Bad Parenting 101- "Why I Rejected Plan B After my DIsabled Dughter was Raped"

[Anonymous]

The mother is whacko. Everything is about HER and she has totally betrayed the privacy of her daughter and family.

Attention whore!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"no child conceived in rape is innocent"

As a rape victim myself, I find this statement extremely troubling. Perhaps it was just spoken in anger and pain, but I cannot let it go without comment.

A child is innocent of his or her parents' sins and mistakes. A great deal of evil is visited on innocent children around the world and throughout time due to this mistaken idea that they share the blame for something they did not do.

Should children of rape and incest, when discovered, be executed? What about children conceived in anger, or revenge, or oppression, or dishonesty, or spite? Or should they just be ostracized, hated, and ignored? What about those conceived out of wedlock, or within an unhappy or unbalanced marriage?

No, because they are innocent. They are children.

Those who are unequivocally pro-life believe life deserves protection from the moment of conception (not implantation) to the moment of natural death. So causing an abortion of a newly conceived life is the moral equivalent of executing a newborn because her father was a rapist.

This mother put her beliefs in action. Her daughter agreed with her decision. All of the mother's children are adopted, and her daughter who was raped may have resulted from rape herself. She made her choice, and she made it with love.

The death penalty is a separate issue, because it does not involve innocent life. Saying all children conceived in rape deserve to die is depraved.

For the record, I am pro-life and against the death penalty, and I would do what that mother did.

Well, I was 18 and also innocent. You have no idea what I went through and I prayed for hours and hours that he wouldn't kill me and have spent all the years since, wondering if I wouldn't have been better off if he had and I there are still times when I think I would have been. So, no, this was not an innocent child to me because, even though my god-awful misguided parents refused to allow me to abort, they preached and preached about the fact that because I was raped by a white man, I must have led him on and that I was ruined forever because no decent man would ever want me. So, you believe what you want to believe and I will believe what I want to believe. In my case, I was right, because this bastard child was able to find me and wanted money. She tried to blackmail me by threatening to tell my husband (thankfully, a decent man did want me and love me) and my children. My husband knew but my children did not. He called the police and reported her. Some innocent, wasn't she?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am pro-choice (I've had a termination myself) - but I found her story increadable strong.

It's not my place to judge someone elses choice. That is the thing about being pro-CHOICE. It is her choice to make. And she made it.

I completely disagree. Because there is a fundamental difference between making a *moral* judgment, and using that as the basis for *legal* judgment.

I am also pro-choice. I believe the choice of whether or not to have an abortion should be made my an individual and not by the state. But that doesn't mean I won't judge you if I don't agree with the basis of your decision. It just means I respect your right to make that decision.

[Anonymous]

Sorry - to force this young woman to bear a pregnancy to term after a brutal rape like this is akin to torture. The choice to me is simple: torture my child or stop a pregnancy by keeping some cells from implanting on her uterus?

Simple choice that a loving parent can make. And then she learns to live with any ambivalence she feels about what she decided. My job would be to protect my daughter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am pro-choice (I've had a termination myself) - but I found her story increadable strong.

It's not my place to judge someone elses choice. That is the thing about being pro-CHOICE. It is her choice to make. And she made it.

I completely disagree. Because there is a fundamental difference between making a *moral* judgment, and using that as the basis for *legal* judgment.

I am also pro-choice. I believe the choice of whether or not to have an abortion should be made my an individual and not by the state. But that doesn't mean I won't judge you if I don't agree with the basis of your decision. It just means I respect your right to make that decision.

Thank you!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"no child conceived in rape is innocent"

As a rape victim myself, I find this statement extremely troubling. Perhaps it was just spoken in anger and pain, but I cannot let it go without comment.

A child is innocent of his or her parents' sins and mistakes. A great deal of evil is visited on innocent children around the world and throughout time due to this mistaken idea that they share the blame for something they did not do.

Should children of rape and incest, when discovered, be executed? What about children conceived in anger, or revenge, or oppression, or dishonesty, or spite? Or should they just be ostracized, hated, and ignored? What about those conceived out of wedlock, or within an unhappy or unbalanced marriage?

No, because they are innocent. They are children.

Those who are unequivocally pro-life believe life deserves protection from the moment of conception (not implantation) to the moment of natural death. So causing an abortion of a newly conceived life is the moral equivalent of executing a newborn because her father was a rapist.

This mother put her beliefs in action. Her daughter agreed with her decision. All of the mother's children are adopted, and her daughter who was raped may have resulted from rape herself. She made her choice, and she made it with love.

The death penalty is a separate issue, because it does not involve innocent life. Saying all children conceived in rape deserve to die is depraved.

For the record, I am pro-life and against the death penalty, and I would do what that mother did.

No one said this.

The OP of the quote you highlighted was a rape victim whose parents made the choice for her to carry the pregnancy. You twisted her words to suit your agenda. typical. I believe her point was that being the child of a rape victim is a burden, perhaps she can clarify. I highly doubt she meant what you say she did.

Yikes, I stand corrected. see response from the PP in question above.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am pro-choice (I've had a termination myself) - but I found her story increadable strong.

It's not my place to judge someone elses choice. That is the thing about being pro-CHOICE. It is her choice to make. And she made it.

Yes, but in most cases "pro-lifers" are as embracing as you.

So while I admire your ability to be open minded, I don't think pro-choicers and pro-lifers will meet halfway.

[Anonymous]

I don't believe for one second that that crap is real.

Who, after finding out their daughter, who has been missing for 48 hours, has been raped and brutalized has the presence of mind immediately after to sit down and blog about how awesome she is for sticking to her ideals?

Also the daughter is bipolar, yet this person repeatedly calls her mentally ill and goes on about her diminished capacity.... I might be mistaken, but properly medicated a bi polar individual is perfectly capable of thinking for themselves. So all she did was shove her own morals down her daughter's throat. If this was real, then this is the Worst Mother Ever.

[Anonymous]

This wasn't her decision to make. It was her daughter's decision. Maybe her daughter would have decided to use the Plan B, maybe she'd have made the same decision as the mother, either way I would have supported that choice. But the mom's job in this, her only job in this should have been to stand by her daughter, to make sure she had comfort and company while she made the choice, and that she had access to unbiases, accurate information.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This wasn't her decision to make. It was her daughter's decision. Maybe her daughter would have decided to use the Plan B, maybe she'd have made the same decision as the mother, either way I would have supported that choice. But the mom's job in this, her only job in this should have been to stand by her daughter, to make sure she had comfort and company while she made the choice, and that she had access to unbiases, accurate information.

Her daughter agreed with her mother's decision:

"Hilton says her daughter understands what happened and is glad she did not take the pill. “I said, ‘That kind of medication makes you have an abortion if you’re pregnant.’ And she said, ‘Oh, it would kill the baby. Oh, then I’m glad you didn’t give it to me.’”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't believe for one second that that crap is real.

Who, after finding out their daughter, who has been missing for 48 hours, has been raped and brutalized has the presence of mind immediately after to sit down and blog about how awesome she is for sticking to her ideals?

Also the daughter is bipolar, yet this person repeatedly calls her mentally ill and goes on about her diminished capacity.... I might be mistaken, but properly medicated a bi polar individual is perfectly capable of thinking for themselves. So all she did was shove her own morals down her daughter's throat. If this was real, then this is the Worst Mother Ever.

She wrote her blog post a week after her daughter's disappearance, and several days after she came home. Her speaks of her daughter's "cognitive impairment" separately from her bipolar diagnosis. And her daughter concurred with her mother about the medication.

The mother is a real person. If she is making up a daughter, or making up an assault on her daughter, that is pretty tremendous.

[Anonymous]

A few tests could have told them if ovulation was impending. Plan B can prevent ovulation.

[Anonymous]

^^^"she" speaks, sorry for typo

[Anonymous]

Plan B can prevent ovulation.

But that's murder, didn't you know? Every sperm is sacred, even the one from the rapist that could have possibly impregnated my daughter! Even though she'll to have to go off her bipolar medication during the pregnancy and raise a baby even though she's severely cognitively impaired! A choice everyone can live with!

Un. Fucking. Real.

[Anonymous]

This is really about the rights of the disabled to me. If the daughter has enough capacity to supposedly agree ex post that she wanted to skip the plan b, then she had enough capacity in the first place to make the decision.