Mitt Picks Ryan, I Guess

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I do think this will shift of the focus of the remaining campaign off of Obama's handling of the economy and onto a referendum, if you will, of the Ryan budget. particularly draconian cuts to Medicare. Not going to go down well with the old people in Florida is my guess.

As someone else pointed out, it really isn't the current seniors who are in the most jeopardy. Even if Romney-Ryan get in and can enact their changes, the changes to SS and Medicare will take at least a decade before benefits changes significantly for current recipients. However, the ones who are going to be affected the most will be the soon-to-be-retired or the newly retired...who are they? BABY-BOOMERS. So you have the single largest demographic group that is heading into their retirement, looking at augmenting their somewhat depleted 401Ks and other pension plans with SS benefits, and they are now looking at a candidate that is likely to strip their benefits. I think Romney-Ryan is going to bomb with the Boomers. And I think that only the staunchest, most conservative Boomers are going to vote for this ticket. Wish so many Boomers likely to be living into their 80's and 90's and needing at least 20-40 years of SSN and Medicare, I don't think they'll want to vote for possibly stripping their retirement benefits.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's hilarious that democrats are thrilled about the Ryan pick because now they think the campaign will be all about the Ryan Plan. However, no one seems to have noticed that he, at least, has a plan, as opposed to Obama. Obama has nothing but unfunded Obamacare that the majority of Americans hate (as recent polls show) and an economy that completely is in the toilet and no Obama Plan for getting it out of there. Ryan will be able clearly articluate his vision and when there's no other plan to compare it to or better altenative on the table, they will recognize that reasonable reforms are essential to getting the economy back on track.

Ryan has a plan, but Romney is distancing himself from it. Romney doesn't have a plan. So, do you have a "Plan B".

No, they oppose Plan B on religious grounds.

WTF is the point in picking Ryan is they aren't going with his plan? Do they think his steely blue eyes will get them votes?

and they won

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I do think this will shift of the focus of the remaining campaign off of Obama's handling of the economy and onto a referendum, if you will, of the Ryan budget. particularly draconian cuts to Medicare. Not going to go down well with the old people in Florida is my guess.

As someone else pointed out, it really isn't the current seniors who are in the most jeopardy. Even if Romney-Ryan get in and can enact their changes, the changes to SS and Medicare will take at least a decade before benefits changes significantly for current recipients. However, the ones who are going to be affected the most will be the soon-to-be-retired or the newly retired...who are they? BABY-BOOMERS. So you have the single largest demographic group that is heading into their retirement, looking at augmenting their somewhat depleted 401Ks and other pension plans with SS benefits, and they are now looking at a candidate that is likely to strip their benefits. I think Romney-Ryan is going to bomb with the Boomers. And I think that only the staunchest, most conservative Boomers are going to vote for this ticket. Wish so many Boomers likely to be living into their 80's and 90's and needing at least 20-40 years of SSN and Medicare, I don't think they'll want to vote for possibly stripping their retirement benefits.

Boomers destroyed america and created the pipe dream called retirement. I wouldn't be surprised if they would cut out the throats of their grand children to support there selfish entailment and self indulgent attitudes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I do think this will shift of the focus of the remaining campaign off of Obama's handling of the economy and onto a referendum, if you will, of the Ryan budget. particularly draconian cuts to Medicare. Not going to go down well with the old people in Florida is my guess.

As someone else pointed out, it really isn't the current seniors who are in the most jeopardy. Even if Romney-Ryan get in and can enact their changes, the changes to SS and Medicare will take at least a decade before benefits changes significantly for current recipients. However, the ones who are going to be affected the most will be the soon-to-be-retired or the newly retired...who are they? BABY-BOOMERS. So you have the single largest demographic group that is heading into their retirement, looking at augmenting their somewhat depleted 401Ks and other pension plans with SS benefits, and they are now looking at a candidate that is likely to strip their benefits. I think Romney-Ryan is going to bomb with the Boomers. And I think that only the staunchest, most conservative Boomers are going to vote for this ticket. Wish so many Boomers likely to be living into their 80's and 90's and needing at least 20-40 years of SSN and Medicare, I don't think they'll want to vote for possibly stripping their retirement benefits.

Boomers destroyed america and created the pipe dream called retirement. I wouldn't be surprised if they would cut out the throats of their grand children to support there selfish entailment and self indulgent attitudes.

Retirement was created in the 1930', and that predates the boomers because they weren't old enough to vote. We have been over this before. Are you impervious to facts or just like saying things you know are not true?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I do think this will shift of the focus of the remaining campaign off of Obama's handling of the economy and onto a referendum, if you will, of the Ryan budget. particularly draconian cuts to Medicare. Not going to go down well with the old people in Florida is my guess.

As someone else pointed out, it really isn't the current seniors who are in the most jeopardy. Even if Romney-Ryan get in and can enact their changes, the changes to SS and Medicare will take at least a decade before benefits changes significantly for current recipients. However, the ones who are going to be affected the most will be the soon-to-be-retired or the newly retired...who are they? BABY-BOOMERS. So you have the single largest demographic group that is heading into their retirement, looking at augmenting their somewhat depleted 401Ks and other pension plans with SS benefits, and they are now looking at a candidate that is likely to strip their benefits. I think Romney-Ryan is going to bomb with the Boomers. And I think that only the staunchest, most conservative Boomers are going to vote for this ticket. Wish so many Boomers likely to be living into their 80's and 90's and needing at least 20-40 years of SSN and Medicare, I don't think they'll want to vote for possibly stripping their retirement benefits.

Boomers destroyed america and created the pipe dream called retirement. I wouldn't be surprised if they would cut out the throats of their grand children to support there selfish entailment and self indulgent attitudes.

Another one of those who don't let facts get in the way of a good argument. CSRS (the federal Civil Service Retirement Service plan) was created in 1920. Social Security was created in 1935 and Medicaid in 1965. The Boomers (no, I am not one of them) were born from 1950 to 1964. They didn't create retirement. The concept of retirement and pension plans became popular in WWII, again, before the Boomers time--signfiicantly. While the Boomers may have found ways to maximize retirement benefits, retirement was already around before they were born.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's hilarious that democrats are thrilled about the Ryan pick because now they think the campaign will be all about the Ryan Plan. However, no one seems to have noticed that he, at least, has a plan, as opposed to Obama. Obama has nothing but unfunded Obamacare that the majority of Americans hate (as recent polls show) and an economy that completely is in the toilet and no Obama Plan for getting it out of there. Ryan will be able clearly articluate his vision and when there's no other plan to compare it to or better altenative on the table, they will recognize that reasonable reforms are essential to getting the economy back on track.

Ryan has a plan, but Romney is distancing himself from it. Romney doesn't have a plan. So, do you have a "Plan B".

No, they oppose Plan B on religious grounds.

WTF is the point in picking Ryan is they aren't going with his plan? Do they think his steely blue eyes will get them votes?

and they won

One Term = No Love

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't know how Mitt could win. Out of touch. He was born with a silver spoon in his mouth. Of course, Dubya was the same way, inarticulate and didn't seem very intelligent. I guess anything is possible in America.

Are you a fan of the Kennedy family politicians? Do you include them in these types of statements? Re "Dubya," he graduated from Yale, one of the exalted Ivys. Or do you think Yale accepts poorly qualified students and then just hands out degrees to those who "don't seem very intelligent?"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't know how Mitt could win. Out of touch. He was born with a silver spoon in his mouth. Of course, Dubya was the same way, inarticulate and didn't seem very intelligent. I guess anything is possible in America.

Are you a fan of the Kennedy family politicians? Do you include them in these types of statements? Re "Dubya," he graduated from Yale, one of the exalted Ivys. Or do you think Yale accepts poorly qualified students and then just hands out degrees to those who "don't seem very intelligent?"

I think Yale has affirmative action for wealthy donors who have mediocre kids. I don't think Dubya would have made it into Yale had he gone to BCC and his dad worked for the Federal Government. Think about how many kids from TJ, Blair or other magnets don't get into Yale, then consider that Debya did.

[Anonymous]

I guess his dad did work for the Federal Government, but I meant was career civil service.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's hilarious that democrats are thrilled about the Ryan pick because now they think the campaign will be all about the Ryan Plan. However, no one seems to have noticed that he, at least, has a plan, as opposed to Obama. Obama has nothing but unfunded Obamacare that the majority of Americans hate (as recent polls show) and an economy that completely is in the toilet and no Obama Plan for getting it out of there. Ryan will be able clearly articluate his vision and when there's no other plan to compare it to or better altenative on the table, they will recognize that reasonable reforms are essential to getting the economy back on track.

Ryan has a plan, but Romney is distancing himself from it. Romney doesn't have a plan. So, do you have a "Plan B".

No, they oppose Plan B on religious grounds.

WTF is the point in picking Ryan is they aren't going with his plan? Do they think his steely blue eyes will get them votes?

and they won

One Term = No Love

Hopefully Like obama or else america is finished

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's hilarious that democrats are thrilled about the Ryan pick because now they think the campaign will be all about the Ryan Plan. However, no one seems to have noticed that he, at least, has a plan, as opposed to Obama. Obama has nothing but unfunded Obamacare that the majority of Americans hate (as recent polls show) and an economy that completely is in the toilet and no Obama Plan for getting it out of there. Ryan will be able clearly articluate his vision and when there's no other plan to compare it to or better altenative on the table, they will recognize that reasonable reforms are essential to getting the economy back on track.

Ryan has a plan, but Romney is distancing himself from it. Romney doesn't have a plan. So, do you have a "Plan B".

No, they oppose Plan B on religious grounds.

WTF is the point in picking Ryan is they aren't going with his plan? Do they think his steely blue eyes will get them votes?

and they won

One Term = No Love

Hopefully Like obama or else america is finished

Get used to disappointment. I hear you can get dual citizenship in Mexico.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't know how Mitt could win. Out of touch. He was born with a silver spoon in his mouth. Of course, Dubya was the same way, inarticulate and didn't seem very intelligent. I guess anything is possible in America.

Are you a fan of the Kennedy family politicians? Do you include them in these types of statements? Re "Dubya," he graduated from Yale, one of the exalted Ivys. Or do you think Yale accepts poorly qualified students and then just hands out degrees to those who "don't seem very intelligent?"

I think that there is no rule that says I have to like every graduate of an Ivy League school. And yes, Yale admits a lot of legacies. So no, a degree from Yale does not guarantee intelligence, especially when your grades look like this:

http://2004.georgewbush.org/bios/yale-transcript.asp

Ouch!!!

[Anonymous]

If you are a loser and sucking off the government teat you will not want leaders that promote working hard, earning a living and reaping the rewards of success. Our country was built on capitalism not socialism. When 50% of the country pays no income tax and they are asked to put in a minuscule amount why would anyone have a problem with that? Why make it comfortable to be poor and push people to better themselves? If you raise taxes on the job creators the lower income earners will have no jobs.

Government teat = Ryan welfare buck, living off social security
Paying no taxes, minuscule amount = Romney
Wow I see your point. I guess you will be voting for Obama. Unless you don't belief what you state.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't know how Mitt could win. Out of touch. He was born with a silver spoon in his mouth. Of course, Dubya was the same way, inarticulate and didn't seem very intelligent. I guess anything is possible in America.

Are you a fan of the Kennedy family politicians? Do you include them in these types of statements? Re "Dubya," he graduated from Yale, one of the exalted Ivys. Or do you think Yale accepts poorly qualified students and then just hands out degrees to those who "don't seem very intelligent?"

I think that there is no rule that says I have to like every graduate of an Ivy League school. And yes, Yale admits a lot of legacies. So no, a degree from Yale does not guarantee intelligence, especially when your grades look like this:

http://2004.georgewbush.org/bios/yale-transcript.asp

Ouch!!!

I get it; it's just that many posters on this forum act as if getting into/graduating from an Ivy indicates a high level of intelligence. Not necessarily, although by no means do I think George Bush is stupid. I bet that if he were tested, his nonverbal/math skills are higher than verbal. Not an attorney type.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't know how Mitt could win. Out of touch. He was born with a silver spoon in his mouth. Of course, Dubya was the same way, inarticulate and didn't seem very intelligent. I guess anything is possible in America.

Are you a fan of the Kennedy family politicians? Do you include them in these types of statements? Re "Dubya," he graduated from Yale, one of the exalted Ivys. Or do you think Yale accepts poorly qualified students and then just hands out degrees to those who "don't seem very intelligent?"

I think that there is no rule that says I have to like every graduate of an Ivy League school. And yes, Yale admits a lot of legacies. So no, a degree from Yale does not guarantee intelligence, especially when your grades look like this:

http://2004.georgewbush.org/bios/yale-transcript.asp

Ouch!!!

Will you please post President Obama's transcript for comparison? Thanks!