Mothers - How many sex partners would you want your daughter to have prior to marriage?

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Anonymous wrote:The truth is that sex is about emotions. You can't put numbers on that. Also, some people bond sexually on a deeper level than others. As DH says, women can be predatory too. Women and men can be both monogamous and polygamous.

Where feelings are involved -- for a person who gives his/her heart like myself and DH -- it's best to limit partners. We both have numbers in the single digits, and we've been together for nearly two decades now.

We we've both had experience with "players," people who cheat but treat monogamous partners as security blankets. Bad experiences all around.

The greater goal is to teach sexual ethics. There's nothing wrong with being a "slut" if you're sexually responsible, use protection and don't use partners who seek an exclusive relationship. However, it's best to wait until both partners are of legal age so that they get the nuances of birth control and STD protection.

Also, sexual orientation is not only about partners but about one's identity. Trying another orientation that doesn't fit one's psyche is stupid, a "user" move, and emotionally damaging to both partners.

The goal is to teach respect, both of oneself and of one's partners, but sex isn't about numbers, it's about relationships.



Thoughtful post, thanks.

OP here - I think that exploring sexual orientation its healthy actually. If you have questions, answer them.

Can you tell me why you think there is nothing wrong with being a "slut" as you put it?

If sex is about relationships and not numbers as you say - how could someone with 50 partners at age 25 have the relationships to go with the experience?


"Slut" is a sexist stereotype of non-monogamous women that keeps us all down. If a woman has multiple partners responsibly and ethically, I have no problem being friends with her simply because I'm monogamous. We may have different sex/relationship goals, but we have the same other goals: equality politically, socially and economically. Not all promiscuous women want to break up other relationships. They just don't want to be tied down. That experience is valid and I don't feel the need to judge.

As for "exploring" orientations, that's O.K. if a person genuinely has those feelings, but most of us are clearly straight or gay and know it by high school. They don't need to explore because they know who they are. They shouldn't use others just out of curiosity. Not knowing is O.K., too, as long as such explorations involve letting the partner know that s/he's just exploring. Using protection is absolutely paramount in such situations because they often involve high risk sex, both physically and emotionally. Mindlessly giving someone else a disease is crazy and cruel in this day and age, when people can prevent the spread of chronic, potentially life threatening illnesses.

No, volume is not the goal here. Staying true to one's identity and experiencing mutual respect with partners, whatever the number, is the goal.

Ideally, sex is about the expression of love, not the exploitation of another human being.


thanks again for the thoughtful post.

you said you'd be friends with a woman you described but would you want that for your daughter?

would you be concerned if your daughter said at 22 she had had 22 sexual partners? even if she assured you she had taken all precautions and had feelings for the guys?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Never thought about a number. I teach my kids (boys and girls) that casual sex is often more headache than it's worth, and that our family values include being in love and in a monogamous relationship before having sex. I guess I assumed they'd each have two or three serious relationships before marrying.


so like 2-4 partners?


I agree wholeheartedly. I would definitely hate for my daughter or son to have sex in high school - they might be physically ready but the vast majority are not emotionally ready at all. Frankly, I would be thrilled if my children waited until they got married to have sex - I know this is pretty unrealistic these days since people get married later but I truly believe that sex is something special and sacred. I am philosophically opposed to screwing around casually (whether a boy or a girl). I think sex should be done in the context of a monogamous, mature, and emotionally healthy relationship.
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Same amount as my son. This question sounds sexist and judgy. Why do you care OP?
Anonymous
As for myself, I've slept with about 11-12 people, including my husband. I started around 16yo (the norm among my friends) and nowI'm 36yo.

Some of the PPs are saying they'd like their children to sleep with as few as a couple people or have couple serious relationships before marriage. That makes me think about everything I would have missed out on if I stopped after my first two sexual relationships.

I learned some thing about myself or about sex from almost all of them: one was limp in bed but an amazing kisser, one or two were kind of kinky, with one I had amazing physical chemistry with but he turned out kind of nuts so I learned not to fall in love with the physical chemistry, one could spends hours going down on me and thus taught me something about how far someone will go to show me pleasure, one introduced me to amazing anal sex, I learned to love giving blowjobs with another ......
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Practice makes perfect, people!
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I am an Indian mom. I hope my daughter views having sex as a something that requires serious thinking. I have an open dialog with her about the pros and cons about having sexual partners and she knows that I do not hold the view that virginity for the sake of virginity is important.

If I was shown evidence that having tons of sexual partners actually allowed people to be mature and smart about picking up life-partners, I would perhaps change my mind. However, I see that having prior relationships do not make people more mature about their marriages. So, except for physical gratification I do not see the point of pre-marital sex.

In any case, I think school is too young. Maybe early 20s or when they are on a clear career path?
Anonymous
Ah, now I see. OP is the douche in the older men thread bitching about women being sluts. Have fun with your hand.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:As for myself, I've slept with about 11-12 people, including my husband. I started around 16yo (the norm among my friends) and nowI'm 36yo.

Some of the PPs are saying they'd like their children to sleep with as few as a couple people or have couple serious relationships before marriage. That makes me think about everything I would have missed out on if I stopped after my first two sexual relationships.

I learned some thing about myself or about sex from almost all of them: one was limp in bed but an amazing kisser, one or two were kind of kinky, with one I had amazing physical chemistry with but he turned out kind of nuts so I learned not to fall in love with the physical chemistry, one could spends hours going down on me and thus taught me something about how far someone will go to show me pleasure, one introduced me to amazing anal sex, I learned to love giving blowjobs with another ......


11-12 isn't much i dont think.

Anonymous
My best advice is the rule I followed for myself. Don't sleep with anyone who can't support the lifestyle you want for yourself or for an oops baby.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:A range of 2 to 8.


Agree, starting in college, not high school. Same for DS.
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Anonymous wrote:My best advice is the rule I followed for myself. Don't sleep with anyone who can't support the lifestyle you want for yourself or for an oops baby.


Yuck!
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Anonymous wrote:The problem with OP is that he wants to attach value to the number of sexual partners. That is immoral and you should be ashamed of trying to associate the two, not proud.

Don't try to peddle your faults. It's not normal. You seriously need therapy.


and what value do you think i'm trying to ascribe to a number?



Reread your posts. The language you choose is telling.
Anonymous
I don't think 17 is too young to begin exploring relationships.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Never thought about a number. I teach my kids (boys and girls) that casual sex is often more headache than it's worth, and that our family values include being in love and in a monogamous relationship before having sex. I guess I assumed they'd each have two or three serious relationships before marrying.


so like 2-4 partners?


I don't care about a number though. So I can't concretely assign one. I'd be dishonest if I did.
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