If You Grew up in MD, Would you ever move to VA?

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Anonymous wrote:From MD and we would NEVER move to VA. We are gay and would never live in a such a bigoted state. My husband actually won't even visit friends there. Then again we wouldn't visit Nigeria for the same reason.

See, we need people like you to come here and be voters!

I grew up in CT, been in VA 20 years. I am a total democrat, liberal, unitarian from an LGTB "welcoming" congregation. I love VA. I live in FFX City. Small town feel, great schools, two minutes to metro, wonderful parks, nice people, very diverse, lots of conveniences and within a short drive of many things I like to do. Even traffic is not THAT bad as long as you work the system - flex your hours, use HOV, a hybrid, metro, what have you.

I think of MD as being either high crime or unaffordable farm land turned into mcmansions. Not saying VA doesn't also have the mcmansions but NOVA also has so many nice old neighborhoods to choose from.

I am very happy with the place I landed; no interest in moving.

It's interesting because I think of Virginia as being full of hicks, rednecks and/or super-conservative right-wingers who have low levels of tolerance for minorities. Not sure why, but I feel VA is a bigoted and racist place to be. As a minority, I'm not at all interested in living there.

well I am glad you don't live in Virginia because you are a moron. Virginia has the 8th largest percentage of blacks of the 50 states. MD and VA are essentially identical. same geography, same weather. The politics of MD outside of Baltimore and DC is identical to that of Virginia outside of NoVa and Richmond. Virginia has two democratic senators. Just so silly. Both have great public schools.

I'm a moron because of my opinions, yet you're entitled to your own? Yeah, I can see that Virginia is a very welcoming and nonjudgmental place to be. If you don't mind, I'll still take a pass.

No, you're a moron because your opinion has no foundation in reality. And by your own admission, you don't even know why you have it.

[Anonymous]

"It's interesting because I think of Virginia as being full of hicks, rednecks and/or super-conservative right-wingers who have low levels of tolerance for minorities. Not sure why, but I feel VA is a bigoted and racist place to be. As a minority, I'm not at all interested in living there. "

So are you in Howard County or what? If PG, then there's not much to discuss.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:From MD and we would NEVER move to VA. We are gay and would never live in a such a bigoted state. My husband actually won't even visit friends there. Then again we wouldn't visit Nigeria for the same reason.

See, we need people like you to come here and be voters!

I grew up in CT, been in VA 20 years. I am a total democrat, liberal, unitarian from an LGTB "welcoming" congregation. I love VA. I live in FFX City. Small town feel, great schools, two minutes to metro, wonderful parks, nice people, very diverse, lots of conveniences and within a short drive of many things I like to do. Even traffic is not THAT bad as long as you work the system - flex your hours, use HOV, a hybrid, metro, what have you.

I think of MD as being either high crime or unaffordable farm land turned into mcmansions. Not saying VA doesn't also have the mcmansions but NOVA also has so many nice old neighborhoods to choose from.

I am very happy with the place I landed; no interest in moving.

It's interesting because I think of Virginia as being full of hicks, rednecks and/or super-conservative right-wingers who have low levels of tolerance for minorities. Not sure why, but I feel VA is a bigoted and racist place to be. As a minority, I'm not at all interested in living there.

well I am glad you don't live in Virginia because you are a moron. Virginia has the 8th largest percentage of blacks of the 50 states. MD and VA are essentially identical. same geography, same weather. The politics of MD outside of Baltimore and DC is identical to that of Virginia outside of NoVa and Richmond. Virginia has two democratic senators. Just so silly. Both have great public schools.

I'm a moron because of my opinions, yet you're entitled to your own? Yeah, I can see that Virginia is a very welcoming and nonjudgmental place to be. If you don't mind, I'll still take a pass.

No, you're a moron because your opinion has no foundation in reality. And by your own admission, you don't even know why you have it.

When I say "I don't know why" it's because it's more a feeling of not being comfortable when I'm in VA. I've been called a n-i-g-g-e-r when I was vacationing in Virginia Beach, so perhaps that's played a role. VA just seems really backward and unwelcoming. As a white woman, I'm sure YMMV.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:From MD and we would NEVER move to VA. We are gay and would never live in a such a bigoted state. My husband actually won't even visit friends there. Then again we wouldn't visit Nigeria for the same reason.

See, we need people like you to come here and be voters!

I grew up in CT, been in VA 20 years. I am a total democrat, liberal, unitarian from an LGTB "welcoming" congregation. I love VA. I live in FFX City. Small town feel, great schools, two minutes to metro, wonderful parks, nice people, very diverse, lots of conveniences and within a short drive of many things I like to do. Even traffic is not THAT bad as long as you work the system - flex your hours, use HOV, a hybrid, metro, what have you.

I think of MD as being either high crime or unaffordable farm land turned into mcmansions. Not saying VA doesn't also have the mcmansions but NOVA also has so many nice old neighborhoods to choose from.

I am very happy with the place I landed; no interest in moving.

It's interesting because I think of Virginia as being full of hicks, rednecks and/or super-conservative right-wingers who have low levels of tolerance for minorities. Not sure why, but I feel VA is a bigoted and racist place to be. As a minority, I'm not at all interested in living there.

That level of unfounded ignorance is breath-taking. You don't know why, but you still have an opinion on it. Idiot.

LOL; you guys love throwing around the "idiot" and "moron" labels. It's really juvenile to resort to name-calling. Let's be adults, shall we?

[Anonymous]

I lived in Va Beach for a few years, and heard the N world all the time on the boardwalk. However, 100% of the time it was used by african-americans. Va beach sucks, but so does ocean city. SW Virginia is poor and backwards, but so is western md. Eastern shore of VA is rural and somewhat unsophisticated, but so is most of southern md and most of the eastern shore of md. Suburbs of DC are similar in MD and VA, and Baltimore is a slightly bigger version of Norfolk/Richmond. States are much more similar than different. Slaveholding southern states (south of the M/D Line) that now identify more with the mid-atlantic than the deep south.

[Anonymous]

"When I say "I don't know why" it's because it's more a feeling of not being comfortable when I'm in VA. I've been called a n-i-g-g-e-r when I was vacationing in Virginia Beach, so perhaps that's played a role. VA just seems really backward and unwelcoming. As a white woman, I'm sure YMMV."

But Virginia Beach is full of military and rural hicks. It's much closer demographically to WVA than to NOVA. Are you aware of the differences in income and racial and ethnic diversity?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:From MD and we would NEVER move to VA. We are gay and would never live in a such a bigoted state. My husband actually won't even visit friends there. Then again we wouldn't visit Nigeria for the same reason.

See, we need people like you to come here and be voters!

I grew up in CT, been in VA 20 years. I am a total democrat, liberal, unitarian from an LGTB "welcoming" congregation. I love VA. I live in FFX City. Small town feel, great schools, two minutes to metro, wonderful parks, nice people, very diverse, lots of conveniences and within a short drive of many things I like to do. Even traffic is not THAT bad as long as you work the system - flex your hours, use HOV, a hybrid, metro, what have you.

I think of MD as being either high crime or unaffordable farm land turned into mcmansions. Not saying VA doesn't also have the mcmansions but NOVA also has so many nice old neighborhoods to choose from.

I am very happy with the place I landed; no interest in moving.

It's interesting because I think of Virginia as being full of hicks, rednecks and/or super-conservative right-wingers who have low levels of tolerance for minorities. Not sure why, but I feel VA is a bigoted and racist place to be. As a minority, I'm not at all interested in living there.

well I am glad you don't live in Virginia because you are a moron. Virginia has the 8th largest percentage of blacks of the 50 states. MD and VA are essentially identical. same geography, same weather. The politics of MD outside of Baltimore and DC is identical to that of Virginia outside of NoVa and Richmond. Virginia has two democratic senators. Just so silly. Both have great public schools.

I'm a moron because of my opinions, yet you're entitled to your own? Yeah, I can see that Virginia is a very welcoming and nonjudgmental place to be. If you don't mind, I'll still take a pass.

No, you're a moron because your opinion has no foundation in reality. And by your own admission, you don't even know why you have it.

When I say "I don't know why" it's because it's more a feeling of not being comfortable when I'm in VA. I've been called a n-i-g-g-e-r when I was vacationing in Virginia Beach, so perhaps that's played a role. VA just seems really backward and unwelcoming. As a white woman, I'm sure YMMV.

A). I'm not white. Nice try, though. Not everyone in Virginia is.
B). Was the person who called you that white? As a PP said, everytime I've heard that in VA (and it has never been in NoVA), it has been in the Tidewater area.
C). MD isn't exactly a bastion of progressive racial equality. See Park, Glen Echo.

You're really fond of eye rolling. Must be lovely in person, too.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From MD and we would NEVER move to VA. We are gay and would never live in a such a bigoted state. My husband actually won't even visit friends there. Then again we wouldn't visit Nigeria for the same reason.

See, we need people like you to come here and be voters!

I grew up in CT, been in VA 20 years. I am a total democrat, liberal, unitarian from an LGTB "welcoming" congregation. I love VA. I live in FFX City. Small town feel, great schools, two minutes to metro, wonderful parks, nice people, very diverse, lots of conveniences and within a short drive of many things I like to do. Even traffic is not THAT bad as long as you work the system - flex your hours, use HOV, a hybrid, metro, what have you.

I think of MD as being either high crime or unaffordable farm land turned into mcmansions. Not saying VA doesn't also have the mcmansions but NOVA also has so many nice old neighborhoods to choose from.

I am very happy with the place I landed; no interest in moving.

It's interesting because I think of Virginia as being full of hicks, rednecks and/or super-conservative right-wingers who have low levels of tolerance for minorities. Not sure why, but I feel VA is a bigoted and racist place to be. As a minority, I'm not at all interested in living there.

That level of unfounded ignorance is breath-taking. You don't know why, but you still have an opinion on it. Idiot.

LOL; you guys love throwing around the "idiot" and "moron" labels. It's really juvenile to resort to name-calling. Let's be adults, shall we?

The use of "LOL" is usually a hallmark of maturity and sophistication. How's adolescence treating you?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From MD and we would NEVER move to VA. We are gay and would never live in a such a bigoted state. My husband actually won't even visit friends there. Then again we wouldn't visit Nigeria for the same reason.

See, we need people like you to come here and be voters!

I grew up in CT, been in VA 20 years. I am a total democrat, liberal, unitarian from an LGTB "welcoming" congregation. I love VA. I live in FFX City. Small town feel, great schools, two minutes to metro, wonderful parks, nice people, very diverse, lots of conveniences and within a short drive of many things I like to do. Even traffic is not THAT bad as long as you work the system - flex your hours, use HOV, a hybrid, metro, what have you.

I think of MD as being either high crime or unaffordable farm land turned into mcmansions. Not saying VA doesn't also have the mcmansions but NOVA also has so many nice old neighborhoods to choose from.

I am very happy with the place I landed; no interest in moving.

It's interesting because I think of Virginia as being full of hicks, rednecks and/or super-conservative right-wingers who have low levels of tolerance for minorities. Not sure why, but I feel VA is a bigoted and racist place to be. As a minority, I'm not at all interested in living there.

That level of unfounded ignorance is breath-taking. You don't know why, but you still have an opinion on it. Idiot.

LOL; you guys love throwing around the "idiot" and "moron" labels. It's really juvenile to resort to name-calling. Let's be adults, shall we?

The use of "LOL" is usually a hallmark of maturity and sophistication. How's adolescence treating you?

Nice try, but unfortunately, your attempt failed. Didn't realize laughing (and using web-lingo to show that) was immature.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"When I say "I don't know why" it's because it's more a feeling of not being comfortable when I'm in VA. I've been called a n-i-g-g-e-r when I was vacationing in Virginia Beach, so perhaps that's played a role. VA just seems really backward and unwelcoming. As a white woman, I'm sure YMMV."

But Virginia Beach is full of military and rural hicks. It's much closer demographically to WVA than to NOVA. Are you aware of the differences in income and racial and ethnic diversity?

Understood and point well taken. Honestly, though, I just believe VA to be a place of bigotry. Whether my opinion is founded or not does not change my views. I'm sure there are really nice people in all areas of VA, but it just would not be where I would choose to live for the reasons I stated. For the people that I know of that are from VA, they are either:

1) backward, red-neck'ish with racist beliefs
2) Hard-nosed conservatives who hold really staunch views where there seems to be a low level of tolerance for those that don't measure up financially.
3) HHI folks who measure their success and those around them by what designer labels they wear, in what gated community they live, in what school their child attends, etc.

Again, my opinion based on my experiences. Other people's MMV.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:"When I say "I don't know why" it's because it's more a feeling of not being comfortable when I'm in VA. I've been called a n-i-g-g-e-r when I was vacationing in Virginia Beach, so perhaps that's played a role. VA just seems really backward and unwelcoming. As a white woman, I'm sure YMMV."

But Virginia Beach is full of military and rural hicks. It's much closer demographically to WVA than to NOVA. Are you aware of the differences in income and racial and ethnic diversity?

Understood and point well taken. Honestly, though, I just believe VA to be a place of bigotry. Whether my opinion is founded or not does not change my views. I'm sure there are really nice people in all areas of VA, but it just would not be where I would choose to live for the reasons I stated. For the people that I know of that are from VA, they are either:

1) backward, red-neck'ish with racist beliefs
2) Hard-nosed conservatives who hold really staunch views where there seems to be a low level of tolerance for those that don't measure up financially.
3) HHI folks who measure their success and those around them by what designer labels they wear, in what gated community they live, in what school their child attends, etc.

Again, my opinion based on my experiences. Other people's MMV.

wow that is stupid. this has to be a troll.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:"When I say "I don't know why" it's because it's more a feeling of not being comfortable when I'm in VA. I've been called a n-i-g-g-e-r when I was vacationing in Virginia Beach, so perhaps that's played a role. VA just seems really backward and unwelcoming. As a white woman, I'm sure YMMV."

But Virginia Beach is full of military and rural hicks. It's much closer demographically to WVA than to NOVA. Are you aware of the differences in income and racial and ethnic diversity?

Understood and point well taken. Honestly, though, I just believe VA to be a place of bigotry. Whether my opinion is founded or not does not change my views. I'm sure there are really nice people in all areas of VA, but it just would not be where I would choose to live for the reasons I stated. For the people that I know of that are from VA, they are either:

1) backward, red-neck'ish with racist beliefs
2) Hard-nosed conservatives who hold really staunch views where there seems to be a low level of tolerance for those that don't measure up financially.
3) HHI folks who measure their success and those around them by what designer labels they wear, in what gated community they live, in what school their child attends, etc.

Again, my opinion based on my experiences. Other people's MMV.

I am the PP from CT who likes VA. I can understand why you would have this impression. In my experience it's inaccurate, but then not being black, I don't know what the black experience is here.

VA does have more of a deep south feel, outside of NOVA. HQ of the confederacy and all that. Robert E Lee day, wasn't that our invention? MD has a more New Englandish, liberal, non-slave state FEEL although yes I know there were slaves there.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:"When I say "I don't know why" it's because it's more a feeling of not being comfortable when I'm in VA. I've been called a n-i-g-g-e-r when I was vacationing in Virginia Beach, so perhaps that's played a role. VA just seems really backward and unwelcoming. As a white woman, I'm sure YMMV."

But Virginia Beach is full of military and rural hicks. It's much closer demographically to WVA than to NOVA. Are you aware of the differences in income and racial and ethnic diversity?

Understood and point well taken. Honestly, though, I just believe VA to be a place of bigotry. Whether my opinion is founded or not does not change my views. I'm sure there are really nice people in all areas of VA, but it just would not be where I would choose to live for the reasons I stated. For the people that I know of that are from VA, they are either:

1) backward, red-neck'ish with racist beliefs
2) Hard-nosed conservatives who hold really staunch views where there seems to be a low level of tolerance for those that don't measure up financially.
3) HHI folks who measure their success and those around them by what designer labels they wear, in what gated community they live, in what school their child attends, etc.

Again, my opinion based on my experiences. Other people's MMV.

wow that is stupid. this has to be a troll.

I'm stupid because of my personal experiences? Please, stop being so immature. Are you that unable to handle a contrasting viewpoint from your own? You are displaying the very lack of tolerance that I deplore.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:"When I say "I don't know why" it's because it's more a feeling of not being comfortable when I'm in VA. I've been called a n-i-g-g-e-r when I was vacationing in Virginia Beach, so perhaps that's played a role. VA just seems really backward and unwelcoming. As a white woman, I'm sure YMMV."

But Virginia Beach is full of military and rural hicks. It's much closer demographically to WVA than to NOVA. Are you aware of the differences in income and racial and ethnic diversity?

Understood and point well taken. Honestly, though, I just believe VA to be a place of bigotry. Whether my opinion is founded or not does not change my views. I'm sure there are really nice people in all areas of VA, but it just would not be where I would choose to live for the reasons I stated. For the people that I know of that are from VA, they are either:

1) backward, red-neck'ish with racist beliefs
2) Hard-nosed conservatives who hold really staunch views where there seems to be a low level of tolerance for those that don't measure up financially.
3) HHI folks who measure their success and those around them by what designer labels they wear, in what gated community they live, in what school their child attends, etc.

Again, my opinion based on my experiences. Other people's MMV.

I am the PP from CT who likes VA. I can understand why you would have this impression. In my experience it's inaccurate, but then not being black, I don't know what the black experience is here.

VA does have more of a deep south feel, outside of NOVA. HQ of the confederacy and all that. Robert E Lee day, wasn't that our invention? MD has a more New Englandish, liberal, non-slave state FEEL although yes I know there were slaves there.

You explained my POV in a very PC-way! Thanks! I guess I should've been less blunt in my opinion. I was dancing around it, but really my main beef with VA and while I'm not totally comfortable there is because of its history with slavery. Perhaps when I'm in the state, I'm hyper-sensitive and, as a result, notice unsavory things more. I'm not sure, but it's exactly as you describe...For me, VA feels more Southern/conservative while MD definitely feels more New England'ish/progressive/accommodating.

[Anonymous]

So PP, where in MD do you live?