Record number of high schoolers swapping the Ivy League for the SEC thanks to sunshine, campus culture - The Times

Anonymous
Duke checks all the boxes. For class of 2029, Duke received over 60k applications. Top 5 academics, amazing campus, great weather. Top sports, and one of the best alumni networks.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Can’t argue with the data they cite. Seems to boil down to fun and sunny weather. Ivy League losing its cachet. Ivy match kids increasingly prefer Vandy and Duke or a full merit scholarship at Alabama.

Why young Americans are shunning elite universities for the Deep South. Social life, sunshine and picturesque campuses are luring students from the northeast to colleges in South Carolina, Alabama and more.


https://www.thetimes.com/us/news-today/article/why-young-americans-are-shunning-elite-universities-for-the-deep-south-2ktn6fmv2


I don't see anything that long boring tabloid article about the ivy league. People picking SEC over UMass and Rutgers? Maybe
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Can’t argue with the data they cite. Seems to boil down to fun and sunny weather. Ivy League losing its cachet. Ivy match kids increasingly prefer Vandy and Duke or a full merit scholarship at Alabama.

Why young Americans are shunning elite universities for the Deep South. Social life, sunshine and picturesque campuses are luring students from the northeast to colleges in South Carolina, Alabama and more.


https://www.thetimes.com/us/news-today/article/why-young-americans-are-shunning-elite-universities-for-the-deep-south-2ktn6fmv2


I think it boils down to socializing with and hopefully marrying normal all American kids. The “elite” colleges are full of ugly radicals, detestable social climbing strivers, and international cheaters buying a degree.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Duke checks all the boxes. For class of 2029, Duke received over 60k applications. Top 5 academics, amazing campus, great weather. Top sports, and one of the best alumni networks.


Duke is not what people talk about with this trend—it’s the bama, ole miss, auburn, Tennessee, Georgia, etc. The kids that don’t stand a chance at Duke or an Ivy.

Duke is part of the T10/20.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can’t argue with the data they cite. Seems to boil down to fun and sunny weather. Ivy League losing its cachet. Ivy match kids increasingly prefer Vandy and Duke or a full merit scholarship at Alabama.

Why young Americans are shunning elite universities for the Deep South. Social life, sunshine and picturesque campuses are luring students from the northeast to colleges in South Carolina, Alabama and more.


https://www.thetimes.com/us/news-today/article/why-young-americans-are-shunning-elite-universities-for-the-deep-south-2ktn6fmv2


I don't see anything that long boring tabloid article about the ivy league. People picking SEC over UMass and Rutgers? Maybe


Someone without an Ivy degree posted this. lol
Anonymous
It’s silly when a school like Penn gets 73,000 applications (last year)…to say they are choosing the SEC over Ivy Legaue…when that’s more applications then nearly every SEC school.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It’s silly when a school like Penn gets 73,000 applications (last year)…to say they are choosing the SEC over Ivy Legaue…when that’s more applications then nearly every SEC school.


73K isn’t a lot in the grand scheme of things. Plus how many of those apps are international and first and second gen Americans with foreign born parents?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s silly when a school like Penn gets 73,000 applications (last year)…to say they are choosing the SEC over Ivy Legaue…when that’s more applications then nearly every SEC school.


73K isn’t a lot in the grand scheme of things. Plus how many of those apps are international and first and second gen Americans with foreign born parents?


Well…it’s 30,000 more than UGA, 15,000 more than Alabama, 10,000 more than UTK, 44,000 more than Oklahoma, etc.

It would be the 3rd most applied to school in the SEC (after UT Austin and UF), with a much smaller undergrad population.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s silly when a school like Penn gets 73,000 applications (last year)…to say they are choosing the SEC over Ivy Legaue…when that’s more applications then nearly every SEC school.


73K isn’t a lot in the grand scheme of things. Plus how many of those apps are international and first and second gen Americans with foreign born parents?


It's the 15th most applied to college in the entire country...WTF do you mean it isn't a lot in the grand scheme of things?

BTW, the UC schools receive like 125,000 - 150,000 applications each, and NYU receives like 105,000 applications.
Anonymous
The most applied to colleges are still the same. Ivies, colleges like USC, NYU, BU, Northeastern. Also the UC's because they share a common application, The "average" high schooler might be looking at Tenn, Alabama, Ole Miss. But those students weren't getting into an Ivy anyways.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s silly when a school like Penn gets 73,000 applications (last year)…to say they are choosing the SEC over Ivy Legaue…when that’s more applications then nearly every SEC school.


73K isn’t a lot in the grand scheme of things. Plus how many of those apps are international and first and second gen Americans with foreign born parents?


How many real Americans is an immigrant worth in your math?
Anonymous
My son chose a top 3 school over Duke and it was the harder choice for all of the reasons mentioned in this article. Duke had everything he wanted and would have provided an excellent education and connections.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I'm sure this impacts northern schools like Michigan, Mich State, Ohio State, Nebraska etc.

Auburn, Florida, Clemson, etc. are just as strong, if not stronger academically, as those schools and with much better weather you can see the trend.

Not from what I can tell looking at course descriptions and syllabi. No equivalent of Michigan math 295/296 or OSU math 4181H. The Auburn honors calc 3 uses a regular calc textbook. The honors physics uses a regular physics textbook. Need I go on?
Anonymous
Auburn math is terrible - you know it's bad when you need to go to the 5xxx level just to see a basic analysis course.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s silly when a school like Penn gets 73,000 applications (last year)…to say they are choosing the SEC over Ivy Legaue…when that’s more applications then nearly every SEC school.


73K isn’t a lot in the grand scheme of things. Plus how many of those apps are international and first and second gen Americans with foreign born parents?


How many real Americans is an immigrant worth in your math?
I think you meant to ask "how many real Americans is an American with immigrant parents or grandparents worth in your math?"
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