DC May have a high walkability score but on bike trails you will get beaten by gangs of youths

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Crazy stuff.

I don't understand why this happens and no one does anything to target the neighborhoods where the youths are coming from.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/bicyclist-attacked-on-dc-trail-by-up-to-15-youths-police-say/2013/06/12/2e9a9d80-d366-11e2-b05f-3ea3f0e7bb5a_story.html?hpid=z3


We could raise taxes and provide free pre-schooling and better education in those neighborhoods.


Really? By target I would have a very different idea: how about putting all these criminals in jail for a looong time so they (and others) can learn a lesson and make the streets safer? Also, let's stop calling them youths as a form to minimize their culpability and blame it on the "system, the oppresion, their lack of opportunities " or whatever other BS.

Also, I found it really sad that the poor guy kept trying to look for a reason for his attack - courtesy of the liberal guilt? Look, there's no reason other than they are thugs. The way it should be is that you could certainly ride your expensive bike, with your $200 shoes, or latest iphone or whatever and EXPECT not to be robbed, attacked or targeted. These are cowards. Why can't the wapo provide a description of them so the population can help identify them? Oh, okaay, I know the answer to that...
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Crazy stuff.

I don't understand why this happens and no one does anything to target the neighborhoods where the youths are coming from.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/bicyclist-attacked-on-dc-trail-by-up-to-15-youths-police-say/2013/06/12/2e9a9d80-d366-11e2-b05f-3ea3f0e7bb5a_story.html?hpid=z3


We could raise taxes and provide free pre-schooling and better education in those neighborhoods.


Really? By target I would have a very different idea: how about putting all these criminals in jail for a looong time so they (and others) can learn a lesson and make the streets safer? Also, let's stop calling them youths as a form to minimize their culpability and blame it on the "system, the oppresion, their lack of opportunities " or whatever other BS.

Also, I found it really sad that the poor guy kept trying to look for a reason for his attack - courtesy of the liberal guilt? Look, there's no reason other than they are thugs. The way it should be is that you could certainly ride your expensive bike, with your $200 shoes, or latest iphone or whatever and EXPECT not to be robbed, attacked or targeted. These are cowards. Why can't the wapo provide a description of them so the population can help identify them? Oh, okaay, I know the answer to that...


The threat of jail time is usually not a deterrent for those who commit crimes.

And I'm guessing they are not being identified because they are minors. Stop playing the race card, asshole.
Anonymous
It was a hate crime. Period. The poor victim is so liberal he can't imagine that he, The Man with The Plan here in DC, could possibly be on the short end of the stick.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Crazy stuff.

I don't understand why this happens and no one does anything to target the neighborhoods where the youths are coming from.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/bicyclist-attacked-on-dc-trail-by-up-to-15-youths-police-say/2013/06/12/2e9a9d80-d366-11e2-b05f-3ea3f0e7bb5a_story.html?hpid=z3


We could raise taxes and provide free pre-schooling and better education in those neighborhoods.


Really? By target I would have a very different idea: how about putting all these criminals in jail for a looong time so they (and others) can learn a lesson and make the streets safer? Also, let's stop calling them youths as a form to minimize their culpability and blame it on the "system, the oppresion, their lack of opportunities " or whatever other BS.

Also, I found it really sad that the poor guy kept trying to look for a reason for his attack - courtesy of the liberal guilt? Look, there's no reason other than they are thugs. The way it should be is that you could certainly ride your expensive bike, with your $200 shoes, or latest iphone or whatever and EXPECT not to be robbed, attacked or targeted. These are cowards. Why can't the wapo provide a description of them so the population can help identify them? Oh, okaay, I know the answer to that...


The threat of jail time is usually not a deterrent for those who commit crimes.

And I'm guessing they are not being identified because they are minors. Stop playing the race card, asshole.


Not threat of jail time, actual jail time. and I didn't say identify them, but DESCRIBE them so their asses can be in jail asap, ASSHOLE.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
You have no idea if I stood up for him or not. And no, unlike OP I am not saying that all of NOVA are hicks. But neither is it the kumbaya utopia of tolerance, love and zero crime that was painted here either. Your arguments are pretty lame.


Did you speak up for him?


Of course I did. And it was the minute I knew I wasn't going to work there much longer. Just one example of how much the school sucked, in so many ways.


How did you speak up for him? Curious what you did. . . that's a hard thing to do.


I'm pretty direct. I let my "colleagues" know that I thought what they were doing was discriminatory and possibly in violation of EEOC laws. I said I felt he was a well-qualified candidate and that he should be strongly considered. But it wasn't my decision, and after consulting with my attorney friends it became clear that proving an EEOC violation would be difficult even if I reported it. It was digusting. The writing was on the wall that I wasn't going to be staying, but they couldn't afford to flat-out fire me and they knew it. Honestly, that guy was better off - he would have encountered a workplace full of small-minded people and been miserable anyway.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I think radical liberal people that live in Maryland and DC are very weird if they think that NOVA is some type of 60s deep south jim crow place. But keep justifying yourself to paying all those high taxes.


No one thinks it is a "60's deep south jim crow place," but to claim it is a utopia of racial, ethnic and religious harmony is a bridge too far in the other direction. That is all that was being said - care to dispute that? I'm sure you do.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think radical liberal people that live in Maryland and DC are very weird if they think that NOVA is some type of 60s deep south jim crow place. But keep justifying yourself to paying all those high taxes.


No one thinks it is a "60's deep south jim crow place," but to claim it is a utopia of racial, ethnic and religious harmony is a bridge too far in the other direction. That is all that was being said - care to dispute that? I'm sure you do.


we like the whites here also unlike up where you're at, That is all that was being said - care to dispute that? I'm sure you do.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Crazy stuff.

I don't understand why this happens and no one does anything to target the neighborhoods where the youths are coming from.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/bicyclist-attacked-on-dc-trail-by-up-to-15-youths-police-say/2013/06/12/2e9a9d80-d366-11e2-b05f-3ea3f0e7bb5a_story.html?hpid=z3


We could raise taxes and provide free pre-schooling and better education in those neighborhoods.


Really? By target I would have a very different idea: how about putting all these criminals in jail for a looong time so they (and others) can learn a lesson and make the streets safer? Also, let's stop calling them youths as a form to minimize their culpability and blame it on the "system, the oppresion, their lack of opportunities " or whatever other BS.

Also, I found it really sad that the poor guy kept trying to look for a reason for his attack - courtesy of the liberal guilt? Look, there's no reason other than they are thugs. The way it should be is that you could certainly ride your expensive bike, with your $200 shoes, or latest iphone or whatever and EXPECT not to be robbed, attacked or targeted. These are cowards. Why can't the wapo provide a description of them so the population can help identify them? Oh, okaay, I know the answer to that...


Or we could continue to identify minor children as minor children, regardless of what their crime is. You may have your issues with treating teenage criminals as adults, but the fact remains that if they are minors, they cannot be identified in the newspaper by name and that's exactly the way it should be.
Anonymous
There's never been a beating in my 'hood. My kids can ride their bikes, and I don't worry. But we are on many acres, quite a distance away from any cities.

But it's time to be scared, folks.

If you saw firsthand what happens in a high school - how low these kids are b/c of neglect, how needy and how angry they are - you'd be very scared. And I'm sure it's enough of a scare to turn many liberals into Mitt-loving conservatives.



Anonymous wrote:Oh, Jesus Christ people. Let it go already. This crap happens everywhere - there is plenty of crime in the suburbs too, and in every county. What ignorant pussy keeps posting this crap?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think radical liberal people that live in Maryland and DC are very weird if they think that NOVA is some type of 60s deep south jim crow place. But keep justifying yourself to paying all those high taxes.


No one thinks it is a "60's deep south jim crow place," but to claim it is a utopia of racial, ethnic and religious harmony is a bridge too far in the other direction. That is all that was being said - care to dispute that? I'm sure you do.


we like the whites here also unlike up where you're at, That is all that was being said - care to dispute that? I'm sure you do.


So you really are an ignorant ass, then. I am white, live in a majority black neighborhood, and have never had a problem. Others have. Just like in NOVA some have a great experience and some people encounter morons. But keep on painting a city=bad, suburbs=awesome picture that is simplistic in its complete stupidity if you must.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:There's never been a beating in my 'hood. My kids can ride their bikes, and I don't worry. But we are on many acres, quite a distance away from any cities.

But it's time to be scared, folks.

If you saw firsthand what happens in a high school - how low these kids are b/c of neglect, how needy and how angry they are - you'd be very scared. And I'm sure it's enough of a scare to turn many liberals into Mitt-loving conservatives.



Anonymous wrote:Oh, Jesus Christ people. Let it go already. This crap happens everywhere - there is plenty of crime in the suburbs too, and in every county. What ignorant pussy keeps posting this crap?


You admit that you live far from the city yet claim to be an expert. I call bullshit.
Anonymous
So if a minor beat the shit out of your kid or your spouse, you'd still be spouting off the same old bullshit?

I highly doubt it.

So many of you can be compassionate, eh?
. . . when it's not you or your family members or your friends
such fucking hypocrisy

I am a Lib and I agree with the first PP 110%.

Anonymous wrote:

Also, I found it really sad that the poor guy kept trying to look for a reason for his attack - courtesy of the liberal guilt? Look, there's no reason other than they are thugs. The way it should be is that you could certainly ride your expensive bike, with your $200 shoes, or latest iphone or whatever and EXPECT not to be robbed, attacked or targeted. These are cowards. Why can't the wapo provide a description of them so the population can help identify them? Oh, okaay, I know the answer to that...


Or we could continue to identify minor children as minor children, regardless of what their crime is. You may have your issues with treating teenage criminals as adults, but the fact remains that if they are minors, they cannot be identified in the newspaper by name and that's exactly the way it should be.
Anonymous
I teach.

How am I bullshitting you?

Teachers commute, too, asshole.



Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There's never been a beating in my 'hood. My kids can ride their bikes, and I don't worry. But we are on many acres, quite a distance away from any cities.

But it's time to be scared, folks.

If you saw firsthand what happens in a high school - how low these kids are b/c of neglect, how needy and how angry they are - you'd be very scared. And I'm sure it's enough of a scare to turn many liberals into Mitt-loving conservatives.



Anonymous wrote:Oh, Jesus Christ people. Let it go already. This crap happens everywhere - there is plenty of crime in the suburbs too, and in every county. What ignorant pussy keeps posting this crap?


You admit that you live far from the city yet claim to be an expert. I call bullshit.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:So if a minor beat the shit out of your kid or your spouse, you'd still be spouting off the same old bullshit?

I highly doubt it.

So many of you can be compassionate, eh?
. . . when it's not you or your family members or your friends
such fucking hypocrisy

I am a Lib and I agree with the first PP 110%.

Anonymous wrote:

Also, I found it really sad that the poor guy kept trying to look for a reason for his attack - courtesy of the liberal guilt? Look, there's no reason other than they are thugs. The way it should be is that you could certainly ride your expensive bike, with your $200 shoes, or latest iphone or whatever and EXPECT not to be robbed, attacked or targeted. These are cowards. Why can't the wapo provide a description of them so the population can help identify them? Oh, okaay, I know the answer to that...


Or we could continue to identify minor children as minor children, regardless of what their crime is. You may have your issues with treating teenage criminals as adults, but the fact remains that if they are minors, they cannot be identified in the newspaper by name and that's exactly the way it should be.


Actually, yes. If a minor beat up a family member or friends (which has happened), I would be perfectly fine correctly identifying that person as a youth and not printing their name or identifying details in a newspaper. Because those are not particularly effective ways of dealing with the problem at hand.

I feel for the victim of this crime. It's hard to understand senseless violence, no matter where you come from or what kind of guilt you have. It wouldn't make me feel better to know I'd been targeted for my race. It would be logical that someone who is a victim of crime in a low income neighborhood would wonder why his attackers did not take his expensive gear or the money in his pocket. Most attackers would, so the absence of theft is confusing. Everyone wants to feel like there's a reason when something horrible occurs. Sometimes there isn't one. The search for that reason doesn't mean it's liberal guilt and the lack of printing identifying details doesn't mean that the Post is engaging in some kind of racial conspiracy.
Anonymous
Now that the military is withdrawing from overseas we can now deploy them in the warzone known as gentrifying dc.
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