Bad Parenting 101- "Why I Rejected Plan B After my DIsabled Dughter was Raped"

[Anonymous]

"Death Penalty Retains Support, Even with Pro-Life Catholics, Despite Flaws"
http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics/2011/09/23/140748680/death-penalty-retains-support-even-with-pro-life-catholics-despite-flaws

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What I find pretty disgusting is that she wrote about this extremely personal, private, and awful event regarding her daughter for all the world to see and judge. Really awful.

Yeah, wow. It would be one thing if she wrote about her OWN rape and keeping the baby, but her disabled daughter? She makes a choice for someone incapable of choosing and then waves it around like a political banner. And the thing that was going to make her "nearly faint" upon going to see her daughter was that the women's center was named after Gloria Steinem?

Lady, for real? I don't disagree with her right to choose (though I don't believe she chose wisely) but I am really turned off by the tone and context.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"Death Penalty Retains Support, Even with Pro-Life Catholics, Despite Flaws"
http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics/2011/09/23/140748680/death-penalty-retains-support-even-with-pro-life-catholics-despite-flaws

I'm the PP who knows a number of people who profess to be both pro-life and anti-death-penalty...maybe it's because they are not Republican southerners? Or California Catholics?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Plan B should be available in vending machines on the street (preferably free).

Any woman who doesn't want to get or be pregnant for any reason should have every option available to her to end the pregnancy at will.

I am pro-choice, but I find responses such as yours, intimating that abortion is no big deal, just as horrifying as those from the pro-lifers who say abortion should never be allowed under any circumstances. Either extreme shows a real lack of thoughtfulness and humanity.

[Anonymous]

Oh wow: found this in one of the comments on Femininiste:

I did some digging. it was quite easy to find out who the family is.
The young woman in question has a facebook page. on the page she complains that her “boyfriend is in jail”. which gives a whole new angle to the story, doesn’t it? this may have been the “older boyfriend” variety of statutory (romeo/juliet) rape and parents are just punishing her , while making a great case for their pro-life virtue.
You’ll note on the mother’s blog that she complains incessantly about how hard this child is to deal with, how glad she is when the child is away at juvie, how much she dreads her coming home.
I think she’d be quite happy for social services to permanently take her on. and it would be so much easier to make that case if daughter is pregnant

The young woman has a facebook page? Other posts (from the mother / author) about her daughter talks about how the daughter stole the family car and totalled it and went to juvenile delinquency center and the mother has been spending tons of time trying to have her daughter committed. She says "limited cognitive abilities." What the fuck? This sounds like a crazy, crazy lie and a horrible excuse for a person. Wow.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oh wow: found this in one of the comments on Femininiste:

I did some digging. it was quite easy to find out who the family is.
The young woman in question has a facebook page. on the page she complains that her “boyfriend is in jail”. which gives a whole new angle to the story, doesn’t it? this may have been the “older boyfriend” variety of statutory (romeo/juliet) rape and parents are just punishing her , while making a great case for their pro-life virtue.
You’ll note on the mother’s blog that she complains incessantly about how hard this child is to deal with, how glad she is when the child is away at juvie, how much she dreads her coming home.
I think she’d be quite happy for social services to permanently take her on. and it would be so much easier to make that case if daughter is pregnant

The young woman has a facebook page? Other posts (from the mother / author) about her daughter talks about how the daughter stole the family car and totalled it and went to juvenile delinquency center and the mother has been spending tons of time trying to have her daughter committed. She says "limited cognitive abilities." What the fuck? This sounds like a crazy, crazy lie and a horrible excuse for a person. Wow.

The mother has several children, all adopted, all with special needs.

Sometimes the heartlessness on here scares me.

I suppose it is possible she made up the story, but since she is a real person with real children (how do you know her kids' names? How do you know which child was involved?), it would be a quick and terrible lie.

I saw the comments on her blog. Reading them made me believe evil is personal. My God, I am so grateful the Internet was not all-powerful when I was sexually assaulted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow. Disabled people have kids all the time. I'm not saying it's right in these circumstances, but it's not a reason not to have children.

Oh, didn't you get the memo? All the pro-choicers abort their unborn disabled babies. They don't believe that disabled people should be born, let alone reproduce.

I have to assume you are being ironic, since I have a disabled child and am pro-choice, and know lots of pro-choice moms with disabled kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh wow: found this in one of the comments on Femininiste:

I did some digging. it was quite easy to find out who the family is.
The young woman in question has a facebook page. on the page she complains that her “boyfriend is in jail”. which gives a whole new angle to the story, doesn’t it? this may have been the “older boyfriend” variety of statutory (romeo/juliet) rape and parents are just punishing her , while making a great case for their pro-life virtue.
You’ll note on the mother’s blog that she complains incessantly about how hard this child is to deal with, how glad she is when the child is away at juvie, how much she dreads her coming home.
I think she’d be quite happy for social services to permanently take her on. and it would be so much easier to make that case if daughter is pregnant

The young woman has a facebook page? Other posts (from the mother / author) about her daughter talks about how the daughter stole the family car and totalled it and went to juvenile delinquency center and the mother has been spending tons of time trying to have her daughter committed. She says "limited cognitive abilities." What the fuck? This sounds like a crazy, crazy lie and a horrible excuse for a person. Wow.

The mother has several children, all adopted, all with special needs.

Sometimes the heartlessness on here scares me.

I suppose it is possible she made up the story, but since she is a real person with real children (how do you know her kids' names? How do you know which child was involved?), it would be a quick and terrible lie.

I saw the comments on her blog. Reading them made me believe evil is personal. My God, I am so grateful the Internet was not all-powerful when I was sexually assaulted.

OKay so you read this story and you think *I* am the evil one? Oh my gosh!

This young girl's own mother laments her difficulties with her "difficult" mentally ill daughter for ALLLLL the internet to see, specifically complaining that the authorities won't keep her committed and it's so much trouble to have her at home, for weeks, then "loses sight" of the girl for two days, and then when the girl has been found to have been brutally raped (for an extended period of time according to mom) what makes her want to pass out is the name of the conference center, the mother withholds important medication for her daughter and allows for the possibility that the brutal rape may result in pregnancy and a child (who will be trapped in this insane woman's house unless the authorities get involved, which I am having a hard time understanding how they would NOT) and you think I AM THE EVIL ONE? It is so scary to me that there are people like this woman, and people like you to defend her, out there in this world.

I'm not talking about the mom's decision on behalf of her daughter, per se. Let's just pretend I think it's totally true and went down exactly as she says. Even so, how the hell does this mother, in good conscience, BLOG ABOUT HER DAUGHTERS RAPE as soon as she gets home from the clinic, instead of taking her daughter to the hospital, which the mom says was recommended by the clinic based on the extent of her injuries? And then, days later, she is writing carefree blogs about getting manicures?!?!

if you think the mother did the right thing, why don't you provide us with your mother's name along with other identifying details that will help us to determine who you are? Because that is exactly what the mother did in this instance. She whored out her daughter's rape story to advance her political and religious ideology and to pat herself on the back for "doing the right thing." Do you have a relationship with Jesus? And if so, do you really, really think this is what He would want?

Fine, that mother has the right to make certain decisions for her child (IF this story is true, and IF the child is as severely disabled as the mother seems to suggest, which clearly conflicts with pretty readily available information that suggests the girl is troubled, yes, and maybe has mental illness but is far from having a "limited cognitive abilities" which suggest a much more severe condition!

It is simply stunning to me that someone like this woman was ever allowed to adopt. God, how scary. Honestly she is an argument FOR abortion; on the one hand, you prevent a child from developing from a fetus. On the other hand, you could adopt, but then consider the alternative could be your offspring, once alive, would be brought up in an abusive home with parents who brag about their abusive and scary parenting on the internet, and practically live-blog your violent rape. How do people like this pass adoption screening? I thought it was hard to adopt? I thought there were background and mental health checks for prospective adoptive parents?

This blog has really, really upset me. This poor young girl. My heart goes out to her and I hope she escapes this abusive situation and this abusive mother as soon as possible. I'm praying that the authorities get involved.

Oh, and by the way? I am pro-life!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oh wow: found this in one of the comments on Femininiste:

I did some digging. . .

There is nothing feminist about looking up a rape victim, particularly a child or someone with a disability, violating her privacy, or downplaying her rape as "romeo/juliet".

I think what the mother did here was awful. She violated her daughter's privacy and her right to make her own decision about her own body. But the person who wrote this comment isn't much better.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh wow: found this in one of the comments on Femininiste:

I did some digging. . .

There is nothing feminist about looking up a rape victim, particularly a child or someone with a disability, violating her privacy, or downplaying her rape as "romeo/juliet".

I think what the mother did here was awful. She violated her daughter's privacy and her right to make her own decision about her own body. But the person who wrote this comment isn't much better.

Bingo. Just as much of an agenda as the mom. Both disgusting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

After the police called me to tell me she’d been found, the officer asked me to meet him at the clinic and be reunited with my daughter. When I arrived, I was led to the Gloria Steinem Conference Room. I’m not kidding; that alone almost made me pass out.

Your daughter had been missing for 48 hours and brutally raped, and the name of the conference room at the women's shelter where people were taking care of your daughter is what almost made you pass out?

I'm thinking - hoping? - along with this guy - http://www.junkland.net/2012/02/pro-lifer-creates-plan-b-daughter-rape.html - that this is a hoax.

Please let this be a hoax.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh wow: found this in one of the comments on Femininiste:

I did some digging. it was quite easy to find out who the family is.
The young woman in question has a facebook page. on the page she complains that her “boyfriend is in jail”. which gives a whole new angle to the story, doesn’t it? this may have been the “older boyfriend” variety of statutory (romeo/juliet) rape and parents are just punishing her , while making a great case for their pro-life virtue.
You’ll note on the mother’s blog that she complains incessantly about how hard this child is to deal with, how glad she is when the child is away at juvie, how much she dreads her coming home.
I think she’d be quite happy for social services to permanently take her on. and it would be so much easier to make that case if daughter is pregnant

The young woman has a facebook page? Other posts (from the mother / author) about her daughter talks about how the daughter stole the family car and totalled it and went to juvenile delinquency center and the mother has been spending tons of time trying to have her daughter committed. She says "limited cognitive abilities." What the fuck? This sounds like a crazy, crazy lie and a horrible excuse for a person. Wow.

The mother has several children, all adopted, all with special needs.

Sometimes the heartlessness on here scares me.

I suppose it is possible she made up the story, but since she is a real person with real children (how do you know her kids' names? How do you know which child was involved?), it would be a quick and terrible lie.

I saw the comments on her blog. Reading them made me believe evil is personal. My God, I am so grateful the Internet was not all-powerful when I was sexually assaulted.

OKay so you read this story and you think *I* am the evil one? Oh my gosh!

This young girl's own mother laments her difficulties with her "difficult" mentally ill daughter for ALLLLL the internet to see, specifically complaining that the authorities won't keep her committed and it's so much trouble to have her at home, for weeks, then "loses sight" of the girl for two days, and then when the girl has been found to have been brutally raped (for an extended period of time according to mom) what makes her want to pass out is the name of the conference center, the mother withholds important medication for her daughter and allows for the possibility that the brutal rape may result in pregnancy and a child (who will be trapped in this insane woman's house unless the authorities get involved, which I am having a hard time understanding how they would NOT) and you think I AM THE EVIL ONE? It is so scary to me that there are people like this woman, and people like you to defend her, out there in this world.

I'm not talking about the mom's decision on behalf of her daughter, per se. Let's just pretend I think it's totally true and went down exactly as she says. Even so, how the hell does this mother, in good conscience, BLOG ABOUT HER DAUGHTERS RAPE as soon as she gets home from the clinic, instead of taking her daughter to the hospital, which the mom says was recommended by the clinic based on the extent of her injuries? And then, days later, she is writing carefree blogs about getting manicures?!?!

if you think the mother did the right thing, why don't you provide us with your mother's name along with other identifying details that will help us to determine who you are? Because that is exactly what the mother did in this instance. She whored out her daughter's rape story to advance her political and religious ideology and to pat herself on the back for "doing the right thing." Do you have a relationship with Jesus? And if so, do you really, really think this is what He would want?

Fine, that mother has the right to make certain decisions for her child (IF this story is true, and IF the child is as severely disabled as the mother seems to suggest, which clearly conflicts with pretty readily available information that suggests the girl is troubled, yes, and maybe has mental illness but is far from having a "limited cognitive abilities" which suggest a much more severe condition!

It is simply stunning to me that someone like this woman was ever allowed to adopt. God, how scary. Honestly she is an argument FOR abortion; on the one hand, you prevent a child from developing from a fetus. On the other hand, you could adopt, but then consider the alternative could be your offspring, once alive, would be brought up in an abusive home with parents who brag about their abusive and scary parenting on the internet, and practically live-blog your violent rape. How do people like this pass adoption screening? I thought it was hard to adopt? I thought there were background and mental health checks for prospective adoptive parents?

This blog has really, really upset me. This poor young girl. My heart goes out to her and I hope she escapes this abusive situation and this abusive mother as soon as possible. I'm praying that the authorities get involved.

Oh, and by the way? I am pro-life!!!

Well, you should be very upset with the Pro-Life machine that fabricated this story.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow. Disabled people have kids all the time. I'm not saying it's right in these circumstances, but it's not a reason not to have children.

Oh, didn't you get the memo? All the pro-choicers abort their unborn disabled babies. They don't believe that disabled people should be born, let alone reproduce.

I have to assume you are being ironic, since I have a disabled child and am pro-choice, and know lots of pro-choice moms with disabled kids.

Disabled with something that was diagnosed before birth? Or disabled meaning sensory disorders, autism or aspergers spectrum, or ADD type disabilities? You can't know ahead of time if your child is going to have those problems, so obviously people will wind up with those children despite their best efforts to not give birth to a disabled child.

Down Syndrome -- well, 90% of those babies (once the parents gets the diagnosis) are extinguished before birth. Mostly because "it might be too hard or scary", even though those babies were otherwise wanted. Even though those babies are often close to the point of viability by the time the diagnosis is confirmed. Even though there is a very long waiting list of families in the US who would like to adopt a Down Syndrome baby. And, even though they still have to go through something very similar to labor and delivery. It is revolting and demonstrates an astonishing disrespect for the humanity of people with mental disabilities - despite the constant refrain of progressive rhetoric which "celebrates diversity".

*** And yes, I realize there are exceptions and that some people will still choose to keep a baby who was diagnosed with something in utero. *** Clearly this is the exception and not the rule, though.

[Anonymous]

This is 100% a hoax.

The disgusting liar that fabricated this story knows that, because of HIPPA, a legitimate diagnosis of rape would never be reportable. So, she can lie about what happened all she wants.

P.S. She posted in her blog about getting a pedicure like 2 days after this "rape" "happened", so she's either just a horrible person, or a soulless, evil monster.

[Anonymous]

Well, you should be very upset with the Pro-Life machine that fabricated this story.

Well, I consider myself very pro-life, and I would suggest that the Pro-Life Machine, as you put it -- whatever the hell that means, has nothing to do with this. Whether real, partially real, or completely made up, the woman who wrote this is a sick fuck; no getting around it. I have a disabled sister, and the thought that someone (the mother, no less!) would spread this kind of personal information around the internet, or use her own daughter's awful circumstances to promote her agenda, is absolutely disgusting. If fabricated, all the more horrible. Gag, gag, gag!