asking to be raped. The assumption that the victim is culpable in her own assault is fucked up.

Also - please stop whining about 'not all men.' Yeah, we get it. Not all men are predators or rapists. But guess what - ALL women have to deal with the systematic oppression of rape culture. Ask any woman you know - I bet every single one of them has a story about being cat called or groped or harassed at work or, yes, even raped. I bet most if them hav several. So sit down for a minute - it's not fucking about you.

First off, I suggest YOU "sit down for a minute" and stop trying to control this thread and the opinions expressed within it. I haven't seen one post which even suggests victim blaming; good try, making that one up and repeating it over and over. You obviously enjoy inaccurately spinning other people's words so you can get in everyone's face and pick a fight. Please, show us the post that states the above bolded statement - oh right, no one said that, you completely made it up.

10:25 - "people need to stop making themselves easy targets"
11:09 - "too easy to claim rape"
12:41 - "students, especially young women, need to watch binge drinking"
14:37 - "a better handle on the concept of rape vs regret"
14:39 - "put some clothes on the female news anchors"

There ya go, sport.

x2. I'm pretty sure we are responding to a troll. The worst kind- a misogynist one. And one who refuses to own up to their own misogyny.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The fact that there are still commenters here who say that women should drink less, dress differently, etc. Or that it's too easy to report rape - are you fucking serious?? People like you are exactly the problem - victims are not to blame. A woman could be walking naked down the street hopped up on every drug available and she's still not asking to be raped. The assumption that the victim is culpable in her own assault is fucked up.

Also - please stop whining about 'not all men.' Yeah, we get it. Not all men are predators or rapists. But guess what - ALL women have to deal with the systematic oppression of rape culture. Ask any woman you know - I bet every single one of them has a story about being cat called or groped or harassed at work or, yes, even raped. I bet most if them hav several. So sit down for a minute - it's not fucking about you.

First off, I suggest YOU "sit down for a minute" and stop trying to control this thread and the opinions expressed within it. I haven't seen one post which even suggests victim blaming; good try, making that one up and repeating it over and over. You obviously enjoy inaccurately spinning other people's words so you can get in everyone's face and pick a fight. Please, show us the post that states the above bolded statement - oh right, no one said that, you completely made it up.

10:25 - "people need to stop making themselves easy targets"
11:09 - "too easy to claim rape"
12:41 - "students, especially young women, need to watch binge drinking"
14:37 - "a better handle on the concept of rape vs regret"
14:39 - "put some clothes on the female news anchors"

There ya go, sport.

x2. I'm pretty sure we are responding to a troll. The worst kind- a misogynist one. And one who refuses to own up to their own misogyny.

wow. That's saying a lot on DCUM. I don't agree with that title but we all have our opinions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The fact that there are still commenters here who say that women should drink less, dress differently, etc. Or that it's too easy to report rape - are you fucking serious?? People like you are exactly the problem - victims are not to blame. A woman could be walking naked down the street hopped up on every drug available and she's still not asking to be raped. The assumption that the victim is culpable in her own assault is fucked up.

Also - please stop whining about 'not all men.' Yeah, we get it. Not all men are predators or rapists. But guess what - ALL women have to deal with the systematic oppression of rape culture. Ask any woman you know - I bet every single one of them has a story about being cat called or groped or harassed at work or, yes, even raped. I bet most if them hav several. So sit down for a minute - it's not fucking about you.

First off, I suggest YOU "sit down for a minute" and stop trying to control this thread and the opinions expressed within it. I haven't seen one post which even suggests victim blaming; good try, making that one up and repeating it over and over. You obviously enjoy inaccurately spinning other people's words so you can get in everyone's face and pick a fight. Please, show us the post that states the above bolded statement - oh right, no one said that, you completely made it up.

The PPs who have made the most sense are those who are advocating real help for victims: urging them to report the rape immediately and gather evidence so as to convict the perps and prevent it from happening again. You want to paint it as if anyone encouraging rape reporting must be somehow blaming the victim???? You're making no sense whatsoever, just talking bloody nonsense. If you truly wanted to help rape victims, you would STFU with your stupid platitudes and cliches and advocate getting real help for rape victims. You have absolutely nothing substantive to add to the conversation.

THANK YOU. +100000
Very, very well said.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The fact that there are still commenters here who say that women should drink less, dress differently, etc. Or that it's too easy to report rape - are you fucking serious?? People like you are exactly the problem - victims are not to blame. A woman could be walking naked down the street hopped up on every drug available and she's still not asking to be raped. The assumption that the victim is culpable in her own assault is fucked up.

Also - please stop whining about 'not all men.' Yeah, we get it. Not all men are predators or rapists. But guess what - ALL women have to deal with the systematic oppression of rape culture. Ask any woman you know - I bet every single one of them has a story about being cat called or groped or harassed at work or, yes, even raped. I bet most if them hav several. So sit down for a minute - it's not fucking about you.

First off, I suggest YOU "sit down for a minute" and stop trying to control this thread and the opinions expressed within it. I haven't seen one post which even suggests victim blaming; good try, making that one up and repeating it over and over. You obviously enjoy inaccurately spinning other people's words so you can get in everyone's face and pick a fight. Please, show us the post that states the above bolded statement - oh right, no one said that, you completely made it up.

10:25 - "people need to stop making themselves easy targets"
11:09 - "too easy to claim rape"
12:41 - "students, especially young women, need to watch binge drinking"
14:37 - "a better handle on the concept of rape vs regret"
14:39 - "put some clothes on the female news anchors"

There ya go, sport.

x2. I'm pretty sure we are responding to a troll. The worst kind- a misogynist one. And one who refuses to own up to their own misogyny.

A troll? Misogyny? We must be reading different posts altogether. Calling someone a troll because you disagree with them is one of the laziest, most juvenile way of "responding" here on DCUM. And calling someone misogynistic because they are urging women to report rape?? I certainly wish I had had someone in my corner, encouraging me to do just that when I was raped as a sophomore in college. Then perhaps the man who raped me would be behind bars today. You people are idiots if you think things will magically get better without reporting of these crimes. They won't and they haven't because there is no deterrent. Rapists are counting on their victims not coming forward. Nothing will change until women start reporting rape, period. I live every day with regret that I didn't.

[Anonymous]

The only thing that will seriously reduce future incidents would be the sight of the Virginia Phi Psi rape suspects in handcuffs. Arrest them during Monday Night Football to really get the message across. Detain those privileged hell raisers (all white, not a Black one in the 2012 pledge class) to a place where they have to share a shower with the Hanna Graham murder suspect until they make bail. THAT will send a message that society does not support them. If the UVA rapists are not indicted now after all this publicity (or worse, if they are allowed to surrender in suits and ties accompanied by daddy’s lawyers) then tomorrow’s rapists (who are paying attention to the silent signals the grown ups send on this) will see correctly that they can get away with it, too.

[Anonymous]

We allow our boy children to play video games with violence against women. We don't insist that police depts process rape kits. We allow military hierarchy to absolve people of guilt for sexual crimes We blame girls for drinking too much and dressing like sluts. Colleges hold dances called "freshmen Screw".
We are surprised by the rape statistics?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We allow our boy children to play video games with violence against women. We don't insist that police depts process rape kits. We allow military hierarchy to absolve people of guilt for sexual crimes We blame girls for drinking too much and dressing like sluts. Colleges hold dances called "freshmen Screw".
We are surprised by the rape statistics?

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[Anonymous]

Sex encounters should be video taped to protect men and women