DC May have a high walkability score but on bike trails you will get beaten by gangs of youths

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Anonymous wrote:why you so mad...

If OP stopped being an idiot, I'd stop presenting actual facts to dispute him/her.

Why is op an idiot. I don't get how what he/she posted is idiotic.

The title of the thread is really explanation enough.

So no one got beaten by youths on a trail? I don't get your logic.

Are you slow or just willfully dense? OP is basically intimating with his/her title that people claim DC is great but hey! look! You can get beaten on a trail! As if this happens every day, which it doesn't. Whatever. All you pearl clutchers just hide in your suburban McMansions with guns trying not to pee your pants.

Well the police have noted every other day reoccurring incidents on that trail. I don't think the local W&O trail has that issue so there is some type of problem in DC.

So is it your assertion, as it obviously is OP's, that there is some connection between a problem with crime on one particular trail and the "walkability" of the entire city? Please explain how the two things are related. This idiotic logic - conflating one incident or one area with the relative safety of an ENTIRE city - is what I have a problem with. It's just good-old fashioned stupidity and I don't like stupid.

Seems to be one of many examples of great walk ability in DC with the ability to walk right into a dangerous situation.

Why do you care? Stay in McLean if you are happy there. Again, what. the. fuck. is. your. point? I really don't get it. You think the city is dangerous. Is that it? Just clarify so we can all move on.

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My friend tried to have the neighbor's kid arrested by DC Police for throwing rocks at his car window, this was the 2nd time. He told the police is was the neighbor's kid and this was the 2nd time. The police didn't bother going over there and arresting the kid. No joke.

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Anonymous wrote:This would never happen in vienna or mclean, the citizens would alert the police to a gang of youths running on to the metro train.

So stay in Vienna and McLean! We are totally fine with you never coming into the District and living your life out in Vienna.

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You can keep your "gentrification". My life is worth more than that.

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That trail is problematic. There are people who are literally being squeezed out of neighborhoods they have lived in for years because of gentrification. There are youth who are at loose ends, who have not been raised correctly for MANY reasons, who are filled with anger, and taking it out on whoever they see. This is a difficult thing, there are no simple answers. Police DO urge folks not to use the trail during certain times, and to ride in groups, etc. They've admitted they can't keep it safe in certain neighborhoods. The neighborhoods where they cannot keep it safe are among the most heavily gentrifying neighborhoods around.

I don't think these small adults should be coddled in any way. Our juvenile justice system is woefully broken and these children go almost unpunished for even very severe crimes, such as this. So I think we need to get tougher here, with meaningful reform programs in the jail, meaningful reforms of jails themselves that turn them from just holding pens (temporary) where criminals get hardened further and places where the ones who can be saved can turn their lives around and get skills and a way out of the only way of life they know.

Additionally, we DO need to work to strengthen these communities. We absolutely have NOT been funding preschool for these kids universally. DC has some free preschool but not all kids get into good programs. Would you want to send YOUR 3 year old to an east of the river school for preschool? Didn't think so. Additionally, welfare to work programs have forced mothers to get jobs while they have young kids, without providing any sort of childcare for them. So these children are minded by older siblings or grandparents at best, left on their own at worse. It's hard for me to be a good parent all the time, and I have lots of resources. Now imagine you have no money to put food on the table and see how much time you devote to "free play" with your chidlren at night to bond with them, etc.

I'm not giving people a total hall pass. Some folks are able to lift themselves out of poverty in remarkable ways. But for others, it is a relentless, vicious cycle. You better believe I feel torn when i hear about things like this. It's pretty darn clear that this 50 year old was targeted for his race. That is horrible. At the same time, we let vengeance carry the day, and it carries over to how we feel about the kids growing up. These kids get a chip on their shoulder at age 4 and for good reason in many cases. So no, absolutely positive does NOT excuse it, but shouldn't we try to save the next generation from this kind of listless unhappy life? And save ourselves, as greater society, from the effects of it?

Too many people are living in such squalor. It is impossible to imagine good outcomes for most of them, and that is beyond tragic.

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Anonymous wrote:This would never happen in vienna or mclean, the citizens would alert the police to a gang of youths running on to the metro train.

Sure that is why the woman was stabbed in the middle of the day on the 4 Mile Run trail. Keep dreaming that the suburbs are any better.

Ding ding! Plus, what exactly would the police do? Last I checked, simply running on to a metro train is not a crime. There are rules in law enforcement, you know? I realize you live in crazy-land and probably get off on your vigilante justice fantasies. The rest of us live in a democracy that employs laws and common sense.

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DC police need to arrest more youth I think there is a tendency to say NO NO not my sweet kid . Part of the major issue with DC crime is the juveniles and they need to come down hard on them like gitmo.

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You can keep your "gentrification". My life is worth more than that.

Good for you. We'll all be happier. You hate scary black people - we get it. Shut up already!

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Ii VA we can carry guns so the criminal don't do that shit as often

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PP here. There is plenty of crime in the suburbs BTW. Plenty of youths going door to door soliciting/casing/breaking in. And no one doing a damn thing about it. Your neighbor will notice what you had for dinner, but never in a million years would they notice anything actually useful.

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Anonymous wrote:Ii VA we can carry guns so the criminal don't do that shit as often

Again, good for you. You're happy in VA, great. Stay there. Those of us who choose to live in DC will stay here. Everybody wins. You will still be ignorant.

Just informing the public of the truth you don't need to get all mad about it yo

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Anonymous wrote:Ii VA we can carry guns so the criminal don't do that shit as often

Again, good for you. You're happy in VA, great. Stay there. Those of us who choose to live in DC will stay here. Everybody wins. You will still be ignorant.

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Anonymous wrote:Ii VA we can carry guns so the criminal don't do that shit as often

Again, good for you. You're happy in VA, great. Stay there. Those of us who choose to live in DC will stay here. Everybody wins. You will still be ignorant.

Many people live in a fantasy land and don't know what the streets of DC are like. Not good.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh, Jesus Christ people. Let it go already. This crap happens everywhere - there is plenty of crime in the suburbs too, and in every county. What ignorant pussy keeps posting this crap?

So there are bike trails in the suburbs that police urge you to avoid because of roving bands of hooligans?

Well, there have been attacks on the 4 Mile Run trail out in the burbs!

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Anonymous wrote:That trail is problematic. There are people who are literally being squeezed out of neighborhoods they have lived in for years because of gentrification. There are youth who are at loose ends, who have not been raised correctly for MANY reasons, who are filled with anger, and taking it out on whoever they see. This is a difficult thing, there are no simple answers. Police DO urge folks not to use the trail during certain times, and to ride in groups, etc. They've admitted they can't keep it safe in certain neighborhoods. The neighborhoods where they cannot keep it safe are among the most heavily gentrifying neighborhoods around.

I don't think these small adults should be coddled in any way. Our juvenile justice system is woefully broken and these children go almost unpunished for even very severe crimes, such as this. So I think we need to get tougher here, with meaningful reform programs in the jail, meaningful reforms of jails themselves that turn them from just holding pens (temporary) where criminals get hardened further and places where the ones who can be saved can turn their lives around and get skills and a way out of the only way of life they know.

Additionally, we DO need to work to strengthen these communities. We absolutely have NOT been funding preschool for these kids universally. DC has some free preschool but not all kids get into good programs. Would you want to send YOUR 3 year old to an east of the river school for preschool? Didn't think so. Additionally, welfare to work programs have forced mothers to get jobs while they have young kids, without providing any sort of childcare for them. So these children are minded by older siblings or grandparents at best, left on their own at worse. It's hard for me to be a good parent all the time, and I have lots of resources. Now imagine you have no money to put food on the table and see how much time you devote to "free play" with your chidlren at night to bond with them, etc.

I'm not giving people a total hall pass. Some folks are able to lift themselves out of poverty in remarkable ways. But for others, it is a relentless, vicious cycle. You better believe I feel torn when i hear about things like this. It's pretty darn clear that this 50 year old was targeted for his race. That is horrible. At the same time, we let vengeance carry the day, and it carries over to how we feel about the kids growing up. These kids get a chip on their shoulder at age 4 and for good reason in many cases. So no, absolutely positive does NOT excuse it, but shouldn't we try to save the next generation from this kind of listless unhappy life? And save ourselves, as greater society, from the effects of it?

Too many people are living in such squalor. It is impossible to imagine good outcomes for most of them, and that is beyond tragic.

So it was a hate crime against a white guy? Is that possible (By definition)? Wow I can't believe that would happen I thought we were past this. In NOVA we are very diverse and have come together against hate. This is terrible and sick, not just bands of youth roaming the trails but they are targeting certain people?