What happens to unborn babies?

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Anonymous wrote:Everybody will have a different answer. It depends in part on religion and upbringing. I’m Jewish so I was raised that there is no afterlife. I think believing in one can be very comforting though. I suggest talking to your clergy.


I didn't realize that. I'm not necessarily looking for a definitive answer, but just what others believe. I have a hard time conceptualizing what it means to meet someone in an afterlife that you didn't really meet alive.


I am agnostic but feel that if there is an afterlife with souls that we would most likely be reincarnated to be around our family/the other souls we like to travel with through eternity. I also like the idea of children seeking to be born to their family. So I would wonder if unborn children would be fewer than the number of pregnancies because maybe it would be just one or two souls looking for a chance to rejoin you in the physical world. I think if you met your children in the afterlife you would feel a sense of love. However souls commune. Babies in the womb do start to recognize aspects of their mother as they develop. Also, mothers apparently carry some fetal cells for life (fetal microchimerism). I can see there being amazing possibilities for recognition.

I wish you peace of mind and the reunion you seek.


The Catholic Church would likely say that since the miscarriages hadn't been baptized, they would be in hell. Or maybe they just go nowhere. Don't know. Best for you to ask a clergy person of your particular faith, as faiths vary as to where the unborn babies end up.

It's very simple for atheists, we just die, like Jews apparently do and like all other living things. Seems like no one worries about the dead animals, except maybe some dogs that they were attached to.

I was raised Catholic and was told the unborn babies are in purgatory.


limbo
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I hold to the Orthodox view of original sin, i.e. the unborn inherit the consequences of sin (mortality and death) but are not considered guilty. In Christian eschatology, the immediate afterlife is just a temporary waiting place and we all await bodily resurrection at Christ's return. God is gracious and merciful; you can entrust your children to God.
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Anonymous wrote:OP, I am a Christian and here is how I view it:

In heaven/ the afterlife, there are no ages. Time is an earthly concept. It is our soul and spirit that is conceived by God in the womb and that is what remains in all eternity.

I do believe that we will meet loved ones in Heaven but they will not have ages (e.g. be unborn children) and neither will we.


Did you make up that belief yourself or is that part of some religion?


This is more or less the Christian philosophy.


That is a gnostic concept rooted in Platonic dualism. Some Christians might believe this, but the early church didn't. What Christians believe is in our creed: "We look for the resurrection of the dead and the life of the world to come." We are the body of Christ, and will one day resurrected with Christ.
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Anonymous wrote:I hold to the Orthodox view of original sin, i.e. the unborn inherit the consequences of sin (mortality and death) but are not considered guilty. In Christian eschatology, the immediate afterlife is just a temporary waiting place and we all await bodily resurrection at Christ's return. God is gracious and merciful; you can entrust your children to God.


Someone skipped the Old Testament...
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Anonymous wrote:Everybody will have a different answer. It depends in part on religion and upbringing. I’m Jewish so I was raised that there is no afterlife. I think believing in one can be very comforting though. I suggest talking to your clergy.


I didn't realize that. I'm not necessarily looking for a definitive answer, but just what others believe. I have a hard time conceptualizing what it means to meet someone in an afterlife that you didn't really meet alive.


I am agnostic but feel that if there is an afterlife with souls that we would most likely be reincarnated to be around our family/the other souls we like to travel with through eternity. I also like the idea of children seeking to be born to their family. So I would wonder if unborn children would be fewer than the number of pregnancies because maybe it would be just one or two souls looking for a chance to rejoin you in the physical world. I think if you met your children in the afterlife you would feel a sense of love. However souls commune. Babies in the womb do start to recognize aspects of their mother as they develop. Also, mothers apparently carry some fetal cells for life (fetal microchimerism). I can see there being amazing possibilities for recognition.

I wish you peace of mind and the reunion you seek.


The Catholic Church would likely say that since the miscarriages hadn't been baptized, they would be in hell. Or maybe they just go nowhere. Don't know. Best for you to ask a clergy person of your particular faith, as faiths vary as to where the unborn babies end up.

It's very simple for atheists, we just die, like Jews apparently do and like all other living things. Seems like no one worries about the dead animals, except maybe some dogs that they were attached to.

I was raised Catholic and was told the unborn babies are in purgatory.


limbo


Didn't the Church do away with Limbo?
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They are probably been reincarnated as an advanced species living in a very beautiful and unpolluted planet.
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Anonymous wrote:They are probably been reincarnated as an advanced species living in a very beautiful and unpolluted planet.


If the species is truly advanced, I bet there is no religion.
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Anonymous wrote:They are probably been reincarnated as an advanced species living in a very beautiful and unpolluted planet.


If the species is truly advanced, I bet there is no religion.


A reincarnated species has no religion?
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You are all in the ground together.
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Anonymous wrote:I hold to the Orthodox view of original sin, i.e. the unborn inherit the consequences of sin (mortality and death) but are not considered guilty. In Christian eschatology, the immediate afterlife is just a temporary waiting place and we all await bodily resurrection at Christ's return. God is gracious and merciful; you can entrust your children to God.


Someone skipped the Old Testament...


The Old Testament was written by people struggling to understand who God is. God's nature is revealed to us in Christ, who is the fulfillment of the law and prophecies. I highly recommend the book "A More Christlike God" By Brad Jersak.
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Anonymous wrote:Everybody will have a different answer. It depends in part on religion and upbringing. I’m Jewish so I was raised that there is no afterlife. I think believing in one can be very comforting though. I suggest talking to your clergy.


I didn't realize that. I'm not necessarily looking for a definitive answer, but just what others believe. I have a hard time conceptualizing what it means to meet someone in an afterlife that you didn't really meet alive.


I am agnostic but feel that if there is an afterlife with souls that we would most likely be reincarnated to be around our family/the other souls we like to travel with through eternity. I also like the idea of children seeking to be born to their family. So I would wonder if unborn children would be fewer than the number of pregnancies because maybe it would be just one or two souls looking for a chance to rejoin you in the physical world. I think if you met your children in the afterlife you would feel a sense of love. However souls commune. Babies in the womb do start to recognize aspects of their mother as they develop. Also, mothers apparently carry some fetal cells for life (fetal microchimerism). I can see there being amazing possibilities for recognition.

I wish you peace of mind and the reunion you seek.


The Catholic Church would likely say that since the miscarriages hadn't been baptized, they would be in hell. Or maybe they just go nowhere. Don't know. Best for you to ask a clergy person of your particular faith, as faiths vary as to where the unborn babies end up.

It's very simple for atheists, we just die, like Jews apparently do and like all other living things. Seems like no one worries about the dead animals, except maybe some dogs that they were attached to.

I was raised Catholic and was told the unborn babies are in purgatory.


limbo


St Thomas said a fetus is not a baby until quickening with is 40 days for females and 90 days for males. So there is no soul to meet until that time. I don't think he got the timing right but I do thing there is a point a fetus has a soul.

A soul has salvation if it does not get baptized at no fault of their own. (Limbo was never official Catholic doctrine but was fun while it lasted)

I believe certain souls choose a short life, so they were alive as long as they wanted to be.

I also think this is purgatory and if we get it right we gain salvation (even without baptism, nod to my non Catholic friends) and if we don't we recycle through this world again to try to "get it right". Poor MAGA gonna be going through the cycle for a long time or perhaps they have been going through the cycle for a long time already.

They might be there or maybe they are on a new cycle but you should able to see them in whatever cycle they are currently in if you are in heaven or maybe you will need to do a new cycle. IDK.

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Anonymous wrote:I hold to the Orthodox view of original sin, i.e. the unborn inherit the consequences of sin (mortality and death) but are not considered guilty. In Christian eschatology, the immediate afterlife is just a temporary waiting place and we all await bodily resurrection at Christ's return. God is gracious and merciful; you can entrust your children to God.


You don't have to wait for the 2nd coming to go to heaven.
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Anonymous wrote:Estimates vary, but 10% to 20% of known pregnancies end in miscarriage before 20 weeks. The rate is higher when including very early losses that occur before a person knows they are pregnant.

Do all these unborn babies remain basically clumps of cells? Do they grow in heaven? Do they remain adolescents forever?

That would be more like hell to never be able to mature into an adult or have the experience of childhood and growing up.


A related question. For those who believe they will see their loved ones in heaven, what state will they be in? Will your mother be fit and beautiful in her 30s or will she be 85 with dementia and other ailments and unable to recognize you?


souls don't have bodies.
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Everybody will have a different answer. It depends in part on religion and upbringing. I’m Jewish so I was raised that there is no afterlife. I think believing in one can be very comforting though. I suggest talking to your clergy.


I didn't realize that. I'm not necessarily looking for a definitive answer, but just what others believe. I have a hard time conceptualizing what it means to meet someone in an afterlife that you didn't really meet alive.


I am agnostic but feel that if there is an afterlife with souls that we would most likely be reincarnated to be around our family/the other souls we like to travel with through eternity. I also like the idea of children seeking to be born to their family. So I would wonder if unborn children would be fewer than the number of pregnancies because maybe it would be just one or two souls looking for a chance to rejoin you in the physical world. I think if you met your children in the afterlife you would feel a sense of love. However souls commune. Babies in the womb do start to recognize aspects of their mother as they develop. Also, mothers apparently carry some fetal cells for life (fetal microchimerism). I can see there being amazing possibilities for recognition.

I wish you peace of mind and the reunion you seek.


The Catholic Church would likely say that since the miscarriages hadn't been baptized, they would be in hell. Or maybe they just go nowhere. Don't know. Best for you to ask a clergy person of your particular faith, as faiths vary as to where the unborn babies end up.

It's very simple for atheists, we just die, like Jews apparently do and like all other living things. Seems like no one worries about the dead animals, except maybe some dogs that they were attached to.

They would be in limbo.

Hope and belief are strong things. If this happened to me, I would hope to see them in the afterlife.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Everybody will have a different answer. It depends in part on religion and upbringing. I’m Jewish so I was raised that there is no afterlife. I think believing in one can be very comforting though. I suggest talking to your clergy.


I didn't realize that. I'm not necessarily looking for a definitive answer, but just what others believe. I have a hard time conceptualizing what it means to meet someone in an afterlife that you didn't really meet alive.


I am agnostic but feel that if there is an afterlife with souls that we would most likely be reincarnated to be around our family/the other souls we like to travel with through eternity. I also like the idea of children seeking to be born to their family. So I would wonder if unborn children would be fewer than the number of pregnancies because maybe it would be just one or two souls looking for a chance to rejoin you in the physical world. I think if you met your children in the afterlife you would feel a sense of love. However souls commune. Babies in the womb do start to recognize aspects of their mother as they develop. Also, mothers apparently carry some fetal cells for life (fetal microchimerism). I can see there being amazing possibilities for recognition.

I wish you peace of mind and the reunion you seek.


The Catholic Church would likely say that since the miscarriages hadn't been baptized, they would be in hell. Or maybe they just go nowhere. Don't know. Best for you to ask a clergy person of your particular faith, as faiths vary as to where the unborn babies end up.

It's very simple for atheists, we just die, like Jews apparently do and like all other living things. Seems like no one worries about the dead animals, except maybe some dogs that they were attached to.

I was raised Catholic and was told the unborn babies are in purgatory.


limbo


St Thomas said a fetus is not a baby until quickening with is 40 days for females and 90 days for males. So there is no soul to meet until that time. I don't think he got the timing right but I do thing there is a point a fetus has a soul.

A soul has salvation if it does not get baptized at no fault of their own. (Limbo was never official Catholic doctrine but was fun while it lasted)

I believe certain souls choose a short life, so they were alive as long as they wanted to be.

I also think this is purgatory and if we get it right we gain salvation (even without baptism, nod to my non Catholic friends) and if we don't we recycle through this world again to try to "get it right". Poor MAGA gonna be going through the cycle for a long time or perhaps they have been going through the cycle for a long time already.

They might be there or maybe they are on a new cycle but you should able to see them in whatever cycle they are currently in if you are in heaven or maybe you will need to do a new cycle. IDK.


How would St Thomas know this? I swear, religions is mostly made up of these old men who make stuff up to suit their purpose.

And I say this as a long time Christian.
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