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By the way, I agree the Prep list looks similar to Landon's lists.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the Landon - Prep rivarly has died down significantly in the past 5 years.

I remember in the 90's you would often hear about big weekend fights at parties. They probably should have stopped playing one another in football and lacrosse back then.

Nowadays, too many kids from these schools play with one another on the same club lacrosse or hockey team.

The lacrosse rivalry is not what it was because Prep has left Landon behind in recent years, and will continue. The vitriol rocket fuel is to be competitive, and Landon's psyche as an institution is tied to the lacrosse successes, of which there have been few in the recent years. When your kid goes to Prep and athletics don't drive great outcomes, it is still a great education that will get you matriculated to a better school than same GPA at a public school. When your kid goes to Landon and lacrosse does not drive great outcomes, what happened is you get a public school equivalent education with a $35K lacrosse fee.

Start naming all the Ivy, Stanford or little Ivies admits from Landon who are NOT lacrosse players. The matriculation numbers with the lax bros pulled show a lot worse than the public schools in BCC. 'Nuff said.

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Here's Prep's matriculation list with actual student's names: http://www.gprep.org/page.cfm?p=1142

Here's Landon's "select" matriculation list. I guess they don't like to publicize the heavy proportion of tier 4 schools their graduates attend every year:
http://www.landon.net/page.cfm?p=4379

http://www.landon.net/uploaded/documents/news/2011-2012/Matriculation_2012.pdf



Actually Landon doesn't publish their list till graduation. This has names as well.

Only one of the students attending an ivy in 2012 was a lacrosse player.

Of all the private schools in the area, Landon and Prep share the most similarities of any pairing I can think of. The clearest common denominator reading these boards is the parents (and perhaps the students) seem to have a paradoxical, dual edge inferiority complex. On one hand, they're not academically competitive with the Sidwells and St. Albans/NCSs of the world and on the other hand they're not athletically competitive with the Gonzaga/St. John's/De Matha cohort. As such, they're constantly striving to outdo one another on the margins of academics and athletics which feeds the intense rivalry.

This is an interesting post, but it's wrong.

Whereas GP and Landon are similar in many respects, they draw from a different pool of applicants. They are not alternatives to one another. It is extremely rare for a family to consider both. Gonzaga is the alternative to Georgetown Prep, not Lndon.

Both schools know that in most sports --- especially in football and basketball --- they are not going to be competitive with the WCAC schools. And they don't generally worry about it. Although GP would like to beat its brother Jesuit school, Gonzaga, occasionally in football.

The vitriol between GP and Landon has its roots on two separate visions of athletics.

The GP people arenlt at all concerned at where they fit vs. Sidwell or STA. These aren't schools they would ever consider

Well, if you take out the Catholic vs. non-denominational part (which isn't trivial), these schools at the high school level are indeed very similar. Both in suburban montgomery county/bethesda/n. bethesda, all boys, strong majority white upper middle class, lots of legacies, emphasize toughness/athletic prowess, gorgeous, state-of-the art campuses/facilities, very strong albeit not elite academics, same tuition, similar college matriculation, tend to excel at the same sports. What other private schools are more similar to one another than GP and Landon?

But if you include the religious element, is not GP mostly Catholic, and Landon not? My sense also is that Landon families are more concerned with status (living in the right neighborhoods, joining the right clubs, vacationing in the right places) than are those at GP, and therein lies a world of difference. Does anyone know what their respective endowments are?

if you subtract out the African Americans and Asian students (mostly boarders) the remaining significant majority of students are just about all Catholic. It's a school run by a Catholic religious order that primarily serves the Catholic population. It's the suburban version of Gonzaga, which serves the same population.

If there are a few Catholics at Landon, it is those that didn't get the memo. If the Catholic population at Landon is 20%, it is still just a handful of families, many of whom are not from DC or are not really part of the large, somewhat insular, Catholic community.

Most GP Students come from Catholic grammar schools. An outsized proportion go on to Catholic colleges and Universities, especially the Jesuit colleges and Universities. It's these schools where these boys enjoy an advantage in the admissions process.

Do GP and Landon have similar characteristics? Sure. But the most important difference is that they serve two different populations. They are not alternatives to one another for the overwhelming majority of families.

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Perhaps Landon and Prep are not alternatives to one another for most families. But there is plenty of overlap in admissions, and there are plenty of Catholics at Landon, some of whom send thier daughters to StoneRidge. Just as there are plenty of white non-Catholics at Prep, despite what a previous poster claims. Catholics who didn't get the memo aren't disloyal, but rather they are smart to consider all possible options for thier sons, rejecting adult peer pressure, and placing thier son's needs ahead of thier own personal school preferences.

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In terms of producing suburbanite thugs, Landon probably edges out Prep.

But it's close.

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There are two kids coming to Landon next year from Georgetown Prep. There is one hockey player who is JEWISH who is leaving Landon for Prep.

THe only difference I see one school is Catholic and the other is non religious.

The majority of kids who are enrolled in Landon or Prep are kids from Bethesda, Chevy Chase, NW DC, Potomac, Rockville and Darnestown. Landon probably has a larger NOVA contingent as well. Prep has the influx of Asians since it has a boarding component.

At the end of these days, I really dont think these schools are really that different other than the religious aspect.

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We are talking about families who live in Chevy Chase, Bethesda, Rockville and Potomac.

I'm sorry but these schools are very similar in nature despite the PP who continues to provide the DC Catholic history.

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Anonymous wrote:Perhaps Landon and Prep are not alternatives to one another for most families. But there is plenty of overlap in admissions, and there are plenty of Catholics at Landon, some of whom send thier daughters to StoneRidge. Just as there are plenty of white non-Catholics at Prep, despite what a previous poster claims. Catholics who didn't get the memo aren't disloyal, but rather they are smart to consider all possible options for thier sons, rejecting adult peer pressure, and placing thier son's needs ahead of thier own personal school preferences.

In this post, ""Plenty" actually means a handful of outliers.

The schools aren't that much different. There's little reason for Catholics to send their sons to Landon unless they are fleeing the Catholic community.

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Anonymous wrote:There are two kids coming to Landon next year from Georgetown Prep. There is one hockey player who is JEWISH who is leaving Landon for Prep.

THe only difference I see one school is Catholic and the other is non religious.

The majority of kids who are enrolled in Landon or Prep are kids from Bethesda, Chevy Chase, NW DC, Potomac, Rockville and Darnestown. Landon probably has a larger NOVA contingent as well. Prep has the influx of Asians since it has a boarding component.

At the end of these days, I really dont think these schools are really that different other than the religious aspect.

So two of GP's 500 boys are transferring to Landon?

That's .04% of the GP population ... which of course proves nothing.

The Jewish kid at Prep will also be one of one or two.

They are outliers.

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One of Prep's best lacrosse players this year is Jewish.

Don't make it seem, Jewish families are not welcomed at Prep.

You sound like a total loser. "Fleeing the Catholic Community"....

Sorry my life doesnt revolve around my HS like it does for so many Gonzaga and Prep alums. If that is what the DC Catholic Community cares about so much, where someone attended High School... then YES I wouldn't want my son or daughter entrenched in that.

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Let's be honest. There are very few Jewish kids at either school, and the answers why are pretty obvious when you look at the cultures of both schools.

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Anonymous wrote:One of Prep's best lacrosse players this year is Jewish.

Don't make it seem, Jewish families are not welcomed at Prep.

You sound like a total loser. "Fleeing the Catholic Community"....

Sorry my life doesnt revolve around my HS like it does for so many Gonzaga and Prep alums. If that is what the DC Catholic Community cares about so much, where someone attended High School... then YES I wouldn't want my son or daughter entrenched in that.

And you sound like someone who didn't get the memo.

Yes, where you went to high school is a big deal among he local Catholics. That should come as no surprise to anyone with even a modicum of understanding as to how things work here. Grammar schools and the Catholic high schools are where the life-long associations are forged

I'm shocked this comes as a surprise to anyone. You may not like it. You may rail against it. But you can't deny it. And a few odd cases that are different aren't proof it isn't generally true.

The Jewish lacrosse player at Prep is actually an African American boy, who was adopted by a Jewish family. But, he's just one out of 500.

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Anonymous wrote:Let's be honest. There are very few Jewish kids at either school, and the answers why are pretty obvious when you look at the cultures of both schools.

Each class seems to have around 10% of the class who is jewish. There are also a large population of Hindu and Muslim students as well. You really have to get your head out of the sand.
The student body is not what you think.

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Anonymous wrote:Let's be honest. There are very few Jewish kids at either school, and the answers why are pretty obvious when you look at the cultures of both schools.

Each class seems to have around 10% of the class who is jewish. There are also a large population of Hindu and Muslim students as well. You really have to get your head out of the sand.
The student body is not what you think.

So if Landon is 10% Jewish, 20% Catholics as has been suggested and has a large Hindu and Muslim contingent, does that mean the Protestants make up about 50%?

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Anonymous wrote:There are two kids coming to Landon next year from Georgetown Prep. There is one hockey player who is JEWISH who is leaving Landon for Prep.

THe only difference I see one school is Catholic and the other is non religious.

The majority of kids who are enrolled in Landon or Prep are kids from Bethesda, Chevy Chase, NW DC, Potomac, Rockville and Darnestown. Landon probably has a larger NOVA contingent as well. Prep has the influx of Asians since it has a boarding component.

At the end of these days, I really dont think these schools are really that different other than the religious aspect.

So two of GP's 500 boys are transferring to Landon?

That's .04% of the GP population ... which of course proves nothing.

The Jewish kid at Prep will also be one of one or two.

They are outliers.

.4%, not .04%

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