Holton parents - you have got to help your girls out with these skirts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:1. There is not a single Holton girl not wearing shorts under their skirts. Not one. So settle down.

2. It’s all the schools, not just Holton. Why? Because that’s what they do. We did it 20 years ago when I was at private school with a uniform skirts. This isn’t new.

3. Mind your own business, Linda. It’s not your job to police the clothing of girls.

While I agree that girls at lots of schools roll or hem their skirts to wear them short, I was a little surprised when I looked at the website. Yes I've seen girls from other schools dressed that way. But I've never seen a school showcase it in this way. Look at websites and Instagram pages for other private schools -- none of them feature photos of the girls in super short skirts. I'm sure it happens, it's just not advertised. Visi has a very similar uniform but none of the photos on the website show girls with super short skirts. Same with Stone Ridge.

Of course the girls are going to do with they do, but the community could treat it a little less as an expected behavior, and they could also be more thoughtful about their selection of photos. Not because the girls are doing something the rest of us should be policing, but because do we really need more photos of teen girls in ultra short skirts online? Especially on a website that is supposed to be about educating young women? It's weird.

If we were talking about photos the girls themselves posted, I'd endorse your whole comment. This isn't our business. But that website is bizarre.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This entire thread is filled with misogyny. You should be ashamed of yourselves. I hope it gets deleted.

I hope you’ve bought lots of those kickees or whatever you’re calling them and making sure they’re put on every day. That’s what I hope. I don’t want to see your daughter’s bikini line when she sits down. IDGAF if you think that offends some kind of women’s lib that is all girls wear their underwear to school and public because that’s not a thing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is an issue in every single Catholic high school. It is not going away unless there are real consequences at the school level.

I have never seen a skirt that short at my daughter's Catholic high school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This entire thread is filled with misogyny. You should be ashamed of yourselves. I hope it gets deleted.

I do not think that word means what you think it means.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This entire thread is filled with misogyny. You should be ashamed of yourselves. I hope it gets deleted.

Save your outrage for whatever has convinced you to send your kid to school in a ruffled belt without anything other than undies under promoting her school, and maybe reflect on the wisdom and message of that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.holton-arms.edu/about/our-mission

Um, wow. I was expecting this to be a bunch of pearl clutching about a few girls rolling their waistbands but this is the length the uniform is designed to be? Yikes.

I came here to say the same thing. I was thinking the best part of being young, thin and attractive is rolling up your skirt to show off your legs. But that pic takes it to a whole other level. And it is shocking it is their splash page.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1. There is not a single Holton girl not wearing shorts under their skirts. Not one. So settle down.

2. It’s all the schools, not just Holton. Why? Because that’s what they do. We did it 20 years ago when I was at private school with a uniform skirts. This isn’t new.

3. Mind your own business, Linda. It’s not your job to police the clothing of girls.

LMAO there were six of them in a group wearing tiny undies - not a short to be seen - at the Westbard Starbucks this morning bending over and getting their drinks. I’m not policing them, but they look insane and so do you for paying $45 k a year for this privilege.

Oh and multiple customers looked around at each other shaking their heads in disgust, probably because a couple had young boys with them, while two older gentlemen stared in pretty gross appreciation. Idk if that’s what you’re going for, but it’s what’s happening.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1. There is not a single Holton girl not wearing shorts under their skirts. Not one. So settle down.

2. It’s all the schools, not just Holton. Why? Because that’s what they do. We did it 20 years ago when I was at private school with a uniform skirts. This isn’t new.

3. Mind your own business, Linda. It’s not your job to police the clothing of girls.

While I agree that girls at lots of schools roll or hem their skirts to wear them short, I was a little surprised when I looked at the website. Yes I've seen girls from other schools dressed that way. But I've never seen a school showcase it in this way. Look at websites and Instagram pages for other private schools -- none of them feature photos of the girls in super short skirts. I'm sure it happens, it's just not advertised. Visi has a very similar uniform but none of the photos on the website show girls with super short skirts. Same with Stone Ridge.

Of course the girls are going to do with they do, but the community could treat it a little less as an expected behavior, and they could also be more thoughtful about their selection of photos. Not because the girls are doing something the rest of us should be policing, but because do we really need more photos of teen girls in ultra short skirts online? Especially on a website that is supposed to be about educating young women? It's weird.

If we were talking about photos the girls themselves posted, I'd endorse your whole comment. This isn't our business. But that website is bizarre.

This. I’m far more surprised and disappointed in the website and the school that is publicizing and normalizing that outfit. Girls are always going to roll their skirts, but it’s usually something that is breaking the rules — however strictly or poorly they are enforced. Here, those short skirts aren’t being hidden or something the girls are “getting away with,” but something the school is advertising front and center.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:1. There is not a single Holton girl not wearing shorts under their skirts. Not one. So settle down.

2. It’s all the schools, not just Holton. Why? Because that’s what they do. We did it 20 years ago when I was at private school with a uniform skirts. This isn’t new.

3. Mind your own business, Linda. It’s not your job to police the clothing of girls.

I don't think it is all of the schools. The Stone Ridge skirts look normal.
https://www.instagram.com/p/DKAMfCZzLco/?img_index=7

And NCS. https://www.instagram.com/p/DJKw4vqJgb6/?hl=en&img_index=1

SJC looks fine. https://www.instagram.com/p/DJ4xVqxMLH5/?hl=en

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1. There is not a single Holton girl not wearing shorts under their skirts. Not one. So settle down.

2. It’s all the schools, not just Holton. Why? Because that’s what they do. We did it 20 years ago when I was at private school with a uniform skirts. This isn’t new.

3. Mind your own business, Linda. It’s not your job to police the clothing of girls.

I don't think it is all of the schools. The Stone Ridge skirts look normal.
https://www.instagram.com/p/DKAMfCZzLco/?img_index=7

And NCS. https://www.instagram.com/p/DJKw4vqJgb6/?hl=en&img_index=1

SJC looks fine. https://www.instagram.com/p/DJ4xVqxMLH5/?hl=en

You’re wrong. It is. I could also go cherry pick photos that show Holton girls with skirts lengths you personally deem appropriate, but I’m smart enough to know that’s not proof of anything (notwithstanding the short skit I wore to my own private school on 1995).

[Anonymous]

Look if my 14 year old came to me in this outfit and told me she was going to school I would be like no you are not. Wouldn’t most parents say no to Britney Spears sexy school girl? That’s the litmus test right there. It’s not hard or confusing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1. There is not a single Holton girl not wearing shorts under their skirts. Not one. So settle down.

2. It’s all the schools, not just Holton. Why? Because that’s what they do. We did it 20 years ago when I was at private school with a uniform skirts. This isn’t new.

3. Mind your own business, Linda. It’s not your job to police the clothing of girls.

I don't think it is all of the schools. The Stone Ridge skirts look normal.
https://www.instagram.com/p/DKAMfCZzLco/?img_index=7

And NCS. https://www.instagram.com/p/DJKw4vqJgb6/?hl=en&img_index=1

SJC looks fine. https://www.instagram.com/p/DJ4xVqxMLH5/?hl=en

You’re wrong. It is. I could also go cherry pick photos that show Holton girls with skirts lengths you personally deem appropriate, but I’m smart enough to know that’s not proof of anything (notwithstanding the short skit I wore to my own private school on 1995).

The school could also have cherry-picked girls wearing skirts of more appropriate length and specifically chose this one. For their *website*.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When we toured Holton last year, my daughter thought that the uber-short skirts and rules against wearing pants until winter contradicted the school’s messaging about empowering girls. She chose a different (co-ed) school where we see a variety of skirt and shorts lengths, as well as plenty of girls wearing sweatpants, joggers and jeans.

Wait, so the school rule is all young ladies must show their thighs daily until it snows? Who exactly is in charge of this rule and the uniform choice? Please don't tell me a man is Head of School or I'll vomit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This entire thread is filled with misogyny. You should be ashamed of yourselves. I hope it gets deleted.

I do not think that word means what you think it means.

Thank you for your thoughtful response. Please educate yourself on why commenting on women’s clothing choices, especially those of young women and girls, unnecessarily sexualizes them and prohibits them from expressing themselves, being comfortable, or having autonomy over their bodies for fear of what others, especially boys and men might think. There are a million articles out there. Here’s one:
https://registerforum.org/15176/opinion/clothing-is-not-the-problem-misogyny-is/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1. There is not a single Holton girl not wearing shorts under their skirts. Not one. So settle down.

2. It’s all the schools, not just Holton. Why? Because that’s what they do. We did it 20 years ago when I was at private school with a uniform skirts. This isn’t new.

3. Mind your own business, Linda. It’s not your job to police the clothing of girls.

I don't think it is all of the schools. The Stone Ridge skirts look normal.
https://www.instagram.com/p/DKAMfCZzLco/?img_index=7

And NCS. https://www.instagram.com/p/DJKw4vqJgb6/?hl=en&img_index=1

SJC looks fine. https://www.instagram.com/p/DJ4xVqxMLH5/?hl=en

You’re wrong. It is. I could also go cherry pick photos that show Holton girls with skirts lengths you personally deem appropriate, but I’m smart enough to know that’s not proof of anything (notwithstanding the short skit I wore to my own private school on 1995).

What about the respective school websites, thought? I looked around Stone Ridge and NCS and could only find a single picture of too short shorts, not a school uniform: https://www.ncs.org/campus-life/global-education

All the other pictures I see don't even show the bottom half of the girls, more of them sitting at desks and working, or group pictures of them dressed appropriately. Makes the HA landing page look even weirder by contrast.