What happens to unborn babies?

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Anonymous wrote:Everybody will have a different answer. It depends in part on religion and upbringing. I’m Jewish so I was raised that there is no afterlife. I think believing in one can be very comforting though. I suggest talking to your clergy.

I didn't realize that. I'm not necessarily looking for a definitive answer, but just what others believe. I have a hard time conceptualizing what it means to meet someone in an afterlife that you didn't really meet alive.

I am agnostic but feel that if there is an afterlife with souls that we would most likely be reincarnated to be around our family/the other souls we like to travel with through eternity. I also like the idea of children seeking to be born to their family. So I would wonder if unborn children would be fewer than the number of pregnancies because maybe it would be just one or two souls looking for a chance to rejoin you in the physical world. I think if you met your children in the afterlife you would feel a sense of love. However souls commune. Babies in the womb do start to recognize aspects of their mother as they develop. Also, mothers apparently carry some fetal cells for life (fetal microchimerism). I can see there being amazing possibilities for recognition.

I wish you peace of mind and the reunion you seek.

The Catholic Church would likely say that since the miscarriages hadn't been baptized, they would be in hell. Or maybe they just go nowhere. Don't know. Best for you to ask a clergy person of your particular faith, as faiths vary as to where the unborn babies end up.

It's very simple for atheists, we just die, like Jews apparently do and like all other living things. Seems like no one worries about the dead animals, except maybe some dogs that they were attached to.

I was raised Catholic and was told the unborn babies are in purgatory.

I believe it's called Limbo.

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God makes no mistakes. An unborn baby was supposed to be unborn. Of course it would go to Heaven.

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Anonymous wrote:Estimates vary, but 10% to 20% of known pregnancies end in miscarriage before 20 weeks. The rate is higher when including very early losses that occur before a person knows they are pregnant.

Do all these unborn babies remain basically clumps of cells? Do they grow in heaven? Do they remain adolescents forever?

That would be more like hell to never be able to mature into an adult or have the experience of childhood and growing up.

A related question. For those who believe they will see their loved ones in heaven, what state will they be in? Will your mother be fit and beautiful in her 30s or will she be 85 with dementia and other ailments and unable to recognize you?

souls don't have bodies.

Souls are bodies, not separate from them.

No souls are not bodies, lol… wtf.

They are very separate from them. The inhabit a body and live in eternity once a body dies.

In Jewish tradition, souls are physically alive.

"And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul." (Genesis 2:7, KJV)

Here, we see that man is composed of two things: matter and breath. It doesn’t say here that God gave man a soul, but that he became a soul. In other words, this living soul was made of the physical, not the spiritual. We see God make other souls during creation as well.

And God said, “Let the waters swarm with swarms of living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the expanse of the heavens.” (Genesis 1:20)

If you consult an English/Hebrew translation, you’ll see that the word “creatures” is actually nephesh, the same word used to describe Adam as a “living soul.” Here, we see it accurately describe a living creature, just like we do in Genesis 1:21, 24, 30 (everything that has life).

If these two are the same things, it’s better to understand a soul as anything with a heartbeat.

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Anonymous wrote:Didn't Jesus forgive the criminal on the cross? I believe he said: "Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in Paradise" (Luke 23:43). Wouldn't God's mercy extend to unborn babies?

Why wouldn’t God give mercy to everything? He created everything. It wouldn’t make any sense for Him to not do it.

DP. I believe that God's mercy will eventually extend to everything and everyone, and what the previous poster posted doesn't preclude that. But that's not what the OP asked.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a Mom of 3 with 6 other losses. A friend who lost her baby as a stillborn expressed the hope that they would reunite in the afterlife and that hopefully her children aren't waiting long in their reality for the years she has left here.

I desperately wanted every pregnancy that I lost and while some were late none were as late as hers. What do you think happens to me in the afterlife? Do the 6 children meet me? In what form?

I don't have an answer but I acknowledge your grief and pain. Grief doesn't always end but I do think can lessen. I think life and death are such mysteries we just can't know. I do find comfort in prayer and I'm mostly agnostic. I pray for people (souls) who have died and people still here, especially the ones I don't like. Prayer helps me in many ways.

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In my religion, stillbirth is seen as a positive. The child got to skip all the pains of human life, and go straight to Heaven, to live a life of endless joy. In my view, you will meet all 6, who will have known only happiness, and will be thrilled to share that with you, finally.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a Mom of 3 with 6 other losses. A friend who lost her baby as a stillborn expressed the hope that they would reunite in the afterlife and that hopefully her children aren't waiting long in their reality for the years she has left here.

I desperately wanted every pregnancy that I lost and while some were late none were as late as hers. What do you think happens to me in the afterlife? Do the 6 children meet me? In what form?

I don't have an answer but I acknowledge your grief and pain. Grief doesn't always end but I do think can lessen. I think life and death are such mysteries we just can't know. I do find comfort in prayer and I'm mostly agnostic. I pray for people (souls) who have died and people still here, especially the ones I don't like. Prayer helps me in many ways.

Ae you praying for the person who shot all those kids, in church?

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Anonymous wrote:Everybody will have a different answer. It depends in part on religion and upbringing. I’m Jewish so I was raised that there is no afterlife. I think believing in one can be very comforting though. I suggest talking to your clergy.

I didn't realize that. I'm not necessarily looking for a definitive answer, but just what others believe. I have a hard time conceptualizing what it means to meet someone in an afterlife that you didn't really meet alive.

I am agnostic but feel that if there is an afterlife with souls that we would most likely be reincarnated to be around our family/the other souls we like to travel with through eternity. I also like the idea of children seeking to be born to their family. So I would wonder if unborn children would be fewer than the number of pregnancies because maybe it would be just one or two souls looking for a chance to rejoin you in the physical world. I think if you met your children in the afterlife you would feel a sense of love. However souls commune. Babies in the womb do start to recognize aspects of their mother as they develop. Also, mothers apparently carry some fetal cells for life (fetal microchimerism). I can see there being amazing possibilities for recognition.

I wish you peace of mind and the reunion you seek.

The Catholic Church would likely say that since the miscarriages hadn't been baptized, they would be in hell. Or maybe they just go nowhere. Don't know. Best for you to ask a clergy person of your particular faith, as faiths vary as to where the unborn babies end up.

It's very simple for atheists, we just die, like Jews apparently do and like all other living things. Seems like no one worries about the dead animals, except maybe some dogs that they were attached to.

I thought the unbaptized were stuck in Limbo.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a Mom of 3 with 6 other losses. A friend who lost her baby as a stillborn expressed the hope that they would reunite in the afterlife and that hopefully her children aren't waiting long in their reality for the years she has left here.

I desperately wanted every pregnancy that I lost and while some were late none were as late as hers. What do you think happens to me in the afterlife? Do the 6 children meet me? In what form?

I don't have an answer but I acknowledge your grief and pain. Grief doesn't always end but I do think can lessen. I think life and death are such mysteries we just can't know. I do find comfort in prayer and I'm mostly agnostic. I pray for people (souls) who have died and people still here, especially the ones I don't like. Prayer helps me in many ways.

Ae you praying for the person who shot all those kids, in church?

She’s praying for you and your tiny dick.

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Intellectually, I think that Heaven is some sort of thing that is both incredibly wonderful and incredibly different to the point that we can’t imagine it. I believe your babies, and my ten year old son, are there.

Because I can’t imagine it, I imagine something familiar. I imagine that time works differently and he doesn’t wake up there until I am there, and his siblings are there and we are all together and yet somehow his siblings are also with their eventual spouses and children. He is healed and whole and doesn’t hurt, and no one is scared. The last months of his life his pain and fear were so bad that neither of us slept and so I imagine he wakes up and realizes that he is perfectly safe and perfectly well and snuggled into my arms and we both fall back asleep.

His younger brother imagines something different, he imagines his brother peeking through clouds and cheering him on with grandparents, and Jesus there keeping him safe and happy. He told me that if I make something yummy and his brother asks for it, Jesus cooks it for him! When I ask him how Jesus cooks for so many children he shrugs and says it works like Santa. You just have to believe.

Is one of those stories closer to the truth than the other? No, they are both mere shadows of a truth we can’t understand. But they also both contain the idea that we will be whole and well and feel no grief or loneliness, and all our needs, like sleep and food and things we didn’t even no we needed, will be perfectly provided for us.

So, yes I believe they will meet you there and you will know each other. And I believe they will never know a moment or missing you or longing for you, but whether that’s because they won’t wake up till you get there or because they will be too busy baking cookies with Jesus? That I can’t tell you.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a Mom of 3 with 6 other losses. A friend who lost her baby as a stillborn expressed the hope that they would reunite in the afterlife and that hopefully her children aren't waiting long in their reality for the years she has left here.

I desperately wanted every pregnancy that I lost and while some were late none were as late as hers. What do you think happens to me in the afterlife? Do the 6 children meet me? In what form?

Are you religious? What does your faith tradition say about this subject?

Do you think an anonymous online forum is going to give you the answer you need to process this question?

Christians believe stillborn babies go to heaven due to God's mercy and the redemptive work of Jesus Christ.

In the Christian belief, bodies in heaven will be transformed, physical, and perfect, resembling the glorious body of the resurrected Jesus. These resurrected bodies will be immortal and incorruptible, free from disease, aging, pain, and sin, while still allowing for recognition of others.

This is from the pov of most Christians.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a Mom of 3 with 6 other losses. A friend who lost her baby as a stillborn expressed the hope that they would reunite in the afterlife and that hopefully her children aren't waiting long in their reality for the years she has left here.

I desperately wanted every pregnancy that I lost and while some were late none were as late as hers. What do you think happens to me in the afterlife? Do the 6 children meet me? In what form?

Are you religious? What does your faith tradition say about this subject?

Do you think an anonymous online forum is going to give you the answer you need to process this question?

Christians believe stillborn babies go to heaven due to God's mercy and the redemptive work of Jesus Christ.

In the Christian belief, bodies in heaven will be transformed, physical, and perfect, resembling the glorious body of the resurrected Jesus. These resurrected bodies will be immortal and incorruptible, free from disease, aging, pain, and sin, while still allowing for recognition of others.

This is from the pov of most Christians.

Most Christian denominations or just fundamentalist Christians, who tend to just call themselves "Christian."?

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Anonymous wrote:Intellectually, I think that Heaven is some sort of thing that is both incredibly wonderful and incredibly different to the point that we can’t imagine it. I believe your babies, and my ten year old son, are there.

Because I can’t imagine it, I imagine something familiar. I imagine that time works differently and he doesn’t wake up there until I am there, and his siblings are there and we are all together and yet somehow his siblings are also with their eventual spouses and children. He is healed and whole and doesn’t hurt, and no one is scared. The last months of his life his pain and fear were so bad that neither of us slept and so I imagine he wakes up and realizes that he is perfectly safe and perfectly well and snuggled into my arms and we both fall back asleep.

His younger brother imagines something different, he imagines his brother peeking through clouds and cheering him on with grandparents, and Jesus there keeping him safe and happy. He told me that if I make something yummy and his brother asks for it, Jesus cooks it for him! When I ask him how Jesus cooks for so many children he shrugs and says it works like Santa. You just have to believe.

Is one of those stories closer to the truth than the other? No, they are both mere shadows of a truth we can’t understand. But they also both contain the idea that we will be whole and well and feel no grief or loneliness, and all our needs, like sleep and food and things we didn’t even no we needed, will be perfectly provided for us.

So, yes I believe they will meet you there and you will know each other. And I believe they will never know a moment or missing you or longing for you, but whether that’s because they won’t wake up till you get there or because they will be too busy baking cookies with Jesus? That I can’t tell you.

Thank you for sharing. This is exactly how I feel. And I'm so sorry about your son.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a Mom of 3 with 6 other losses. A friend who lost her baby as a stillborn expressed the hope that they would reunite in the afterlife and that hopefully her children aren't waiting long in their reality for the years she has left here.

I desperately wanted every pregnancy that I lost and while some were late none were as late as hers. What do you think happens to me in the afterlife? Do the 6 children meet me? In what form?

I don't have an answer but I acknowledge your grief and pain. Grief doesn't always end but I do think can lessen. I think life and death are such mysteries we just can't know. I do find comfort in prayer and I'm mostly agnostic. I pray for people (souls) who have died and people still here, especially the ones I don't like. Prayer helps me in many ways.

Ae you praying for the person who shot all those kids, in church?

She’s praying for you and your tiny dick.

Not kind of you at all. Are you religious? If so, what religion allows such comments?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a Mom of 3 with 6 other losses. A friend who lost her baby as a stillborn expressed the hope that they would reunite in the afterlife and that hopefully her children aren't waiting long in their reality for the years she has left here.

I desperately wanted every pregnancy that I lost and while some were late none were as late as hers. What do you think happens to me in the afterlife? Do the 6 children meet me? In what form?

I don't have an answer but I acknowledge your grief and pain. Grief doesn't always end but I do think can lessen. I think life and death are such mysteries we just can't know. I do find comfort in prayer and I'm mostly agnostic. I pray for people (souls) who have died and people still here, especially the ones I don't like. Prayer helps me in many ways.

Ae you praying for the person who shot all those kids, in church?

She’s praying for you and your tiny dick.

Seems like an odd response to so many kids being shot at in Church. Is anyone praying for the kids? for the school?