Record number of high schoolers swapping the Ivy League for the SEC thanks to sunshine, campus culture - The Times

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The subtext is smart, wealthy, white, Christian, legacy American kids are trying to avoid the foreign hoards who’ve taken over schools in the north.

No, those kids still want T20.

The kids who aren't gunning for T20 are looking for cheaper, less competitive options, as they always have.

News flash: SEC schools are T20 publics

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The subtext is smart, wealthy, white, Christian, legacy American kids are trying to avoid the foreign hoards who’ve taken over schools in the north.

I don't think so, unless people are willing to now claim that schools like Vanderbilt and Duke are no different than any northern school. 15.2% of undergrads are international students at Vanderbilt...Duke is like 18%. Harvard undergrad is 15% international...Princeton 14%.

I don’t care if they’re technically international students or not — the Ivies, Hopkins and UChicago felt more like 80 to 90% Asian/Indian. Who in the heck wants that ruthless tiger cub, scammers and cheaters atmosphere for their kids. While also getting tormented by professors for their white privilege. And paying 300k to 400k USD for the privilege! No thanks.

The south is welcome to have all of the racist spawn.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The subtext is smart, wealthy, white, Christian, legacy American kids are trying to avoid the foreign hoards who’ve taken over schools in the north.

No, those kids still want T20.

The kids who aren't gunning for T20 are looking for cheaper, less competitive options, as they always have.

News flash: SEC schools are T20 publics

T20 <> "T20 pubics"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So you go to a southern university because you don't like the harsh winters of New England. Then after graduation you are offered a job in Detroit, a city that is shedding its rough past and reinventing itself. "Oh, no, I only want a job in a city where I can wear shorts and t-shirt all year round." ???

lol. Nobody wants a job in Detroit. After graduation the rich kids are going to Nashville, the Mountain West, Texas, Florida, Georgia, Carolina and the coasts with their college network.

Yuck who wants the humid super hot South? I don't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The subtext is smart, wealthy, white, Christian, legacy American kids are trying to avoid the foreign hoards who’ve taken over schools in the north.

No, those kids still want T20.

The kids who aren't gunning for T20 are looking for cheaper, less competitive options, as they always have.

News flash: SEC schools are T20 publics

T20 <> "T20 pubics"

T20 defined by whom? Is it an aggregate of all the ranking profiles (i.e. Times, WSJ, Forbes, USNWR etc). If not, then the whole concept of "T20" tossed around on this board is BS anyways.

[Anonymous]

Solution:

Admission should be major based and not college or university based

because, black and whites major heavy in social sciences and business: economics, political science, business & finance, etc

and Asians major heavy in stem and finance

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The subtext is smart, wealthy, white, Christian, legacy American kids are trying to avoid the foreign hoards who’ve taken over schools in the north.

No, those kids still want T20.

The kids who aren't gunning for T20 are looking for cheaper, less competitive options, as they always have.

News flash: SEC schools are T20 publics

T20 <> "T20 pubics"

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/top-public?myCollege=national-universities&_sort=myCollege&_sortDirection=asc

Deal with it!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can’t be too much about sunshine- their own graph shows students pouring out in hordes from Texas and California

Too hard to get in UT and AM

Uh…no not at all if you’re top of the class- as suggested tbt this article that students are going from ivy->SEC. The top 6% automatically get into Ut- which has a 30% acceptance rate. Top 10% automatically get into A&M and has a 60% acceptance rate. It isn’t difficult getting into these schools if you’re ivy material.

You don’t get it. Not everyone cares about ivies. Kids in the south want a top flagship or southern ivy

No I do get it- I’m from Texas! This isn’t an abstract idea. Pretty much anyone with a pulse gets into A&M. Most kids who were progressive were UT Austin or bust and left the state.

Not true. A&M rejects 40% of their applicants and its ranking is pretty decent for publics. Not a bad school hey any objective measure. Of course, the freaks on this thread are anything but objective.

>50% admit rate is safety school

Typical Ivy or bust mindset. These people covet exclusivity above all. They don’t know how to actually evaluate a product (be it a purse or a car or an education) on its merits, and they don’t care to know.

Or maybe their kids are just at a higher academic profile than yours? I don’t know a lot of 1500+/4.0 kids seriously considering a school that accepts 60% of applicants.

PP. My kids aren’t quite old enough to navigate this themselves yet, but I was a 1500+/4.0 kid who never considered an Ivy. I considered schools that were going to give me a full ride. Waste your money if you want to, but some of us aren’t complete suckers and brand whores.

Not all families have a budget constraint.

One doesn’t necessarily need a budget constraint to not light money on fire or flush it down the toilet. Maybe you do?

Well…yeah you do. You think someone dropping $30k on a Birken bag gives a shit what college costs?

You think even the average BigLaw partner really cares all that much about Harvard college tuition when they probably have already been spending nearly that every year already for private school?

You’re right, THIS is what the Ivies want. Don’t fall for their bullshit, the free tuition is for a handful of students when they educate more from the top 1% than the bottom 60%

Harvard doesn’t. Columbia doesn’t. Cornell doesn’t…this seems like cherry picking. The top colleges who take from the top 1% are…Washington University in St. Louis, Colorado College, W&L, Colby, Trinity, Bucknell, Colgate, Kenyon, Middlebury, and Tufts. None of the top public or private schools are ranked well for social mobility- UT Austin is at 1430 and Alabama is ranked 1517

Harvard does. In fact, here is a well-sourced scholarly text written by a Harvard alum on this exact topic. Maybe it’s on sale for Black Friday. You should educate yourself!

https://www.amazon.com/Poison-Ivy-Elite-Colleges-Divide/dp/1620976951

You don’t need this book. There’s a New York Times article with updated data on the matter. Harvard is not ranked in the top 38 universities that have more students from the top 1% than the bottom 60%.

Why? You might learn something. Harvard is dominated by the top 1% and there is no way you can spin it to suggest otherwise.

This is a really annoying way of just saying you don't want to look at the publicly accessible data.