Record number of high schoolers swapping the Ivy League for the SEC thanks to sunshine, campus culture - The Times

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Anonymous wrote:Social media influence.

Part of the dumbing down of America. Education isn’t the focus. Just partying and enjoying themselves. I’m not sure why parents pay for the 4 year party but they are.

Worse their DD are going to jail or possibly death.
Plus no jobs upon graduation is a great financial decision

STFU loser

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The immigrant-baiting on this forum is baffling given the anti-MAGA “I’ll Never send my kid to a red state” sentiment. There are a lot of first and second gen immigrant kids at the popular Southern flagships.

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How come the state of Georgia is such an outlier among the southern states with this trend as the only southern state losing students, according to the map in the article?

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SEC living rent free in all your heads LOL

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My currently 25 year old only wanted to go to Boston or NE schools.

My current 18 years old only wanted Southern schools.

Pre Covid vs. Post Covid.

UVA is way up in rankings and UNC is near OOS is harder than an IVY to get into for many.

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Anonymous wrote:Social media influence.

Part of the dumbing down of America. Education isn’t the focus. Just partying and enjoying themselves. I’m not sure why parents pay for the 4 year party but they are.

Your post is the best evidence of the dumbing down of America.

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Anonymous wrote:My currently 25 year old only wanted to go to Boston or NE schools.

My current 18 years old only wanted Southern schools.

Pre Covid vs. Post Covid.

UVA is way up in rankings and UNC is near OOS is harder than an IVY to get into for many.

That's by design and same as University of TX. UNC in state is still 40%+ acceptance rates.

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Anonymous wrote:Duke checks all the boxes. For class of 2029, Duke received over 60k applications. Top 5 academics, amazing campus, great weather. Top sports, and one of the best alumni networks.

lol no it doesn't. ROI sucks.

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Anonymous wrote:Swapping the Ivy League? That suggests they had a chance of admission in the first place.

Bwaaaahhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!

I know. I love when I hear parents whose kids were not even close to required test scores, rigor/goa sat the reason their kids aren’t attending the 3-5% admit Ivies is because they like sunshine. So they go to the 50-85% acceptance rate instead.

This was all click bait. It became a thing when the T20s were next to impossible to get into.

Exactly. Live near Duke, even top students here want Ivies. They apply to Duke also, but it doesn’t have the same wow factor that colder climate applicants fawn over.

That may just be the fact that Duke is too close to home. I live in the Pacific Northwest and Duke has the same if not more "wow factor" than any Ivy after HYP. My valedictorian kid is applying ED to Duke.

Close to home, but also a little easier to get into due to local bump. Year to year about 5-7 top students go from our small HS, but the very top 2-3 go to Ivies/Stanford. Despite their stellar ranking, it’s more of a standout from peers thing to go elsewhere. I see how that would not be case in other areas though when Duke acceptance is just as rare.

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Anonymous wrote:How come the state of Georgia is such an outlier among the southern states with this trend as the only southern state losing students, according to the map in the article?

It's because GA has the 2nd highest population after Florida, but not as many in state options that kids want to attend outside of UGA and Ga Tech.

It's more than double the size of Alabama, yet its two schools combined are 40% smaller than UAB and Auburn combined as an example.

TX also shows losing students BTW.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Swapping the Ivy League? That suggests they had a chance of admission in the first place.

Bwaaaahhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!

I know. I love when I hear parents whose kids were not even close to required test scores, rigor/goa sat the reason their kids aren’t attending the 3-5% admit Ivies is because they like sunshine. So they go to the 50-85% acceptance rate instead.

This was all click bait. It became a thing when the T20s were next to impossible to get into.

+100

The top kids at our HS still head to the Ivies/T20s.

Please stop with the "T20" BS. It's a figment of your imagination. There are about a half dozen legit ranking publications. All have different schools in their "Top 20". So if you are referring to USNWR Top 20 identify as USNW. If Princeton Review, Forbes, WSJ, and The Times or whatever they all have different rankings for their Top 20 identify the source.

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Post Covid everything is different. SEC is the new elite. Buying SEC stock now is like buying Apple stock in the 70’s.

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Anonymous wrote:How come the state of Georgia is such an outlier among the southern states with this trend as the only southern state losing students, according to the map in the article?

It's because GA has the 2nd highest population after Florida, but not as many in state options that kids want to attend outside of UGA and Ga Tech.

It's more than double the size of Alabama, yet its two schools combined are 40% smaller than UAB and Auburn combined as an example.

TX also shows losing students BTW.

And it's getting increasingly harder for in-state kids to get into those two schools, especially Ga Tech, which results in in-state kids going elsewhere. But, if you look at overall applications to those two schools it's really high. For example, Ga Tech received over 67,000 applications last cycle for around 4,000 spots for their 2029 Freshman class. UGA received approximately 48,000 applications for 2029 Freshman class.

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Generally, the SEC schools offer both a better education and a better experience than public colleges in the Northeast. Most people would choose Georgia or Florida over UMass or Rutgers and so on. It’s not surprising that many students in the Northeast are choosing Southern schools. They are better by every metric over their counterparts up North.

As for Duke, Vanderbilt, and Rice - they compete for the same students as the Ivy League. But those three schools seem to be on the upswing when it comes to getting talented students. Whereas most of the Ivy schools seem particularly blah and even miserable these days. The Ivy brand doesn’t have the same cachet it did a generation ago. So more and more top students are valuing campus experience over the name brand of the old Ivy schools. And Duke, Vandy, and Rice are all well known for being fairly happy schools - and that matters for the more well adjusted smart 18 year olds applying to college today.

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Anonymous wrote:Generally, the SEC schools offer both a better education and a better experience than public colleges in the Northeast. Most people would choose Georgia or Florida over UMass or Rutgers and so on. It’s not surprising that many students in the Northeast are choosing Southern schools. They are better by every metric over their counterparts up North.

As for Duke, Vanderbilt, and Rice - they compete for the same students as the Ivy League. But those three schools seem to be on the upswing when it comes to getting talented students. Whereas most of the Ivy schools seem particularly blah and even miserable these days. The Ivy brand doesn’t have the same cachet it did a generation ago. So more and more top students are valuing campus experience over the name brand of the old Ivy schools. And Duke, Vandy, and Rice are all well known for being fairly happy schools - and that matters for the more well adjusted smart 18 year olds applying to college today.

Duke, Vanderbilt and Rice are popular for very good reason. However, it is untrue that the Ivies are blah and miserable. The reality is most top students apply to many of the above options and will be lucky to get one. It’s a very small percentage of students that will ever have the good fortune to be debating between Ivy or Duke or other. Thankfully they are all great options as there is no shortage of capable and talented students.